[Closed] Michelin Wild Enduro

I've had mine on for about 9 months and absolutely love it.
No issues with durability and oodles of grip in all conditions.
Mine's the Magic-X 27.5" x 2.4".

Another thread here: https://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/michelin-wild-enduro/

Thanks Stevie. Are they closer to a Super Gravity/Double down toughness wise?

3 people I ride with now use them as a front tyre. No complaints regarding grip in muddy South Wales. Seem to be holding up better than EXO casings.
Most brands have good options these days.

Great tyres. I'm using Magi-X during the winter and Gum-X during the summer. Magi-x def gives more grip.

Rear tyre is great too.

Sidewalls are no where near as heavy as a double down tyre but ive had no issues.

I use the Michelin Wild Muds as a winter tyre, for the last 3 years,  I had the reinforced sidewall versions to start with and now got the enduro casing version (allegedly a bit lighter) on the front this winter.  I've run them as low as 18 psi and smashed through Southdown's chalk and flint descents with no sidewall punctures/major damage.

Only two punctures in that time that wouldn't seal were a piece of fence wire and the largest thorn I've ever seen.  Both centre tread, sidewalls have a few nicks but nothing compared to what the maxxis I used to run picked up in a summer.

How do the two compounds compare to say 3C MaxTerra or Addix soft?

i'm sure when i was looking into them they came up heavier than a double down, some sites had the weight listed lower than what michelin claimed

Hmmm... you're right, Bigfoot. Lot heavier on Michelin site than on some of the shops.. 1140g compared to 980g on the site I was shopping on.

Quite curious about these tires too. I'm sure I read a press release on them somewhere where Michelin said that the firmer compound is actually better for more aggressive riding. Does make selecting the right compound even harder.

Is there someone to test the front tyre gumx in rear Its compatible or I will had problems?
pedaling I don't care I had rockr2 front rear in past I know...and I know with michelins you have 1 year for rides only...no cuts no inner tube nothing....
the rear out of stock from every shop I sent inbox in Michelin nothing...

i know someone who is using the front tyre front and rear and he claims its a good setup.

I'm a bit sad in that I have a spreadsheet of all the bits for my bike..

Wild Enduro 27.5" x 2.4" = 960g
Minion DHF 27.5" x 2.5" DD 3C = 1170g

Where is that 960 weight from, stevie? Michelin list 1090 for the rear in 27.5, 980 front. Pinkbike had 1040g (front), 1110g (rear).

https://bike.michelin.com/en/products/michelin-wild-enduro-rear
https://bike.michelin.com/en/products/michelin-wild-enduro-front-magi-x
https://bike.michelin.com/en/products/michelin-wild-enduro-front-gum-x

Pic of a front here shows 1004g in Magi-X

And another at 989 in Gum-X

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mat7nueve/43593529124/in/photostream/

My current setup is a 2.5 WT Aggressor rear (1105g) and 2.5 DHF DD MaxxGrip front (1170g). So the rear is essentially the same weight, the front would save 170g or so.

I weighed it on my electronic kitchen scales when it arrived.

Cool, sounds liek just regualr variation then. Do they pedal OK?

Yeah, I was really impressed with how well it pedaled. Was a good combination with a Force AM on the rear.
I've just changed them to a DHF 2.5" DD on the front & Griffin 2.3" on the back so will be able to compare the 2 combo's.

I run a front and rear combo, both the the Gum-X compound.
Awesome, awesome tyres. Ran them for 2 weeks in the Alps at pretty low pressures with no issues / punctures. Sidewalls seem to pretty stif as well as touch, allowing lower pressure.

They've been on my bike in Scotland since then, and will likely still be on the bike when I go back to the Alps this summer. Really impressed with the grip in all conditions (from dusty/rocky Alps to wet/icy/snow/rooty Cairngorms) and how well they're wearing.

I've got some to test, and my other half has as well, to be honest i've resisted putting them on as I weighed them, and they are pretty much half a kilo more than my current Minion DHF 2.5 & 2.4 DHR combo, which are already a hefty set of tyres.

I might just save them for Canada this summer. But they have a lot to live up to, as the above is pretty much my perfect tyre setup (maybe a Shorty on the front when it's crappy weather).

