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Rango?

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Seat tube / top tube joint doesnt quite match between the two but there are loads of similar ones.

why internal cabling though on the chainstay ? Fixing a problem that doesn't actually exist IMO

Secret geometry?

Argh, that S36 is fugly:

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as suspected, they had some new tooling bills to pay for.

Classic OO/PX tactic when they need to release cash.

S36 pricing looks crap compared to an Alu YT Tues

S36 pricing looks crap compared to an Alu YT Tues

Give it 2 or 3 days...the price will fall 😀

Seat Tube Angle (degrees) = 70.8

Measures up at about 80° 😯

I like the look of the rango, but the Stache has shorter chaistays, more reach and isn't that much more expensive either.

Now if On-One could stick to what they were good at and make a 45629+ which was a stache in steel and dirt cheap, I'd be all over it.

Measures up at about 80°

Needs a headtube gusset

OIC, the geometry is on the splash page for the dh bike just not on the actual order/details page.

BoardinBob - Member

S36 pricing looks crap compared to an Alu YT Tues

That's not the actual price 😆

Is it just be who's ended up saying/thinking

Rango

in a ScoobyDo voice?

And now I can't stop doing it.

S36 pricing looks crap compared to an Alu YT Tues

But why would someone buy one of the best-regarded DH bikes on the market when they can pay more for an unproven, aesthetically challenging lump from a company with a questionable reputation for customer service and employee rights?

Geometry looks good though.

😀

Is it just me

It was

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Argh, that S36 is fugly:

It certainly doesn't pass the "if it looks right it is right" test!

Ha ha haa haaa!

E-stay hard tail ffs, it's the 80's all over again. Most of them cracked

I'll get flamed for saying so but I think both look ok. I do agree in part with some of the comments above though.

Moving stock on to focus on new models is normal business surely? If anything it looks like OO have moved on from their previous approach of selling of OEM products and trying to be a one stop shop and have started to focus more on selling bikes again, which they used to do very well.

Their constant sales etc are terrible but by the same token I get a near daily email from CRC selling the same tat they couldn't shift in their previous sale.

Not saying OO are great as I've had mixed experiences, but they do seem to receive a lot of criticism.

There is still a fundamental issue with all these bikes.

You have to deal with OnOne, their quality control and possibly warranty 'department'.

For £1800, I would be looking elsewhere.

[quote=superstu ]If anything it looks like OO have moved on from their previous approach of selling of OEM products and trying to be a one stop shop and have started to focus more on selling bikes again, which they used to do very well.Agree. They used to have a very good reputation and basically trashed it with various shenanigans. Concentrating on doing a few things well might resolve that.

I quite like the S36, maybe Brexit combined with the 'sales' will tip the balance in their favour.

To be fair to On-one, they do tend to make decent riding bikes. It's the service and QC that lets them down.

I like the fact they have the fork travel for the Rango frame 130-160mm but have spec'd it with a 120mm fork!!

Other than that it's quite nice.

as suspected, they had some new tooling bills to pay for

what tools do you need to turn from page 56 to 57 of the Big Chinese OEM Bike Factory Corporation catalogue?

[quote=crashtestmonkey ]as suspected, they had some new tooling bills to pay for
what tools do you need to turn from page 56 to 57 of the Big Chinese OEM Bike Factory Corporation catalogue?

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wwaswas - Member

Is it just be who's ended up saying/thinking

Rango

in a ScoobyDo voice?

And now I can't stop doing it.

I've ended up doing it to the theme tune from Django Unchained. And weirdly not the themetune to Rango.

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Agree. They used to have a very good reputation and basically trashed it with various shenanigans. Concentrating on doing a few things well might resolve that.

As long as one of the few things is QA and another is customer service. Going by this and a couple of other forums, they misplaced those departments.

S36 Ugliest bike I've ever seen..
Thought this when I saw it last week on an email.

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Interesting wheel selection.

