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Looking at new tyres and I'm a bit confused by the Maxxis range…
Riding is a mix of trail centre and some sloppy, root natural stuff and Im running a 29er with Easton ARC 27 rims.
I think based on a few mag reviews etc that a High Roller11 on the front and a Minion DHR11 on the rear might work but in my previous experiences the Minion was a bit draggy to use as a rear - has that changed with the 11 models? I'm also seeing that a few people rate the DHR11 as a good front tyre….
What about the Beaver as a rear in 2.25 model?
And then what about all the other info - TR EXO Dual 60 Maxx Terra etc? I don't really want to be ragging two really slow tyres around!
I didn't find the dhr2 draggy at all on the rear. 2.3in 29er exo 60a version , which is probably the one you're looking at?
Would buy again definitely.
Also love the hr2 as a front tyre. Only other one I'd like to try is a magic Mary, for a bit more ability in the mud.
HR2 front, DHR2 rear doesn't make much sense imo, dhr2 is the knobblier and grippier tyre. It makes sense behind a dhf or a shorty but not much else in their range. It's not so terribly slow in 60a, especially for the job it does and the grip it has, but it's no lightweight. Do like mine, behind either a shorty or the [i]ridiculous[/i] dhf 2.5.
DHR2 saw some use as a front for #enduroists but I think mostly because at the time there was just a lack of choice of good 650b fronts. Not so popular now for that. Never tried it myself though.
Other stuff- TR = tubeless ready, just a very small weight penalty. EXO is puncture protection, bit tougher.
Dual means dual compound I think, 60a means pretty hard compound (basically equivalent to the old Maxxpro) and maxx terra is a softer triple compound.
I'm back on the Shorty (F), DHR2 (R) combo now the weather is turning. Shorty is a fantastic front tyre on everything except hardpack. Could get away with a DHR2 up front too but love the control from the Shorty when I go off-piste or it gets a bit loose.
Tried a HR2 on the back and it wasn't great. OK on the harder surfaces but not much grip, especially climbing, in the wet.
Go for a a 3C on the front, 'normal' compound on the rear.
For BPW I ran a 2.4" ST DHR2 with a ST Griffin on the back. That was a grip-tastic and rolled pretty well.
Thanks for the replies - I had mostly ruled the Shorty out as it's supposed to be 'less good' on hardpack/trail centre surfaces?
Depends what sort of trail centre. Natural, loose stuff the Shorty would be OK but I'd go for the DHR2 in 3C if you want to cover all bases (or a DHF but not quite so good in wet mud).
FWIF I run a Shorty on the Malverns which has hard rock, loose rock, mud, loam, roots etc and I'll leave the Shorty on now til, probably, March.
EXO gives better sidewall protection
TR go up a piece of P tubeless.
groundskeeperwilly - MemberThanks for the replies - I had mostly ruled the Shorty out as it's supposed to be 'less good' on hardpack/trail centre surfaces?
It is- though it's still alright. But it's like cheating in mud/squishy offpiste etc. Just depends where you want to make your compromise really.
I recently put a 2.25'' Beaver on the back of my bike. I was going to go for something bigger and more aggressive, but there is little to no mud clearance in the back of the T129. I'm very impressed with the tyre. Sheds mud quickly and the mini spikes grip nicely- including wet roots. It's also very easy to setup tubeless. I've got a WTB Vigilante 2.3 TCS on the front- feels very similar but a bit more volume. Great combination.
I had mostly ruled the Shorty out as it's supposed to be 'less good' on hardpack/trail centre surfaces?
I just fitted one last week, then took it off again for the PMBA Gisburn race.
It's very very good in mud and loose stuff, but felt a bit skittery on harder trails and roots TBH. And it's very draggy compared to a HR2, for example.
I wish I'd got a Mary instead TBH, would have been better for the mixed terrain round here I think.
PS: Review of HR2...
http://unduro.co.uk/mtb/review-maxxis-high-roller-2/
Will be getting another, for sure.
I've just a hr2 for a nobby nic on the rear of my Codeine , nn seem a bit pressure sensitive but grip and mud shedding is good .
Northwind - MemberDo like mine, behind either a shorty or the ridiculous dhf 2.5.
Are there "old" DHFs and "new" DHFs? I got a 2.4 DHRII for the DH bike, and put a 2.5 DHF on the front. DHF was new stock, and had the newer style logos, but it was noticeably skinnier than the 2.4 on the back. OCD couldn't handle it at all. Replaced with a 2.4 shorty which is wider.
chakaping - were you running the DHR11 on the back in combo with the HR11 on front? Good combo?
Yes great combo. Best I've used.
honourablegeorge - MemberAre there "old" DHFs and "new" DHFs? I got a 2.4 DHRII for the DH bike, and put a 2.5 DHF on the front. DHF was new stock, and had the newer style logos, but it was noticeably skinnier than the 2.4 on the back.
As far as I know, the 26ers are the same old one-size-undersized maxxis carcass as always. But the 29er is more recent and seems more or less the right size, haven't measured mine.
Northwind - MemberAs far as I know, the 26ers are the same old one-size-undersized maxxis carcass as always. But the 29er is more recent and seems more or less the right size, haven't measured mine.
Makes sense I suppose. (Well, it doesn't, but)
The 2.4 HR2 is a very different tyre to the 2.3 HR2, and so much better. More bite than a DHR2 and grips on everything, except heavy mud very well.
HR2 2.4 front and 2.3 DHR2 rear.
Ah- I forgot about the difference with the 2.4. Doesn't apply to the 29er I think, for the OP, we just get the 2.3?
I just stuck some 2.3 DHR11s on both ends of my trail bike. Most of my riding is done on natural, rooty, semi-muddy trails (no trail centre hardpack) and so far the combo seems to do the trick (i was sceptical about the DHR up front, but its been faultless so far).
They are Both in 3C Maxxtera though, so whether they last long will remain to be seen.
Didn't think about that. Sorry. In that case DHR2 both ends, stickier one on the front.
The 2.4 HR2 is a very different tyre to the 2.3 HR2
How so?
the 2.4 is great for rough stuff but the 2.3 is better for fast stuff.
2.3 is TR, 2.4 isn't
2.4 has bigger side and braking knobs, with wider channels between them as well, so it grips in corners and under braking better than the 2.3, as well as being better in mud. The 2.3 felt skittish and didn't have the absolute grip in corners that the 2.4 has got. It's not officially TR, but I've been running them tubeless for 2 years now with no problems at all.