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Just stripped my Slash frame and fork to clean ready for sale. Now I'm sat here patiently waiting for TNT/FedEx to turn up 🙂
Bought the frame from James (@pigyn) at Pedals Bike Care in Edinburgh. Good old fashioned phone order! Excellent service and thoroughly friendly people they are.
I've been after a shorter travel 29er for a bit and it was between this and a Stage Evo. I loved my Trek, and it's probably the best one I've had so far, but my legs were just too short for the seat tube!
I'll stick some pics up and write a bit about it when it's done as there's not a load of info out on this particular model.
Posting the thread before receiving the frame.... I hope you haven't put the mockers on that delivery now.
Bollocks! I didn't think of that haha!
It'd be my bloody luck that too.
I've upgraded my prime v2 to a titan this year, the new ks2 linkage is great. Enjoy!
To be honest, it was seeing a V3 Titan in the flesh that swung it. The bloke riding it let me have a good poke around and then demonstrated by clearing a massive gap jump on it 🙂
Titan owner here, I luuuurve it.
Checking in, Phantom V3 is very high on my shortlist for my next bike. I loved my old Spitfire and still wish I'd never sold it
Anyone got a Prime V3 or can point me in the direction of a review? Interested in these.
It's arrived!
See you in a few hours... oh and I like the nice touch with the top cap 🙂
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Shiny! I like that a lot.
Very nice indeed.
Starting to get excited about the Titan I've got on order.
Nice that. Reminds me a lot of my old 2006 Giant Reign (in a good way, great bike!).
Couldn't you afford the paint? 😉
I like that a lot.
Glad it arrived ok 😊 I finally took the plunge and ordered a Prime - in raw - to build up 29+ (at least at the front) ❤️
Phwoar. That. Is. Fit.
Haha, looked in the box and couldn't see anymore paint. I reckon he's ripped me off 🙂
Prime will be ace with that setup! Tempted to steal my wife's back wheel and try a mullet!
Finished for now (about 99%).
Really took my time to get the cables nice and neat on this one. Easily the best looking bike I've had!
Might need a new chain (old one looks just too short). Dropped a small screw inside the frame and spent 30 mins trying to fish it out, right at the end too!
Going to leave the decals off the Fox fork for now as I like the looks of it.
Got a few upgrades planned in the future once I've got all the suspension (and the saddle angle) set up.
Here's a few pics built up, I'll take some more when it gets dirty 🙂
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They do make a beautiful raw frame, do Banshee.
I loved my mk1 phantom until it snapped. Luckily pedals/@pigyn sorted me a warranty prime.
Your phantom looks ace. Very envious!
Was it the screw for the cable bungs on the downtube? I did that on my Rune and had to take the fork out.
Love the raw, was my first choice, but ended up with orange.
v v nice - another envious older-banshee owner here.
Be interested to see if the cast cage area collects mud and how easy it is to clean that and the shock shaft.
@pedlad my Rune doesn't collect mud there & it open at the bottom so easy to clean anything in there.
It's also easy to make a mudguard for the inside of the swingarm.
My Slash has a very similar opening at the bottom of the shock, smaller too but still easy to clean.
Waiting for my new chain as the old one is a tad too short. Spare brake pads turned up in less that 24 hours from Uber Bike so that was a nice surprise!
Just waiting to see where I can go at the weekend to try it out depending on restrictions. I could probably get away with a 20 min drive to Rivington?
Very nice! Love the raw too. Enjoy
Yep, the tiny screw for the cable bung things! Thought they were a clever idea till I poked the screw through the wrong hole (ohh err!).
My choice was raw or black, but I didn't want another black bike 🙂
The raw tint this year on the banshees is stunning.
You have a gorgeous bike there, but you have no money left over for skirting Boards so I feel there's been a cosmic rebalancing. Which is nice
I'm a 2014 spitfire owner and deffo need to get an update
Anyway, theres no greater pleasure than new bike day, and I've included my son's birth and wedding day
Very nice indeed
Never mind the saddle angle, you need to go find your skirting board first
haha! House DIY gets put off for years here 🙂
I'll get around to it 😉
You need to run a vacuum cleaner under your sofa. Nice bike by the way!
