New cranks Hope Evo...
 

  You don't need to be an 'investor' to invest in Singletrack: 6 days left: 95% of target - Find out more

[Closed] New cranks Hope Evo, XTR or zummit else

26 Posts
21 Users
0 Reactions
676 Views
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

I have come to the conclusion that my XTR m9000 cranks are bent, well, the chainring mounting 'arms' at two points are, from numerous rock/cranks interfaces.

Which is good, as the proprietary chainrings and annoying mounting method suck.

Replacements....

Those hope evo silver ones look great, but i'm not too fussy about looks.   new XTR are tasty but spendy, XT are the 'old' xtr design right?  55mm for boost spacing yes? slx?

want 170mm or possibly 165


 
Posted : 22/03/2020 9:15 am
Posts: 1866
Free Member
 

Can’t beat XT’s for weight and durability. I have some in 165mm too.

Can’t see why anyone would spend more, unless you’re looking for the Rolex of cranks.


 
Posted : 22/03/2020 10:19 am
Posts: 3783
Free Member
 

You can pick up xtr m9000 and xtr m9020 cranks on ebay in decent condition for about £75 to £100. But if you don't like the system then maybe look at hope.

Personally I can't see past xtr at that price, quality and weight.


 
Posted : 22/03/2020 10:20 am
 poah
Posts: 6494
Free Member
 

unless you are gram counting then XT/slx arms are the best value.


 
Posted : 22/03/2020 12:35 pm
Posts: 3783
Free Member
 

unless you are gram counting then XT/slx arms are the best value.

130 grams going by info on Google.

[url= https://i.postimg.cc/7LYFDD25/Shimano-XTR-M9000-mechanical-actual-weights-cranksets02.pn g" target="_blank">https://i.postimg.cc/7LYFDD25/Shimano-XTR-M9000-mechanical-actual-weights-cranksets02.pn g"/> [/img][/url]

[url= https://i.postimg.cc/QtKnxMxd/shimano-xt-crank-1-speed-fc-m8000-1-without-chainring-4.jp g" target="_blank">https://i.postimg.cc/QtKnxMxd/shimano-xt-crank-1-speed-fc-m8000-1-without-chainring-4.jp g"/> [/img][/url]


 
Posted : 22/03/2020 5:50 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

52 for boost unless you are running plus tyres in which case 55.


 
Posted : 22/03/2020 9:34 pm
Posts: 2053
Full Member
 

I'd go SLX - the Xt and xtr ones get rubbed to hell within a ride. SLX seems to stay looking good for a lot longer.


 
Posted : 22/03/2020 9:48 pm
Posts: 65918
Free Member
 

All my bikes have old XTR on them- they work great and they last forever. (though they're all from before they went to the asymetric boltholes and were just 104bcd). Only downside is I can't put a really little ring on them.

The Hopes are pretty much comparable to XT not to XTR- the arms are lighter because they're spiderless, but the weight difference in rings balances that out. They do look nice though.


 
Posted : 22/03/2020 11:00 pm
Posts: 3806
Free Member
 

Not sure about weight but the Raceface Turbines I’ve been running for the last 2.5 years have been pretty faultless. Cinch system been good, not that pricey and bling-ish.


 
Posted : 22/03/2020 11:07 pm
Posts: 4213
Free Member
 

Just got some of the new direct mount M9120 XTRs. They're bloody lovely. I've been running M970s for donkey's years, but the Q factor meant they wouldn't clear on my new frame. The faces are a smokey chrome, so shouldn't look too horrible when they scuff up (unlike the black XTs). Tool free preload adjustment too (similar to Raceface or the M970s).

The Hope cranks seem pretty pointless, even in EVO format. Heavy, expensive and a bit agricultural.

Money no object, I'd go with Cane Creek EEwings, but the cost difference is phenominal.


 
Posted : 23/03/2020 11:07 am
 StuE
Posts: 1672
Free Member
 

I have some older Raceface turbines 104bcd and they have been faultless in the couple of years I have had them,don't seem to scuff up like Shimano cranks


 
Posted : 23/03/2020 12:44 pm
Posts: 2086
Free Member
 

Does anyone put helitape (or invisiframe) on their new cranks to keep them looking nicer for longer?


 
Posted : 23/03/2020 1:21 pm
Posts: 3551
Full Member
 

rascal - Member
Not sure about weight but the Raceface Turbines I’ve been running for the last 2.5 years have been pretty faultless. Cinch system been good, not that pricey and bling-ish.

