[Closed] New Cotic - the Jeht

Added seatpost insertion is a good thing.

Shit name.

You know you want one Dazh.

Of course I do, having almost a full set I'll need it to complete the collection. The name though, where the hell has that come from? Should have have called it a Flocket 🙂

I literally just got a FlareMax! I blame kelvin entirely.

It's a palindrome.

It does look nice and my G2 FlareMAX is ace. I'd sort of decided I wanted a Starling providing I like the single pivot but now I'm not so sure.

Is it a replacement for the FlareMax, the Rocket or it's own thing?

Flare -> Flare Max -> Jeht -> Rocket -> RocketMax ?

I blame kelvin entirely.

Not fair. There's a lot of Richard in the look and name of this one... and Cy has been working for a long time on the new geometry and suspension layout for this one for a long long time... blame them both before me please.

Is it a replacement for the FlareMax, the Rocket or it’s own thing?

It is its own thing. It doesn't replace any of the other models. n+1

Murray

Is it a replacement for the FlareMax, the Rocket or it’s own thing?

FlaremMax 120 29, RocketMax 160 29, daft name 140 29

I like it but I'd happily wait for the Taiwanese one. Sometimes I'll pay to support UK manufacturing but sometimes I just can't.

It’s a palindrome

Not only that, but it's the same backwards as it is forwards.

Man, I'm loving the afterburner colour.
If only 29'ers weren't dead 😒
Where's the 650?

Anyone want to buy a Rocket 275?

Anyone want to buy a mark 1 flare max in grey?

This jehhht looks great.

They need to rename the Escapade as the Squib. Looks nice, wonder if this means the next RocketMax can go up in travel slightly.

It’s a palindrome.

So it's a 'J'? That's just as bad.

What's bigger than a Rocket, is Saturn V trademarked?

wonder if this means the next RocketMax can go up in travel slightly

That's already happened! The new RocketMAX went from 150 to 160mm of rear travel.

water bottle. Two of them, just not there. I will say no more

water bottle. I will say no more

Who puts a water bottle on a trail bike?

So it’s a ‘J’?

The Singletrack news story gave us all a handy earworm to let us now how it's really pronounced...

water bottle. I will say no more

looks like 2 - one under the downtube and under the top tube for those on a non-piggy back shock

Who puts a water bottle on a trail bike?

trail riding would seem like an application where one is in need of hydration

looks like 2

Depends on the size. And whether UK or Taiwan... IIRC. Some only take 1.

That looks really nice. Would be an ideal partner to my Soul for days out in the peaks.

Good point with the bottle.
My medium Rocket will not fit any kind of bottle seemingly.
It's quite annoying.
Bites into my shred time innit.

Happy to take an XL in teal on long term test if that would be helpful?

Looks awesome. Kinda thinking about a new bike next year but are Cotic doing an Orange and making loads of bikes that seem to be very close in what they offer??

DaveyBoyWonder

Looks awesome. Kinda thinking about a new bike next year but are Cotic doing an Orange and making loads of bikes that seem to be very close in what they offer??

Yeah, they should go back to making the Soul and BFe, two totally different steel hardtails with the same geometry.

I don't think the top tube mount is for a bottle cage. Even without a piggyback shock, I doubt a bottle would fit - I reckon that's for tool storage.

The single bottle mount is under the downtube. Which is a shitty place to put it.

Looks good other than that. I'd have mine in Yeti blue.

Yeah, they should go back to making the Soul and BFe, two totally different steel hardtails with the same geometry.

Heresy! They were quite different. One was a bit spendy, the other was more spendy.

I don’t think the top tube mount is for a bottle cage. Even without a piggyback shock, I doubt a bottle would fit – I reckon that’s for tool storage.

Larger sizes of the FlareMax fit a bottle there.

Very happy with my flare max gen 2 but if this had been available at the time I think i would of gone for it . I assume this means no more flare max132 , speaking of which has anyone modified their flare max to the 132 version ? any different ?

Think they revised out the 132 option with the latest Flaremax, just 125mm now IIRC.

This looks decent, would be an option if I needed a new all-rounder. Good to see some more realistic pricing in there.

Anyone want to buy a mark 1 flare max in grey?

Potentially. What size?

Not only that, but it’s the same backwards as it is forwards.

No it isn’t, there’s only a cassette on the rear... 🤪

Jeht: the sound a cat makes sicking up a fur ball...😺😹

Looks mint, but am I only the one who wishes they'd stuck with the old wraparound downtube decals? I like the new head tube badge, a lot more modern, but not a fan of the new downtube name at all.

but it’s the same backwards as it is forwards.

so its name is "the jeht".

