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Steel frames made in England and with some nice up to date touches
Pretty bikes.
Nice to see them doing something a bit different with the new management - last time I think they attempted anything like this was the TV Series of bikes which were brilliant but quite short lived.
Mmm, those look rather nice.
They look really nice, but my first reaction was that they'd weigh a ton.
Claimed weight looks good for a steel frame
They look really nice, but my first reaction was that they’d weigh a ton.
I used to have a 3-speed Pashley Roadster. It was really nice to ride (if somewhat hard work on the hills), and weighed only slightly more than my house.
Wish I still had that bike. Carried a 25kg sack of potatoes draped over the rear rack once... certainly made the handling "interesting"
Nice to see a bit of progression from a traditional British business, and at not completely outrageous prices. I'd have one of them if they ride as well as they look.
They are very pretty bikes. I agree with tthew, great to see the company tackling industry issues head on through progression and finding a niche.
They may weigh a bit, but as a Vagabond rider, it would not worry me.
I expect to see a lot of these about in the next year or 2, they look great.
They are very pretty bikes. I agree with tthew, great to see the company tackling industry issues head on through progression and finding a niche.
Pashley have found niches to fill long before now!
They look really nice. Remind me of the (now discontinued I think?) Ribble CGR 725.
Hang on, I never said anything about them filling a niche. I like them true enough, but there's not much that's radical here!
That looks like a nice machine for eating up the miles.
Oh boy....I am about to rebuild my Arkose with GRX for a 500 mile trip later in the year....but this looks MINT!! Ticks all the boxes.....
I wonder if they do CTW.....?
....oh Merde....they do CTW.....
I expect to see a lot of these about in the next year or 2
I was thinking the opposite; lovely looking bikes but ultimately riders who spend x thousands on bikes aren't going to instantly think of pashley as a go-to for a new road or gravel bike so it's going to take some marketing getting that message out there and translating that to sales. Its a tough competitive market too. Good luck to them though
They do look proper nice them. I'm just happy they've finally included the geometry chart for these new bikes.
It's a looks a lovely blend of the traditional (Reynolds steel tubing) and the modern (UDH, and 3D printed lugs) if I hadn't bought a new gravel bike last year then I would definitely be looking at the GRX based model.
lovely looking bikes but ultimately riders who spend x thousands on bikes aren’t going to instantly think of pashley as a go-to for a new road or gravel bike so it’s going to take some marketing getting that message out there and translating that to sales.
I dunno, marketing is pretty easy these days... someone on a forum has posted a link to a cycling website, a few people are already going "oooooh" and it hasn't cost them a penny...
I assume they'll go down the traditional route as well and get them in bike shop windows!
It's a brand with loads of heritage, not some new thing no-ones heard of before. I'd certainly be giving them serious consideration if I were in the market for a new bike now, just based on that CW article!
I'm working on getting one in to test!
I reckon those will be competing with the likes of Fairlight and Condor for steel bike conoseur's attention.
not right now but in years to come this is the sort of thing I think I'm going to want as a "one bike solution" to Road and Gravel.
I especially like that there appear to be barnacles on both the Roadfinder and Roadfinder X and they're using UDH.
I think they've taken a good look at the market and the kind of things on various people's wishlists before jumping in. The only thing that might be divisive for some is the T47 BB perhaps(?)
I could see me on one of those, very middle aged man. That's a compliment.
I was thinking the opposite;
"A lot", relatively speaking - they're good value, look well designed, UK made and it's appealling to riders who generally do some hunting about before buying. Plus it's covering that popular all-road to gravel 'lite' range.
Gravel version needs to be the off-road finder surely
I reckon those will be competing with the likes of Fairlight and Condor for steel bike conoseur’s attention.
I agree but they need to also get the reviews the Secan and Strael got. They do look really good. Option for custom geometry as well at a good price? I wondered what the ex Ribble CEO Andy Smallman was going to do at Pashley. Seems really switched on from his time at Ribble and Boardman.bikes.
Some nice looking bikes.
Lol at the marketing comment
stooge cycles is a man in a shed (in the best way), no marketing just word of mouth…and they manage to sell out of every run they’ve produced.
I don't think a set of dropouts have ever made me look and think "wow":
Really nice details. Making Fairlight look a bit amateur - especially the beer can headtube and the way they insist on tacking cables/hose to the downtube.
A bit harsh on Fairlight! Think it's just a design choice thing that's perfectly valid - I would much prefer external cable routing and fairlight do it very thoughtfully, along with many other features of their frames.
Back to these Pahsleys: I really like the look of them, and great they are manufactured in the UK. Pricing is reasonable too, and the specs are OK as well. Would still need to know the exact frame weight if I was forking out £1595 on a frameset though - i couldn't see it in the frameset spec? I also really like the look of the Prospero and Pathfinder, nice practical looking bikes perfect for town and utility use. Very tempted for a C2W option!
Like Faustus I was just having a look at the Prospero Equipped, looks like an ideal commuter bike, except just look at the ridiculous, nay dangerous position of the front light totally hidden from cars waiting to come out of T junctions by the front wheel!
I'm genuinely staggered by the design of this.
Yeah - i'd mount that light at the front of the rack somehow...plus, it's pointing at the sky! 🙂 The 'equipped' builds with colour matching do look nice though...
The Roadfinder does look great.
The Prospero possibly even nicer? It's not a million miles away from my current commuter (Charge Plug gravel fixie with big tires, front and rear rack and full guards), but nicer..... It'd be an expensive upgrade but I can definitely see it being something I'd treat myself to on the C2W scheme and actually ride it to work!
