[Closed] My new commuter !! Genesis equilibrium content.

spot on - well done 🙂

beutiful.

Do you think it looks to small...........

Front wheel/qr in wrong way round.

Is it ?

The front wheel or the q/r ?

Do you think it looks to small..........

Do you want to tell him or shall I do it?

Do you want to tell him or shall I do it?

Lol

lot of post showing. how tall are you.

It's nice from the top tube down.

He's not tall, just 98% legs 😀

Well done, you've ruined it.

Ruined it how ?

Seat post height not set in the pics gents.

It's a lot lower in real life.

Better picture......
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Seat is about 5 cm lower than shown.

Look at the state of the bars/stem, and you're saying you've moved the seat lower = even moar ruined.

Eh you've lost me mate ?

What's wrong with it ?

Is this another joke, like the guy with the time trial bars on his Santa Cruz?

It is a joke, isn't it?

Seriously I have no idea what he is on about.

This is the first road bike I've owned ??

Munrobiker and monkeyfudger please tell me what's wrong with it ??

how tall are you

STIs are pointing at the sky, looks wrong but if you like em like that it's fair enough.

Front wheel/qr in wrong way round.

Needs guards for commuting IMO but yeah nice that.

Just over 6 foot ton. Long torso.

I really do have no idea why I've apparently ruined it. All I've done is set the seat height. Not touched stem and bars ?????

EDIT.... DONK what are sti's ??????

renton - I understand why you keep looking for answers on this forum, but sooner or later you need to look inside yourself for the answers - only you know how the bike fits you and if it is comfortable etc. Have some confidence in your own ability to set your bike up how you like and don't feel like you need to conform to a certain standard.

Looks spot on for the job that does.

You could do with rotating the bars forward and, being a bit silly here, flipping the stem and slamming it as well. But really, just rotate the bars and it'll be fine.

Ah right I'm getting it now, you lot are on about bar rotation and the brake levers sticking up.

You do realise that it's a second hand bike that I only picked up last night and that maybe bar and stem position is set up for the previous owner.

Nice one lads thanks for the help ??????

When do we get a pic of you on the bike for the ultimate lolz?

OK, well-

The saddle nose is pointing slightly down, tipping your weight forward.
The stem is the wrong way up for a road bike (though some may say do what you want with this...)
The bars are rotated a long way up, pushing the weight back that you're putting forwards because of the saddle pointing down.
There is a lot of seatpost sticking out and a lot of stem. Which implies that the frame is not the right size.
The front wheel QR is on the wrong side.
There are still reflectors on the wheels.

Also, is that a bell on the bars?

Stem is v long and pointing up, bars pointed skywards (prob due to former)

Lovely bikes though, ride well if you don't add racks (like I had to).

Munro biker.

Thanks for that.

Rather than taking the piss why didn't you just point that out the in the first place.

I've set the seat post and its a lot lower than in the pictures, looks weird to me now as I have a long post on my mtb.

I've not touched the stem or bars but you are right they do look high and I will sort this out when I get chance to ride it.

There is a bell on the bars, from previous owner. Ditto the reflectors.

Oh and I've turned the front wheel round now.

Monkeyfudger you are coming across as a bit of a knob to be honest.

DONK what are sti's

The saddle nose is pointing slightly down

The stem is the wrong way up for a road bike

You do realise that it's a second hand bike that I only picked up last night

The bars are rotated a long way up, pushing the weight back that you're putting forwards because of the saddle pointing down.

equilibrium
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noun
a state in which opposing forces or influences are balanced.

See, makes sense now eh? 🙂

Cheers donk.

Bell is staying.

Velo 42 mudguards don't fit so need to.save for some new ones.

It's not a bad bike for £30 I guess.

The stem does look long and upward pointed but you may prefer it that way, try it in a few positions (point up and down, slammed and at the top) and see what works for you. My suspicion if you're all legs is that you'll want it lower and may perhaps need a shorter stem but that is wild and unsubstantiated speculation based on nothing at all.

There is a bell on the bars, from previous owner. Ditto the reflectors.

Edit

It's not a bad bike for £30 I guess.

If I'm honest renton I think you seem like you could be one of a few people who could benefit from going and having a bike fit done, especially as it's your first road bike. Based on your previous bikes you seem to be a very funny shape and like an unusual riding position.

I would say it's time to go and see a professional and get some proper advice about how to make that bike fit you. It will cost you an extra £50 or so, plus some for a stem, but compare that to however many years sat in the wrong position, being uncomfortable and swapping and changing stems and bars every few months and it works out as good value.

Edit: £30! Well done. In which case you should definitely be able to find £50 for a bike fit.

Cheers lunge.

I have a 32.5 inch inside leg and have a slightly longer torso

Edit.... munrobiker, I'm going to play around with it to start with and if I can t get it set up comfy I will get a bike fit.

Keep reflectors, pedals and bell.

Rotate bars so they are almost horizontal with the ground at their lowest point which will bring the shifters down. Leave the shifters where they are on the bars unless they are a problem in their new position. If you need to move them on the bars, get some black bar tape whilst you are at it.

Put the QR on whatever side you like.

Bargaintastic.

Ok so this is where we are now ......
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Saddle at right height and bars rotated.

The stem is probably to high but will ride it and see.

£30?!?

Where did you find a bike that cheap?

£30 suggests it's been nicked.

Other than that, lovely bike, should enjoy it.