The DH thing is a monstrosity. The Rango's interesting. If they could provide some decent (ie accurate and informative) info on it and drop the price to something more reasonable for a catalogue frame I'd quite probably buy one

@Woodster, what's going on with that Titus? It's bloody brilliant. I

what tools do you need to turn from page 56 to 57 of the Big Chinese OEM Bike Factory Corporation catalogue?

Serious question - do PX/OO have a "designer" in house since Brant Richards left?

Using the Stache 5 colour too 🙂

@Woodster, what's going on with that Titus? It's bloody brilliant. I

It's from the Instagram post in the first link. It's the new el Viajero apparently and googling suggests it may be out soon.

Can't imagine the 4 spokes will stay. I still remember how heavy my Spesh tri-spoke was.

Man, they make some awful looking bikes. 😯

I'm amazed anyone would consider buying anything of value from DFS. Yes, all brands occasionally have quality control issues. Yes, all online retailers occasionally mess up and make a hash of a customer service issue, but boy do DFS go the extra mile in being completely pants. In my case, seemingly unable to understand a really simple piece of consumer and contact law. Brrrrrrrrr.... Shudders. Never again.

woodster - Member

Can't imagine the 4 spokes will stay. I still remember how heavy my Spesh tri-spoke was.

I don't care how heavy they are, I want them!

Can't believe they're trying to revitalise Titus though after basically destroying the brand over the last couple of years. I suppose because Tomac took his ball back.

Serious question - do PX/OO have a "designer" in house since Brant Richards left?

As if anyone would admit to those paint jobs.

Serious question - do PX/OO have a "designer" in house since Brant Richards left?

which aliexpress seller is this from?

http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/FROOSPCKN/on-one-space-chicken-650--700c-carbon-gravel-frameset

See, how can this be offered at "40% off" when it's never been on sale at the supposed RRP?

http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/FROORAN27/on-one-rango-275-plus-or-29er-carbon-mountain-bike-frame

Is that not against the law?

I like the 'Medarta steel' on the back of the seat tube. 🙂

I always wish I'd bought an On-One Inbred with horizontal dropouts when they sold them.

That Rango looks just like this rebranded with an on-one sticker
https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32659910925.html

Did Tomac get his ball back then?

Like that space chicken. Fancy a stealth reverb on my commuter 😮

scotroutes - Member
See, how can this be offered at "40% off" when it's never been on sale at the supposed RRP?

http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/FROORAN27/on-one-rango-275-plus-or-29er-carbon-mountain-bike-frame

Is that not against the law?

In fairness I think it was quietly added to the website before Christmas for about the shown "RRP"...

Not sure what stock levels were given at the time...

I was looking at that Rango recently and saw that you can get the very same frame from China with forks from another seller. there are two or three suppliers that seem to copy each other.One was marketed by a Chinese brand and the person behind it may be called Richard or a similar western name but basically it was cheaper to import it with the fork than it was was to get from on one without the fork and you don't end up with the on one logo on the frame either

Yup, the Rango frame was on sale for a fair while for a frankly hilarious £999.

New Titus is up

http://www.on-one.co.uk/c/q/bikes/mountain-bikes/titus-el-viajero-gravity-trail

I don't care how heavy they are, I want them!

I think nextie make them, they certainly did fat bike wheels. I wonder if they can bond any rim to a tri-spoke?

130mm rear / 160mm front is a bold move. Certainly wouldn't be for me.

130mm rear / 160mm front is a bold move.

Even bolder is not clearly stating whether it has 130 or 140mm travel, the listing for the full bike lists both.

The colour and the price put me off more than the travel diff.

I do like the Ti45650b though. Could be a bike for life that.

The colour and the price put me off more than the travel diff.

I do like the Ti45650b though. Could be a bike for life that.

We all know that's not the "real" price.

Was really keen for a Ti45650b (discounted of course) until I saw that the 20" large has a reach of 407mm. Oh dear.

Even bolder is not clearly stating whether it has 130 or 140mm travel, the listing for the full bike lists both.

