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Just gone to plan a local ride for tomorrow on my Outdoor Active app, using the local OS map available through the premium subscription. It seems various (but not all) footpaths in Calderdale are now overlaid with tiny No Cycling signs, and I can’t find a setting to remove them. The Hardcastle Crags NT woodland has such a rash of them when you zoom in, it looks like it’s got chickenpox.
I’m guessing this is for the benefit of those who might not be aware of how footpaths and bridleways are differently marked on an OS map, or indeed who may and may not use them. Maybe it’s the mood I’m in, but it does feel like an unnecessarily political move on the part of Outdoor Active, given the on-going conversation about the not-fit-for-purpose ROW classification system trail users in England and Wales are continuing to have to muddle along with.
Can anyone shed any light?
(Before the peanut gallery pipes up, tomorrow’s ride is a gravel/public road route, so don’t start! 😉)
Got a location for me to look at on the OS Maps system?
Doeseit say no cycling or no no cycling?
So many people use the wrong signage
Not doing that on OutdoorActive on my mobile, in any of their map layers (including OS)...
@DickBarton, yep, have a look at the Hardcastle Crags NT property, a mile north of Hebden Bridge, flanking Hebden Water. The white circular, red bordered signs (which I take to mean ‘no doing of this’ as per the Highway Code), overlay certain footpaths when you’re using the ‘ride’ planning tool. As in, not in the general map.
Os maps app doesn't show it there on any of the maps or overlays for me.
Nothing in the os maps app
They’re not on the base OS map. But when you open up the ride planning tool in the Hebden Bridge area, up they pop over various footpaths in the area.
Yes, I can see them on the OA website in that area (after selecting Cycling or Mountainbiking as activities.
None on my local maps here in Scotland 😉
It’s not OS maps per se, I suspect. It seems to be something that’s been added to the Outdoor Active premium ride planning tool, which uses the OS map. But only in my local area. <br /><br />I’ll check with the local ride lot in the pub tonight. Maybe it’s just me 😳
Moving to Scotland looking more and more attractive.
For quite a while cheeky riding around here (same area as OP is talking about) was not just tolerated, it was embraced. Now everywhere is littered with physical no cycling signs on trails with a mismatch between historic use and status (eg packhorse trails)… some of which are pretty bonkers (bigger than road signs).
Not seen the digital equivalent yet.
Just ignore it and ride at quiet times, it's not like its enforceable.
I don't use OS mapping, so I'm alright to ride anywhere.
Just get the Os maps app and ditch outdoor active. Job done
I tend to ignore most of them, I'm the one who gives other cyclists a bad name yes I've heard it all, if there is peds I don't fly past them at breakneck speeds I slow right down and say excuse me and pass gently and no ones ever given me jip so far. The only time I have gotten beef is when using public footpaths that run through or along farms where I'm easily spotted by the "Get aurf moi land" types, had one who instead of letting me wheel my bike or carry it to the road 100m away, made me ride all the back 2 miles along the footpath "back to where I came from".
If I had to only use public bridleways around here I'd get nowhere, A: Because most off road routes are all public footpaths so I'd be better off with a road bike as I'd be spending most of my time on the roads and B: Because there is a massive equestrian following near me and literally all public bridleways are unusuable for anyone but horses from October to May cause they're just battered and churned up bogs.
made me ride all the back 2 miles along the footpath “back to where I came from”.
Interested to know whether a landowner can force someone to do that?
Just get the Os maps app and ditch outdoor active. Job done
See the PSA thread, 50% off today, so £14.50 for anual membership, bloody bargain!
Interested to know whether a landowner can force someone to do that?
Legally, almost certainly not. Just offer a token sum of money (50p?) for any possibly "damage" you may have done to the trail surface and take photos of trail surface, just in case it ever gets to (civil) court*.
Of course, aggrieved land owners may also use other illegal methods of persuading you to leave their land...
*Assumes a "simply" footpath in England or Wales, and not something with more specific regulation (eg SSSI or local bylaws)
I've finally found these;
And this, which has been puzzling me. I'm none the much wiser. I thought it may indicate a stile, but it's not too specific 
That's ok then, it says closed for cyclist, not cyclists.
Unless you know that you're the one cyclist they're referring to, it should be fine 😁
Does it show the signs if you select walking as your activity?
I'd wager a fair number of walk-only people are ignorant of the access rules that have no effect on them - and hopefully some be-nice-say-hi riders have conditioned them that bikes are accepted 😉
Some may now have their minds changed once they find out what the rules actually are.
Legally, almost certainly not. Just offer a token sum of money (50p?) for any possibly "damage" you may have done to the trail surface and take photos of trail surface, just in case it ever gets to (civil) court*.
That would be an admission, and probably therefore a bad idea. IANAL.
So OS insists that their maps can’t be used as evidence of right of way but are now apparently the authority on where there is no right of way?
So OS insists that their maps can’t be used as evidence of right of way but are now apparently the authority on where there is no right of way?
Unless I am missing something its outdoor active who have decided to add this not OS.
The symbols dont seem to match OS.