Oh I know! Been a hectic few weeks. There's a massive oak desk taking up half of the room too that I need to get upstairs!
Went out and got it dirty today. Still getting suspension set up right, but it feels very quick!
Bottom bracket height is a lot lower than my Slash was, so have to get used to that 🙂
Need to add another token to the fork and maybe get a bigger volume spacer for the shock too. It's plush, but bottoming out too easily (even at the correct sag).
Here's a dirty pic
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Great looking frame. I went the runev3 route but yet to build it up.
What size rotor and mount you running out back?
Thanks!
Thanks 🙂 I don't reckon you'll be unhappy with the Rune.
I've just got a 180mm Sram Centreline rotor on the back as it's just what I had to hand. I'm tempted to go 200mm at the back to match the front though.
As this is probably the first full suspension bike I've had I can legitimately try a smaller wheel at the back, I really want to have a go!
I might see if I can pick up a cheap DT Swiss rear wheel to try soon, or at least something with a DT350 hub.
What size of frame did you go for and what height are you?
I was in Pedals last week eyeing up the Project DC frames they do but after talking to them a Phantom or similar might make more sense..
What forks and any idea on complete weight?
Ah yeah, I might as well do a full spec list of the build, I'd forgotten about that!
I'm 6'2" and went for an XL. Fairly short legs though with a 33" inseam! It's the reason I'm selling my XL Slash frame soon (seat tube was too tall for my liking).
Frame: Banshee Phantom V3 XL (inc. Fox DPX2 Performance Elite)
Fork: Fox 34 Performance 130mm (51mm offset)
Gears: Shimano SLX 12 speed (inc crank)
Brakes: Sram Guide RSC (200mm front, 180mm rear).
Pedals: Burgtec Penthouse Mk.4
Bars: Renthal FatBar Alu 780mm
Grips: DMR Deathgrip
Stem: Spank Spoon 50mm
Wheels: Santa Cruz Reserve 27 with DT Swiss 350 hubs
Tyres: Michelin Wild Enduro 2.4 (front and rear set)
Dropper: Bontrager 150mm
Saddle: Ergon SM Enduro M/L
I'd estimate the weight to be around 14.8kg. It's not a light bike but it feels incredibly sturdy and pedals very well. I'll probably be getting a lighter bar/stem for crimbo so that will probably shave a few grams.
I'm also running the drop outs in the lower position at the moment and getting used to the lower BB. Once I've had a few rides, I'll swap to the neutral position and see what that feels like.
Thanks for the spec list. I went Large on the Rune at 6ft,33" inseam.
Can these bikes take 200mm in the back? Looking for an adapter.
@lightfighter762 Don't see why not. It's just an IS to post mount adapter. I've been riding a V3 Rune since march & it is an absolute weapon.
One thing I did add was a Topeak Alt Position bottle cage mount to shift the bottle cage down 30mm. Now it can fit a 750mL bottle and still doesn't touch the shock.
Thanks for the info on the h20.
Any further thoughts on the Phantom? Still fancy one when funds allow..
Also keen for some thoughts if possible, I'm considering one as a do-it-all bike from big mile rides and enduro races.
Cheers.
That 2.4 rear looks a little tight, how's the clearance.
Also keen for some thoughts if possible, I’m considering one as a do-it-all bike from big mile rides and enduro races.
The Prime might be a better bet but I don't think there will be that much in it. I've got a 2016 Prime and it's most definitely a do-it-all bike.
This is pretty much my do it all bike at the moment and it does a good job! I will say this though, it's not a light bike despite what the rear travel suggests.
I've had a good few rides on it now to comment further. It feels fast, nimble and can still take a decent sized hit on a descent. I ride fast, rocky stuff quite often around Rivington and the Lakes and it doesn't feel under-biked yet.
On a climb, it feels tight and responsive. You can either sit and spin, or get out of the saddle and honk up stuff, it's happy doing both.
