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Looks like this is the proposed move of the freeride park down towards the peel. Then the building of holiday homes where the freeride park is just now.
More investment for the area and the industry. Can only be a good thing.
Yeah, I think that is a re-announcenent of the existing plans.
Looks like this is the proposed move of the freeride park down towards the peel.
I wonder if they will move the wall rides down and close them off just to keep the character of the place or maybe that will become the back fence of the holiday stuff.
I had that very discussion about the wall rides with someone a few months ago while talking about the plans.
Probably enough wood in the big one to make a hobbit hut. 🤣
Is it that great though? Tweed Valley is already bursting with amazing trails for all, so could the money not be spent elsewhere and spread the joy?
Not a bad news, but not great...
Aye it's odd that there's not as much investment in other parts of the borders.
I think it's the fact it looks like it's the end of the existing developments not a new phase. The accommodation part at GT will generate good sustainable income for the area which good.
90% of the money invested in GT is going on the cabins is it not?
I believe this is money being invested by the public purse, because there is an investment by the company doing the development, so it's unlikely that the money would be directed elsewhere...?
I've no problem with all the funding going to the Tweed valley, tbh it's one of the only places about that seems to have backing from the LA and the community to fully unlock it's potential, and not just play at it.
Aye it’s odd that there’s not as much investment in other parts of the UK
FTFY
I've pointed out the irony before of positioning an environmentally friendly sport and eco/glamping stuff an 8 hour drive from most of the population.
It's only ironic if there isn't enough folk closer to hand to make use of them. Folk driving 8 hours to get to Glentress are passing all sorts of very similar facilities en route.
I’ve pointed out the irony before of positioning an environmentally friendly sport and eco/glamping stuff an 8 hour drive from most of the population.
That's a bizarre way of thinking.
It’s only ironic if there isn’t enough folk closer to hand to make use of them. Folk driving 8 hours to get to Glentress are passing all sorts of very similar facilities en route.
True, there's S.Wales (not en route from London but it is closer).
But my point was that if you're a mountainbiker in London and want to ride decent trail centers for a weekend* your choices really do start to narrow down to those with very long drives.
Depends whether you view these facilities as leisure facilities or to attract tourism. As the former they're useless, as the latter they're great.
*So ruling out Swinley, Woburn, QECP, PORC, Aston Hill, etc which are all good fun if you're local and have a couple of hours to spend, but you don't see a que of Scot's waiting to drop in at the clubhouse or supping buckfast at the top of Red15 and certainly wouldn't entertain you for two days riding.
So, there's nothing at all wrong with
positioning an environmentally friendly sport and eco/glamping stuff an 8 hour drive from most of the population
it's just that there isn't one nearer London?
I'd have said that
 if you’re a mountainbiker in London and want to ride decent trail centers for a weekend
then you need to move house.
FWIW, I live in the Scottish Highlands and don't have a huge range of cinemas, theatres or even jobs on my doorstep but that's the choice I made.
FWIW, I live in the Scottish Highlands and don’t have a huge range of cinemas, theatres or even jobs on my doorstep but that’s the choice I made.
That's kinda the point of taxation though, one person can't afford a trail center, but 1,000,000 can chip in a quid or two each. My gripe is why is it always then built where the 1 person lives. It's just a function of the Barnett/Smiths formula.
The justification is then that it brings tourist money to the area. Which it does, but probably split 50/50 between the local economy and the petrol required to get there!
BUT WHERE ARE MY CINEMAS, THEATRES AND JOBS?????
No one is forcing folk to drive to Scotland or Wales (or the North East) from London.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/01/transport-spending-gap-london-north-of-england-ippr
Not everything has to be close to London. Then add to that it’s Scotland so funded by Scotland, if it been funded by the English government it would in the south.
I’ve pointed out the irony before of positioning an environmentally friendly sport and eco/glamping stuff an 8 hour drive from most of the population.
This statement says so much about, well, just so much. All the face palms.
What a bizarre argument.
My gripe is why is it always then built where the 1 person lives
Well its built where there is space and access. Â You want something closer to where you live I suggest you lobby the local council/forestry management to get something built.
My gripe is why is it always then built where the 1 person lives
Surely the quality of what it has to offer is due in large part to its location. That's like keen skiers in the central belt complaining that the nearest decent ski tows are a 3 hour drive away. Thems the breaks.
Also it is not like it is in the middle of nowhere. Edinburgh is little over 1/2 an hour away. Glasgow is just 1 hour away, and Newcastle less that 2 hours by car.
I have a bit of a gripe though. I went to an open display they had at the Peel centre where plans were on show and reps from FCS and the holiday homes company. I did feel that a lot of effort has gone into the plans for the holiday homes, with regard to environmental impact and visibility, but the trails and trail head facilities were not fleshed out at all making it seem like an afterthought.
The free ride park and Zoom or Bust will go along with the upper car park.The loss of the top car park is the biggest problem I have with it. I feel the channelling of all people to the bottom of the hill takes away from the possibility of younger or less able riders to experience even a slightly off the beaten track feel and terrific views higher up.
I managed to coax my 9 year old son up to the mast from the top car park a few weeks ago before doing some of the black. He was really chuffed with himself, however this would be hard to achieve for him if the top access was lost soon, and I don't think he or myself would enjoy the theme park and gift shop feel that may well come about as a result of some of the changes.
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The justification is then that it brings tourist money to the area. Which it does, but probably split 50/50 between the local economy and the petrol required to get there!"
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Laggan Wolftrax broke even after 2 years. Glentress brings in millions of quid. It's a no-brainer, these things are amazing investments.
Incidentally, the population centre of the UK is slightly north of Birmingham- most of the population less than 5 hours from Peebles. In fact hardly anyone is 8 hours from Peebles- you've got to be further west than Plymouth, or on an island.
Damn you and your facts Northy.
Won't someone think of the Cockneys?.... 🤣