I'd like to be tempted by the Roadfinder too, but Cinelli just released this ............
Steel
Italian
Headshock
Those colour options
I almost don't care that the frame price is considerably more than some brand Titanium full bikes.
just look at the ridiculous, nay dangerous position of the front light totally hidden from cars waiting to come out of T junctions by the front wheel!
It's weirdly common, Fairlight do the same with the rear light mounting to a 3D printed bracket on the drive side of the rear axle. It makes no sense.
Thankfully it's not difficult to make an out-front mount for most racks, it's what I've done on my Charge.
A bit harsh on Fairlight! Think it’s just a design choice thing that’s perfectly valid – I would much prefer external cable routing and fairlight do it very thoughtfully, along with many other features of their frames.
Not entirely unwarranted though.
There's something really jarring about the huge headtube and undersized top tube. I presume there must be a reason behind it, does it offset the presumably compliant top tube to maintain torsional rigidity? Given they've used custom chain stays I'd have thought they could have used a tapered top tube to achieve the same?
I reckon those will be competing with the likes of Fairlight and Condor for steel bike conoseur’s attention.
Be interesting to see / read some reviews of them as 'serious' bikes. They're 531 so it almost goes without saying that they'll ride nicely. But I'm not sure they'd stack up against a Strael which really is filling the niche for Esoteric Audaxers or Super Acciaio which is a Sunday best racing bike. I'm prejudging them as more road bikes for people who don't like road bikes. Perfect for a 100k Audax, maybe not the bike you'd pick for 200+ or a brisk club run though?
I’m prejudging them as more road bikes for people who don’t like road bikes. Perfect for a 100k Audax, maybe not the bike you’d pick for 200+ or a brisk club run though?
Don't see why not tbh. Geometry is good, tubeset seems ideal. I was looking at it as an ideal long distance road bike - 200-600k or multi-day lightweight touring, that kind of thing. Internal or external cables don't bother me on a bike like this tbh.
There’s something really jarring about the huge headtube and undersized top tube. I presume there must be a reason behind it, does it offset the presumably compliant top tube to maintain torsional rigidity?
A 50mm OD HT will be crazy stiff but even a standard head tube is quite short Vs the OD and they're all fairly thick-walled. It's mostly the 3 main frame tubes spec that influence the torsional rigidity felt when riding. The Pashley has an OS seat tube which is something I've had made in a similar use 853 frame before, it felt good to pedal.
These look really nice, interesting that the base cost isn't that far off a CdF 50 with a similar spec and Taiwanese frame?
I thought there was a school of thought that said for most UK riding, given state of the roads etc. that a gravel bike was probably the thing, even with road gearing?
Like the seat tube 3D printed lug. Slightly slack geometry for road though.... But Condor are local to me and make their road bike in a fixed variant. A few club mates have been very happy with their Fairlights. Nothing wrong with steel at all; Geometry makes the handling, material the weight, tube diameter the stiffness. I always like riding my steel Paddy Wagon commuter, and my titanium bikes. But I race carbon.
Good luck to them.
@ratherbeintobago - yep, the Kite. It's now a semi-custom Ti option (oooh) but the steel one was gorgeous. Singular were ahead of the game (again) on that.
I also noticed there's a port for either a front mech or a dropper on the Pashley, by the way. Nice to have that.
Last pashley I owned was a 24mhz - but I'd happily buy that new pathfinder, I think they look great and well spaced for the price.
Slightly slack geometry for road though
Fork offset helps, the trail is spot on for indended use I'd say - a bit shorter trail than current / average gravel trends. Good combo to create a bit more front-centre for bigger tyres and guards.
There’s something really jarring about the huge headtube and undersized top tube. I presume there must be a reason behind it, does it offset the presumably compliant top tube to maintain torsional rigidity? Given they’ve used custom chain stays I’d have thought they could have used a tapered top tube to achieve the same?
I don't think it brings much to the party structurally TBH, it may just be down to off the peg headtubes available from Reynolds?
But My Guess is that it's a bit of future-proofing for routing (I can't fully make out cable routing in the images) it's possibly just so the frame can accommodate integrated routing through the upper headset, this seems to be the way the Road and Gravel frames are generally heading now because:
1 it looks cleaner
2 it is actually easier/cheaper to manufacture requiring fewer bosses/ports/stops on the frame itself (Discuss).
3 Presumably more 'premium' punters will now be going wireless for their gears so you only really need to think about brake lines (and IF using current Di2 wires in the Chainstay/seattube)...
But Yeah, cables and hoses?
For clarity I was talking about the headtube on the Strael not the Roadfinder. The Roadfinder looks good, the Strale is the one with a great big beercan sized headtube and a skinny top tube It just sticks out as odd when the rest of the frame is so nice.
That and the cable routing. The traditional stops on the headtube are great for avoiding paint rub. But with electronic shifting being so popular maybe they should have been something modular / threaded in or 3D print them onto a headset cup even. I'm being picky, but for £1400 if feels like and afterthought. The Sonder I've ordered is a bit of a mess as well but ticked some other boxes.
The Strael has virtually the same (maybe even the same) head tube as the Roadfinder - both 44mm bore, 46 and a bit in the middle and 48mm at the very ends. Here is an offcut from one.
The Strael top tube just looks tiny in comparison because it is a 25.4mm tube squashed oval to 30 wide and 20 deep. The Pashley TT is round and a bit bigger diameter so looks more balanced against the HT.