As in:
"is that the rocket?" "no, its the The Jeht"

How is it pronounced in Yorkshire?

I think it looks pretty good, and is certainly an option as a potential replacement for my Gen2 Rocket if i wanted to go full 29er (the RocketMax is too much for me now at 160mm travel). I agree with Chakaping on the pricing aswell, the Taiwan option brings it back down to sensible again.

The TT bottle mount should work with a L or XL for sure, it does on the Rocket anyway.

To be a palindrome the name would have to be theJeht or the J eht

How is it pronounced in Yorkshire?

ee-jeht! ee-jeht!

Which is the sound I make just before crashing.

I thought it was German for something.

Very happy with my flare max gen 2 but if this had been available at the time I think i would of gone for it . I assume this means no more flare max132 , speaking of which has anyone modified their flare max to the 132 version ? any different ?

Me.
Running 132 rear and 140 front plus put a -2 headset in.
Brilliant. Safe & stable, perfect for my limited skillset on the steep Valley trails.
The only advantage I could see with the Jeht is that I could get a 200 dropper in rather than just the 170.

And yes, I have a bottle cage on mine but just a small 330ml one, and the rest of the time I use a bag.

I like it but I’d happily wait for the Taiwanese one. Sometimes I’ll pay to support UK manufacturing but sometimes I just can’t.

If you're buying a bike, it's less than 10% more.

@lawman91 you're not but the newer graphics have grown on me since they originally started using them. Still much prefer the old wrap though.

Hate the name but, if I was buying a bike today that'd be in the running. Nice to see more seatpost insertion, that's (imo) something that all long travel bikes should be doing- if you can't fit a proper long dropper in a 2020 bike it's not fit for purpose.

Entirely Taiwan made? (except the launch edition)

Entirely Taiwan made? (except the launch edition)

Taiwan built frames? Yes. Welded and painted in Taiwan. Bikes are put together in Calver though. And I presume the 853 tubes are still drawn in the UK? Not sure many things are “entirely” made in any one country these days.

Launch edition has swingarms welded in Taiwan, front-ends welded in Scotland, hardware made in England, painted in Scotland, frame put together in Calver.

https://www.cotic.co.uk/product/jeht#origin

Oh dear. Still loving my MK1 Soul but can't help thinking that looks the perfect FS if I wanted to get one....

Was holding out for Orange to release a new stage five. But this looks interesting and ticks a lot of boxes.

Any news on a new five from orange?

I thought the Stage Five was pretty contemporary, and just the 27in Five was due an update.

However neither are on the site at the mo. Wonder if they are gonna merge them as a single 29er model?

On a similar note, is this the first Cotic 29er not to be appended with MAX? Sign of things to come?

Running 132 rear and 140 front plus put a -2 headset in.
Brilliant. Safe & stable, perfect for my limited skillset on the steep Valley trails.

good to know , I'm a regular visitor to the valley  and am getting withdrawal symptoms at the moment . Think I will go for it when I get the suspension serviced .

Was holding out for Orange to release a new stage five. But this looks interesting and ticks a lot of boxes.

Any news on a new five from orange?

Lad on retrobike that has a Orange selling bike shop reckons there are no plans for a 2021 5 or Stage 5. Glad I got my S5 earlier this year!

Don't care for the Jeht name, sounds daft but it's better than just calling everything MAX! Would like a go on one though.

kelvin
Full Member

Taiwan built frames? Yes. Welded and painted in Taiwan. Bikes are put together in Calver though. And I presume the 853 tubes are still drawn in the UK? Not sure many things are “entirely” made in any one country these days.

Wasn't having a poke, just it's a bit of a change from the Five Lands frames/half frames.

Wasn’t having a poke, just it’s a bit of a change from the Five Lands frames/half frames.

I didn’t think you were poking! I think the confusion is because it might look like as if in future everything is coming via FiveLand… it isn’t… it was always the case that “fully Taiwan” frames would keep coming, including this new model. What’s different for this one, is that the main production batch is “fully Taiwan”, but there are also some “uk front end and painted” frames being built… whereas the other models are one or t’other.

Heart was set on a Flaremax to replace the trusty Five 29 but I'm loving that TBH

Perfect time to introduce the first electric Cotic, the E-Jeht 😀

Gone all quiet on the Jeht front...

Have they shipped/made it into the wild yet? All the UK frames sold out on the website for a couple days.

And I’ll just leave this here...

I think you will find The jehT is for boys and girls