Good spot.

And putting "xxx" for the reach and stack figures. It's like a lucky dip.

The colour and the price put me off more than the travel diff.

The colour won't change but the price certainly will.

Was really keen for a Ti45650b (discounted of course) until I saw that the 20" large has a reach of 407mm. Oh dear.

I saw that, can only assume they got a batch of cheap top tubes from 10 years ago.

The colour won't change but the price certainly will.

not enough for me to buy a bike from Planet X I don't think

I don't think the price will change until March. I got an email the other week stating they would not change prices in Feb 'so you can buy with confidence'. Probably more due to trading standards, something has to be on sale for x time to allow it to be used as the 'was' price. The prices will change soon enough.

This seems like a complete and utter bargain. What I am I missing?

[list][*]codeine 29er[/*]
[*]reverb[/*]
[*]sektor fork[/*]
[*]monarch rear shock[/*][/list]

[url= http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/ZX121COD29/on-one-codeine-29er-frame,-fork,-rear-shock-and-seatpost-bundle ]http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/ZX121COD29/on-one-codeine-29er-frame,-fork,-rear-shock-and-seatpost-bundle[/url]

Is it only available in small and grey?

"I was looking at that Rango recently and saw that you can get the very same frame from China with forks from another seller."

To be fair they are not identical, geometry is slightly different (for all On-One's geometry can be trusted), but the Rango has a much more sensible 31.6 seat post size than the 27.2 on the chiner.

I'd actually be quite tempted by one if they didn't muck their pricing around so much, you could be sure of geometry and when they say they spec a certain group set that it actually came with that proper group set.

Those China Rango's aren't, plain and simple. There's several revisions worth of development in that frame that's all us. Sure you can buy one that looks similar, though not in any sense of the word identical, same as you can with chinarellos. The geometry, layup, frame specs another bits and bobs are all us.

Re designers we work with a few well known contractors and we do some dev in house.

I agree with you about the S36, it's fugly, but it rides remarkably well and does what it says on the tin.

I'll edit the Titus content, it is 130mm rear on both bikes. The Gravity Trail version does actually eat stuff up, if you ride front weighted its a really capable bike.

I'll edit the Titus content, it is 130mm rear on both bikes.

STW doing PX's proof reading again. 😆

They should just post any new content here first for proof reading and give some freebies to STW to give away in return.

Revelation on a plus size as well?
Anyone know about these?
Looking for something lighter than the typical Yari or Pike.
Max

@ sq225917

Ti 29er looks great until you look at ett and reach - why so short?

Like the look of the 45650b Ti very much. The single thing putting off very serious enquiry is On One's unpredictable pricing model.

This seems like a complete and utter bargain. What I am I missing?

codeine 29er
reverb
sektor fork
monarch rear shock

http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/ZX121COD29/on-one-codeine-29er-frame,-fork,-rear-shock-and-seatpost-bundle

Is it only available in small and grey?

Goes into my basket as large grey for £803 so just a[s]nother[/s] typo in the advert...

This seems like a complete and utter bargain. What I am I missing?

?codeine 29er
?reverb
?sektor fork
?monarch rear shock

Not sure it's a huge bargain TBF as the post goes for less than £200 and forks are bottom of the range Sektors leaving £400ish for the frame?

I think if your in the market for that type of bike and your comparing it against what else is out there then its decent value. If you look at it as though you can build it up for what 13-1500 then you cant buy much better off the shelf

Clink, it's more XC geometry than trail, figure it with a 70/80mm stem. It's only 10mm off a pure race XC in reach.

Ben_h, looking like RRP for the frame is 999, we'll probably do a launch date offer at 899 for the first ten frames. The frames aren't up on their own yet.

Clink, it's more XC geometry than trail, figure it with a 70/80mm stem. It's only 10mm off a pure race XC in reach.

That would seem to make sense however a Trek Superfly is a xc bike and it has much longer reach and ett...