Those are EXO casing though - I think these are more in the Super Gravity/Doube Down ballpark

They are, but i've only ever had an issue with one EXO on the rear, and that's because I was riding like an idiot.

Personal experience of SG, is i've had more punctures with that than EXO anyway, and the extra weight really deadens the feel of the bike, hence my reluctance. Slogging that up hills on race days is tough going when it's on the tyres.

I could put up with them if there was a lift everywhere, but for everyday use, on an already heavy, big bike, it's probably a step too far for me!

I don't diaagree. I have Double Downs that I normally use for uplifted days and holidays abroad. Doing somthing a bit more pedally for this year's holiday, so torn between Double Downs that I don't fancy lugging aound, regular EXO that are light but might not be tough enough, or these that might land someplace in between.

The DD Minion does feel stiffer on the sidewall than the Enduro which does feel tougher than EXO.

To save me the indignity of starting my own tyre thread, what kind of riding are people doing on these Wild Enduro's?

Obviously I'd love to be sliding down gnarly chutes and rock faces all day long but in reality I spend most of my time going up and along in the Peak with the occasional, unavoidable bit of tarmac. I've been managing with a Spesh Hillbilly 2.6 up front but it's not pleasant until it's in its element.

I don't want to sacrifice grip on uplift days and fun stuff to gain time on the boring stuff but I don't want to go any slower/gripper than I am already.

Also, CRC are selling them in pairs. Can anyone spot the difference between these two? LINK and LINK

What does the TS refer to on the 80 quid set?

1st link is front Magi -x compound tyre and rear gum-x tyre

2nd link is both gum-x tyres

TS will refer to them being tubeless

For summer / dry use both gum-x will be better. Magi-x is slightly softer compound so is more draggy but better in the wet.

The tyres are made for enduro riding so aren’t the fastest rolling but give amazing grip.

I’ve been using both compounds since the tyres were released and I wouldn’t use anything else now.

Edit - dhrider's covered it

Nice one, spotted the difference now. Might go for double Gum-x's.

I thought the Magic-x racing tyre was a harder compound? Didn't they come up with the theory that a harder tyre comes into action at higher speeds or something? I'll not be hitting EWS speeds any time soon.

Also, I know they're not a lightweight trail tyre but as long as they're not horrific I'll manage. They'll be beginning their life in the Alps next month anyway.

Magi-x is harder and designed for faster use. I use the gum-X front cause I’m slow ha ha ha. Not had enough use out of them to give an opinion though.

I stand corrected -

Compound concept

This is where the interesting stuff happens. Normally a tyre company tries to utilise the softest rubber compounds for its high-end or ‘race’ tyres. Michelin however, has turned this concept on its head and actually utilizes a slightly harder compound for the MAGI-X version of the Wild Enduro. This rubber technology has been taken from Michelin’s Moto GP tyres and is designed to work best when pushed as hard as possible. This makes it the best option for racers and the super fast. For the rest of us mere mortals the GUM-X3D compound is the tyre to go for. With a more consistent level of grip and a more flexible construction for cornering stability, the GUM-X3D will deliver even when out for a gentle pootle.

I def found gum-x better in the dry and magi-x in the wet

Cut n pasted reply I put on another thread:

Running 2.4 wild Enduros F&R on my 29 specie enduro, carbon rims.  23 psi f, 25psi r.  Survived 5 days in Wales, ranging from wet to dry trail centres including BPW, many huge landings too flat or worse due to being totally FUBAR after 5 days.  Minor nick on sidewall and nobbles still good.  Now on Dartmoor with extended rock gardens and still going strong.  Also ride South Downs where enduro casing seems pretty flint resistant, unlike Kenda and many maxxis.

I will be buying again, though maybe not the sticky front compound as its a bit draggy and its knobblies are beginning to loose their square edges.

Mrs M runs a wild enduro on the front at similar pressure on her 27.5 ebike and she’s smashing out the widow maker (basically its a 2 mile granite garden at the moment)

Grip is good to outstanding on most surfaces.