I do feel it more at the end of a ride, but not during. I do keep forgetting that I've not got 150mm of travel, sometimes I'm reminded if I do something silly, but it still carries me through 🙂
Tyre clearance - Yeah, it does look tight, but I've had no issues in some horrendous slop. I wouldn't want to fit anything more than a 2.4 though. I think there's more room than I had in my Hightower with the same wheels.
I'm considering putting a 140mm Yari up front (with a new damper) as I find the Fox 34 a bit noodley for me, if you're lighter than 16 stone, you might be fine with a lighter fork.
Also thinking of a coil shock. It made a massive improvement on my Intense Spider and actually improved pedalling over rough terrain.
And... it looks lovely 🙂
I love how the V3 platform pedals and also deals with a lot of hits.
So after destroying the ratchet tool trying to change the bearings on my back wheel (also think I damaged the axle when the tool shattered), I tried a mullet set up today.
Robbed the wheel from my wife's old bike as that's all I had spare. It's a 40mm id rim with a 2.6 tyre on it... not ideal, but it worked ok to be honest.
Initial thoughts are that it feels fast to accelerate and cornering felt a little weird at first, that will take some getting used to. I felt like I had to tip the bike more when entering the corner if that makes sense?
Climbing felt a little harder, but I think I'm putting more effort in to get to the same pace as a 29er wheel.
Overall it felt good, different but good. Plan is now to buy a 27.5 wheel and maybe re-hub my Santa Cruz wheels to Hope.
Bit of an update on this bike. I wasn't really gelling with it to be honest and nearly had the frame up for sale. This has changed completely now though since I've got my custom fork sorted!
I took the old 160mm Yari from my previous bike and dismantled it. Sent the lowers to @bigyim for a lick of paint (incredible paint finish!), fitted a 130mm air spring, Charger 2.1 RC2 damper and fresh Racing Bros wiper seals.
It's completely transformed the bike from the FOX 34 Performance! I initially put he fork back on with the old Moco damper and it was really bad, which is strange because it was actually decent as 160mm travel!
Changed the grips to some Ergon GE1 Evo and the pedals to Nukeproof composites too to match the fork. I also fitted a Reverb AXS (one less cable to rattle!).
I may still go coil on the rear yet, but I've not decided. Here is how it looks now...
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Different shock and maybe GX AXS will be the next upgrades 🙂
Oooh.. loving the old school Judy SL paintjob.!!
Thanks 🙂
It was just an idea I had while trying to decide on what colour to go for. I was originally just going to buy a new fork, but this route worked out a lot cheaper (and it's a bit unique).
I like those forks too.
Dare you to do yellow rear end - a la Marin Mount Vision.
Jesus, don't tempt me. You don't know how suggestable I am haha.
Just seen an XL up for sale but not sure on sizing.
Banshee say 6'3" and up for XL?
See there is a variation of people riding large and XL around this height.
I am 6'2" with 34 inch inside leg and see large is the recommended size?
Hope you can help?
Max.
Sorry @Turnerfan1 I've only just seen this.
I would 100% recommend XL for you. Not sure what's going on with their size chart, but my frame is actually for sale.
I'm 6'2" with a 33 inseam and XL was perfect (I had a 150mm dropper without slamming all the way).
You could easily get away with a 170mm post in this I reckon.
Thanks John for the reply!
I kinda figured the XL would be ok looking at the dimensions.
What's the reason for sale?
I have some 35mm SIDs on my hardtail so planning on a downcountry style build!
What sort of price are you looking for the frameset if you don't mind me asking?
Thanks again,
Max.
I just wanted to go up in travel a bit for the sort of riding I enjoy.
The frame is up (on here) for £1250 at the moment, but it's been for sale for that long I've considered building it back up and trying it again.
I swapped the frame for a Bird Aether 9 and it's very good, but it's annoyed me that the shock bushes have lasted barely 10 rides.
Ideally you'd want the fork travel to be between 130-140mm, but I think someone else built one up with a 120mm fork for similar purposes.