Nope not nicked.

If it's not nicked then selling for £30 is either desperate or daft.

If it's not nicked then selling for £30 is either desperate or daft.

or very charitable, in which case why was it not just given away?

Actually it was given to me and the £30 was petrol money for another mate to collect it.

It needs a bit of fettling and the pedals Are seized in the cranks but other than that is nice.

I'll give you £60 for that and you can keep the 100% profit 😉
Seriously, you've picked up a lovely bike there, nice going

Actually it was given to me and the £30 was petrol money for another mate to collect it.

Nice one 🙂

that last picture looks a lot better. You may want to flip the stem, probably best trying it both ways - there isn't a 'right' or 'wrong' despite what some may say about slamming stems etc 🙂

It's the stem being 'the wrong way round' that makes it look a bit odd.

Genesis always seem to come with the stem that way up. This was my CDF before I got fettling :

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What effect on the bike will flipping the stem have ?

My Equilibrium came with the stem the right way round -

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But it's a road bike, not a CX / tour / commute bike like the CdF.

What effect on the bike will flipping the stem have ?

basically it will adjust your weight distribution a bit more and drop your head and shoulders a few inches. Gets a more efficient road esq shape, but arguably less good for Cx/tour etc as above.

Really best to go try it. On my 2014 Croix I had it flipped up, on my 2015 one I have it down, and the frame geometries are only slightly different. Whatever feels comfortable will be best, everyone has different levels of flexibility etc , so many many variables

Mister P - Member

My Equilibrium came with the stem the right way round -

It's the same way round?

I have my bars on my commuter set quite high (mainly due to the urgent need to replace a stem with something cheap and in the spares box of the lbs). I find it's better when commuting through the city centre, less strain on the back and neck.

Fantactic deal btw

My old equilibrium commuter:

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Nice that buzzlightyear.

What guards is it running.

What effect on the bike will flipping the stem have ?

It may mean that you never use the drops.. forget what 'looks' right or gets the nod for looking like a race bike, just get comfy. If it's not right somehow after the first few hours I expect a layback post may be worth a try before worrying about the stem too much. I have an inline post one one of my road bikes but generally they feel odd, they can sit you too far fwd and make it a lot harder to get in balance.

Nice bike btw : ) my favourite Equilibrium colour / generation there.

here are my 2 Croix de Fer's, older and new showing the stem each way up !

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SKS P35 with Long mudflaps.

Renton if you are looking at fitting guards but are struggling for space, have a look at the giant defy mud guard. Think they can be had for 25 to 30 quI'd.

Cheers.

I tried a quick for of the velo 42 I had in the shed and there was no way they were fitting.

Ok so the front mech is fitted and set up.

Ive also had a play with the cockpit set up to and this is how it stands now.........

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I noticed that although the chainset is a double, the front shifter seems to be a tripple?

Is there a way of changing it to a double at all?

Stems a funny thing with a 72deg ha 110mm 6deg stem pos rise with no spacers is the same as a neg rise 110mm -6 neg stem with 20mm spacers . Iirc there is only 1mm of rise / reach difference. So in some combos it really is only about the looks rather than performance

So misterp you could really lose thr 20mm spacers and flip the stem the so called wrong way round and have the same fit but no spacers. Depends on your perception of right. Flipped stem or spacers under a neg rise stem

I only know this as im playing with options for my new bike im waiting on

Set up looks much better to me. You could rotate the bars back a touch as well if you feel the nee but that's a reasonable start point.

Re. Shifters, there's no way of changing them from a triple to a double but if you set the limit screws on the front mech up you'll be fine. In fact, I have a feeling that shifters of a certain range and vintage only came in triple form. May be wrong in that though.

Nice bike that, £30 is a steal. I paid over £200 for a used frame and fork.....

I've bookmarked this to get a picture of mine up when I get a chance, very proud of it, looks lovely and suitably different from the plastic bike in terms of looks and ride.

Don't be bullied into setting the bike up as the snobs say you should, it needs to be comfy. If you are coming from a mtb background (like I did) it may take a while for you to adjust to the position, I started with a +16 90mm and as I've become more used to the road moved to a +6 100mm, which is now starting to feel a little short

Saddle has got to go!!! its like sitting on a plank of wood !

Double shifters still have 3 clicks. The second click is a trim position when using the smaller cogs on the cassette in the smaller ring at the front.

Ah ok thanks for that.

Has anyone got an original silver seatpost lying about at all they want to sell?

^^^ no but I have a brand new black Genesis stem that came on my CDF30 which would give you the colourmatch ? 🙂

Much better! Looks fit for the job now! Even for that price I can't say it's sexy in case mine gets jealous...

Flipped stem or spacers under a neg rise stem

This is true . But often people call the stem police when really the spacer police should have been alerted 😉

What's all this about the QR being on the wrong side? I've always set mine up with the lever on the non-drive side, but I can't see why the opposite would be wrong.

Nice looking bike by the way. Should be a lot better for your commute than the MTB. Have fun.

spacers and neg rise stem is more aerodynamic !!!

Has anyone got an original silver seatpost lying about at all they want to sell?

yes, and the white saddle that came with the bike.

Yours for postage, although in reality you might get a better deal buying a post from one of the onlines with their cheap/free postage.

Turner guy.

I want to keep the bike as original as possible so if the saddle a d post are in good condition I will take them please.

Email in profile matey.

Cheers
Steve.