Hate to agree with @rascal but I really like my Turbine's as well. The Cinch system works well, I think they look nice and they seem pretty tough as well.


 
Posted : 23/03/2020 3:15 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Not the lightest but like my DMR AXE cranks. A good solid fixing to attach the crank arms together. Plus not expensive as not so in demand.


 
Posted : 23/03/2020 3:22 pm
Posts: 13771
Free Member
 

JonEdwards

The Hope cranks seem pretty pointless, even in EVO format. Heavy, expensive and a bit agricultural.

Evo ones are lighter than XT, about same weight as Raceface turbine. Not sure what you mean by agricultural, they're simple to install, self extracting, rock solid, and finish doesn't wear. The older models were a pain to install/remove, but the EVO totally solve that.

Not as light as XTR, but not as expensive either. I guess it depends on whether you like the look of them or not.


 
Posted : 23/03/2020 4:00 pm
Posts: 65918
Free Member
 

honourablegeorge
Member

Evo ones are lighter than XT

Because they're spiderless while XT aren't. Once you even out the extra weight of the chainring for the spiderless cranks, they're within about 10g of each other.


 
Posted : 23/03/2020 4:28 pm
Posts: 4213
Free Member
 

Evo ones are lighter than XT

Nope.
R2 Bike have some "on scales" shots Hope Evo crankarms only - 582g. XT M8100 crankarms only, 516g. XTR 9100 are 472g, so nearly 20% lighter

Hope cranks are £211 on CRC, I paid £235 for my XTRs a couple of weeks ago (also CRC), so not much different (although they seem to have gone up now).


 
Posted : 23/03/2020 5:18 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Had loads of sets over the years. Can't remember a set of cranks that "didn't work". I'm sure the super gifted among you can detect a greater or lesser degree of flex however however despite being really fussy about suspension and brakes I have never really felt any difference.

About 4 years ago the Mrs got me a set of Hope cranks as a suprise for Christmas. They are now on their second frame and the original BB is still totally smooth. Are they technically betterer than the other options....? Probably not. Are they the most cost effective per gram saved??? I suspect not. However when I moved them onto a box fresh carbon frame plus fork about a year ago did it feel like a shame not to put a new set on (like it did with the drivetrain)??? Not at all! They still look and feel first rate. I just don't get that 3 years in with the competition.


 
Posted : 23/03/2020 8:49 pm
Posts: 902
Free Member
 

I bought some new XT cranks a while back. What @slackboy said is very true. Within three rides they were scuffed to bits! Wish I'd done what @prezet asked and helitaped them. I did it with my frame. Should I buy another set of cranks, irrespective of the manufacturer, I'll definitely be taping them.


 
Posted : 24/03/2020 10:31 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

I always put like an invisiframe  type tape in my cranks , wears through anyway just delays the inevitable


 
Posted : 24/03/2020 11:25 am
Posts: 728
Free Member
 

I invisiframe mine, makes sense, so why not.

Run XX1 Eagles - they were on CRC a while ago now for crazy cheap. Been running SRAM forever, they are (I think just) lighter than XTR, loads of direct mount ring options & tend to just work.

I don't like the self extracting bolt design & the crazy torque to do them up, the old Shimano pinch bolt system was so simple, it was great, but the new XTR don't use that anyway.

If & when there is a bigger aftermarket offering of spare rings for XTR, I would consider swapping over as I have taken chunks out of cranks in the past with rocks, and fancy my chances with Alu rather than carbon 🙂


 
Posted : 24/03/2020 11:34 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
Topic starter
 

Yeah carbon cranks, that’s a negative ghostrider


 
Posted : 24/03/2020 11:36 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
Posts: 9135
Full Member
 

Can’t beat XT’s for weight and durability.

I seem to remember some Shimano interview many moons ago explained the robustness to weight description of XTR was lighter than XT, but not as robust, and LX were heavier than XT and considerably more robust, and they considered the LX groupset to be the best for longevity. Or something like that.


 
Posted : 24/03/2020 3:45 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

The new 8100 series XT cranks come with protection tape pre applied.


 
Posted : 24/03/2020 5:06 pm
Posts: 3783
Free Member
 

45 grams. Kind of defeats the reason for buying lightweight cranks. I either sand them down and polish them or put clear tape across them.

 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293125666007 

 
Posted : 24/03/2020 8:09 pm
Posts: 824
Free Member
 

Eewings


 
Posted : 25/03/2020 7:09 am

6 DAYS LEFT
We are currently at 95% of our target!