Right, I just made my GF sign up to CRC to get the 10 quid voucher and ordered some. A pair of Gum-x for £70. Can't do much better than that price wise. I used to like experimenting with different tyres but they're far too expensive these days! Which is why I've been on Specialized rubber for over 5 years.

Now to have a serious look at those Hunt wheels......

5 rides in & I'm really liking these, the front leans a lot deeper into a corner than a DHF without any sketchy moments.
About 200g heavier than Minions, but I think it's the beefy sidewalls, slowly dropping the pressure, should be ok at 20/25psi f/r.

Sorry for the thread resurrection - but how do they compare to the usual Magic Mary and Nobby Nik combination?

So been running a pair of these for a few rides now (Front and Rear variants) First off grip levels are fantastic!  im running with Rimpacts on 30mm ID rims.  Sidewalls offer decent strength and stiffness, so even at lowish pressure there is no real roll that i can feel.  They are about perfect.....BUT, jeez the rear tyre feels draggy.  Certainly more so than my old Hans Dampf soft compound.  Rolling resistance is always a trade off, but i would prefer a slightly easier to pedal variant.

Which leads me onto a question, has anyone ran the Force AM as a rear tyre?  It looks a little light weight to me.  But my OCD wont allow me to run odd tyre brand combos so im looking for a complementary Michelin rear for summer riding,

I'd like them to do a Kenda Honey Badger tread pattern with Michelin sidewalls and carcass in a 29n 2.6 for the front with a small block 8 tread pattern 2.4 for the rear.  That'd be a perfect South Downs scary fast tyre combo.

I did run a 2.35" Force AM on the back for a while with Wild Enduro up front. Nice & fast but the tread is shallower than I would have liked at the time but did work surprisingly well.

so im looking for a complementary Michelin rear for summer riding,

the tread is shallower than I would have liked

Performance Wild AM. It's a better tread than the Force!

So is the force enduro the same as five am?  So bloody confused by all the different names?!

Nope there are Performance and Competition versions of the Wild AM, Force AM and XC if thats what you mean.

Don't shoot the messenger! The nomenclature is Michelins own little stroke of marketing genius, that TBF isn't much worse than all the other bullshit flannel merchants in the industry.

No I mean the force enduro:

https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mobile/michelin-force-enduro-gum-x-ts-tlr-rear-mtb-tyre/rp-prod170181?gs=1&sku=sku641296&pgrid=60711842858&ptaid=pla-681267567332&utm_source=google&utm_term=&utm_campaign=PLA+All+Products&utm_medium=base&utm_content=mkwid%7CsDfLl7TC5_dm%7Cpcrid%7C309840163148%7Cpkw%7C%7Cpmt%7C%7Cprd%7C641296UK&gclid=CjwKCAjwsIbpBRBNEiwAZF8-z8Avf2KdKxK6ZvyEo_KwPNlIP6P45qCHdsJWghGvFGPaZEptULQHsBoCb_YQAvD_BwE

im beyond confused  by them to be honest, I would just buy a rock razor and go back to Mary upfront but schwable only make them in the soft compound

rear in stock at CRC

https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/michelin-wild-enduro-gum-x-ts-tlr-rear-mtb-tyre/rp-prod170179

@ russyh - No they're not the same and believe me the Force tyres are an evolutionary dead end. All the central tread blocks have narrow chamfered and tapered leading edges, which means braking in a straight line, in any kind of wet/loose conditions will see the tyre glide straight on!

You wanted a less draggy rear than the rear specific Enduro. The Performance Wild AM (with it's scaled down tread and lighter carcass) is that tyre in the current Michelin range! It has more broader square leading edges in it's central tread, which means better straight line braking grip than a Force tyre can ever offer, an important trait of a rear tyre!

The Wild AM (the AM part is just stupid) should be offered in what Michelin now call Enduro, christ on a bike they've painted themselves into bit of a mess corner! Almost as bad as Maxxis not initially offering the DHR 2 in dual compound DD (the ideal rear combo for a rear specific tyre arrrrgg FFS) or the Assagai in DD, Exo and the new Exo+, what were they thinking.....

Edit: Hahaha "bit of a mess" that's not how I worded it. Acronym CF!

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