Yes but Trek were the company that drove 29ers to the masses and have put huge effort into developing great bikes. On-one haven't and you get what you paid for.

I'm no on one apologist but hard to argue at that codeine deal for £800 surely? Yes only sektors but don't think you'd see change on them for less than £300, reverb similarly is at least £200 leaving frame and shock for £300? I'd be tempted if I was in the market.

dragon - Member

Yes but Trek were the company that drove 29ers to the masses and have put huge effort into developing great bikes. On-one haven't and you get what you paid for.

That's a bit harsh. O-O have been doing 29ers a very long time. They were probably one of the first?

It's just that like most of their bikes the Fireline which was one thought slack for a 29er at a time when 120mm 29er forks were a rarity, is now sort of average.

TBH they should cut their losses on some lines and update the whole range, go back to smaller batches of frames that people really want. Part of what made them good as a small company was being able to get a 29er frame built and on sale long before they caught on. But they've not inovated in years.

Bikes like the fireline really deserve to be the default answer to the perennial "what hardtail" question, but it's just not kept up with the competition. 2deg off the HA, a degree on the SA, and 50mm on the top tube (hey, maybe even plus tyres) and I bet you'd not be able to move for them at trail centers.

Yes but Trek were the company that drove 29ers to the masses and have put huge effort into developing great bikes. On-one haven't and you get what you paid for.

I'd imagine On-One were doing 29ers long before they appeared on Treks radar.

[quote=cp ]

Yes but Trek were the company that drove 29ers to the masses and have put huge effort into developing great bikes. On-one haven't and you get what you paid for.

I think the point is xc 29er geo evolved, which Trek were at the forefront of. On one seem to be doing trying to do too many things; perhaps they be better getting back to basics.

I honestly am not sticking up for planet x , as i've first hand experience of their sales and quality control, But I gotta say all you people bitching about the bikes, come on now. If you've ridden them fair enough but I bet you haven't. I purchased a 456evo11 a couple of years ago. Had a couple of issues, easily sorted but never should of happened.put a set of lyrik rc2l,with XT drive train and brakes, good wheels and tyres still got it now. It's a really good bike. Was looking for a softtail for a while, got put off buying used, thought about a new complete bike but bikes I was looking at were fitted with sram which I didn't want. Didn't want another ON ONE after the probs with quality control and customer services, but came across Codeine 650b frame,shock fork kit for £750, After talking to planet x sales and stipulating certain things I purchased one, then it got extremely stressful, already was a bit nervous as hardly any reviews ,more chat on forums, saying can't climb, but someone jumped in an said best climbing bike he had . Plus planet x pissing me about, and their extremely inaccurate online site stock, ie I counted all codeine 650b bikes and frames in all colours and sizes, ended up with a figure of more than 300 with marzocchi shocks , but they couldn't put one on my frame! I wasn't impressed in the least, but in end I got a monarch rc3 and the forks were the 2016 model fit4 so a good deal.I fitted xt drive train, xt785 brakes by choice,very good wheelsets and tyres. The time came , honestly the bike climbs so well, better than i dared to hope for, as good as my hardtail which climbs really . I'm talking about out of seat with no Bob, and does downhill like a Downhill bike. It made up for all the stress . So while I'm not a big fan of planet x,On One know how to build a bike, and if you catch them at the right time you can get a really good deal. So when you start reading reviews of on one bikes riding crap and falling apart then slag them off , but til then give them a chance. Be fair.

I'm no on one apologist but hard to argue at that codeine deal for £800 surely? Yes only sektors but don't think you'd see change on them for less than £300, reverb similarly is at least £200 leaving frame and shock for £300? I'd be tempted if I was in the market.

Not arguing but the post can be had for less than £200 and the forks are the more basic version of the basic ones I had and I can't imagine would sell for more than £200ish. Leaves £400 for an old frame with outdated geometry and features. Not a bad deal but also no real bargain.

til then give them a chance. Be fair.

Nope,