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Having pretty religiously worn merino as a base layer for the last few years, I tried on an old faithful Charlie Manson* recently (25 years old , a different stretchy fabric to the new ones) blimey I'd forgotten how much warmer they are, and dry-feeling.

Merino has it's place (when you can/won't wash it that often) but I think the Charlie's will be getting worn a lot more often.

Anyone else?

*hilarious rhyming slang for Helly Hansen


 
Posted : 28/02/2014 6:40 pm
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Yup. Merino holds water horribly.


 
Posted : 28/02/2014 6:42 pm
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Both. I love Merino for warmth but Lordy it stinks like a sh*t shovellers Duffel bag when wet.


 
Posted : 28/02/2014 6:43 pm
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If it's a really old HH it's probably polypropylene, and i think they're a lot better than the modern polyester ones.

I have several merinos (thanks to daughter's boyfriend working at Rapha) plus an old HH (horizontal white stripes on sleeves) and a Gill. They all have their place, but I can't feel warm after a ride until I swap the base layer for a loose cotton T.

I always find my merino is odour free (either Rapha or Vulpine) but the HH is like an ammonia factory if left overnight.


 
Posted : 28/02/2014 6:48 pm
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HH have apparently gone back to the older-style polypropylene in their designs. I bought one recently which has polypropylene with merino on the outside. Absolutely lovely - I get a sweat on just wearing it in front of the TV 🙂


 
Posted : 28/02/2014 6:52 pm
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After reading all the good things about merino on here a year or two back, I caved-in and bought one just before the mass opinion changed and they were declared as a bit crap (as I found out for myself). I tried older Lifa, worked ok, but didn't age too well. Moved on to Patagonia, which I felt was an improvement, tried merino and discovered all of it's good/bad points, and have settled on a synthetic from The Mountain Warehouse, called Talus Parallel,as the best i've used. As a bonus, it's also the cheapest too, about £8 last time I was there.


 
Posted : 28/02/2014 6:53 pm
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I'm completely unconvinced by the amount of merino products on the market - just like manuka honey - and the merino tops I've had have been nice, but none have been anywhere near as good as good synthetic thermals/ undershirts from assos, sportful, odlo and even decathlon.


 
Posted : 28/02/2014 6:54 pm
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Take a look at Brynje.

I recently washed a batch of base layers and when I pulled them out of the washing machine after the spin cycle I noticed my Brynje vest was almost dry, my HH was damp, and my merino was damper.


 
Posted : 28/02/2014 6:55 pm
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They both have their place, and there are some things I'll pick synthetic over merino, but I still love my merino Ts for the wide range of conditions they work in.


 
Posted : 28/02/2014 7:03 pm
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Sadly I can't find anything out there as good as the old HH fabric. I have 3 originals which I treat as the priceless goods that they are.

I really really wish they still did them.


 
Posted : 28/02/2014 7:07 pm
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I like merino for socks but all the tops I actually wear are synthetic, even the super-cheap synthetics work better than wool imo.


 
Posted : 28/02/2014 7:09 pm
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Yep, Brynje-type merino tops (like string vest) are fantastic. All the warmth of merino with better wicking than most synthetics I've tried. My Aclima Woolnet is my go-to base for proper cold weather but sil doesn't soak through when it gets warmer. Otherwise it's mostly old Hellys for me.


 
Posted : 28/02/2014 7:22 pm
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merino for short stuff like a commute but definitely synthetic for anything serious. Craft is my favourite at the moment.


 
Posted : 28/02/2014 7:29 pm
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merino for touring and pootling rides. rab merino/bamboo stuff to be precise.

north face manmade summit stuff for more energetic stuff, not that I do owt energetic nowadays.


 
Posted : 28/02/2014 7:42 pm
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Merino for everything apart from water proof breathable tops (and shorts). Yes it gets wet but always stays warm. I have 4 different weights depending on how cold it is. Always buy Howies in the sales. My synthetic gear was always getting thrown out by better half because it stank after a year of use, despite high temperature washing.


 
Posted : 28/02/2014 8:17 pm
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Merino tee's for chilling,easy rides to pub etc

Synthetic for anything else. A lot of the best baselayers seem to be polyamide these days also a lot of good ones coming from factories in turkey.


 
Posted : 28/02/2014 8:22 pm
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Get cold quickly in sweaty merino, not quite so bad in bamboo stuff, dirt cheap Decathlon skiing base layer has been my default choice this winter, £5.99, warm, dries quick, not smelly, amazing value


 
Posted : 28/02/2014 8:37 pm
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Agree with above. I was in the merino hype for a few years and got some Craft winter baselayers a few months ago - far better for all but gentle pootle rides or repeated wears without washing, like touring weekends


 
Posted : 28/02/2014 8:40 pm

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