[Closed] Maxxis Chronicle 29x3 - £110

I can see I'll be waiting for the On-One version at £55. If I'm lucky.

Maxxis tyres are expensive.
Fat tyres are expensive.
No great surprise that it's expensive.

Why are Chinese Maxxis tyres now as much not more expensive than handmade German ones?

Oh my flipping lordy. I thought £65 was dorrar spendy for 26" Dirt wizards

Sod that. I'll be going with something 2.4ish and a sensible price till Knard conditions return.

The smaller the niche the higher the price.
You can get a set of floaters for £60 and even schwalbe are doing their new fats about the £70-90 range each. Still not cheap but fat not as pricey as a few years ago.

I've just bought a 120tpi Knard, £53.
That Maxxis [i]must[/i] be good at that price.

Depressing news. Have been waiting for this.
Does it still have the horrible massive logo on?

That. Is. Insane.

Really putting me off getting a fatbike.

No need to worry gofaster, 29x3 (or 29+ or whatever) is not fat it's a whole other niche.

Ooh right- thanks for pointing that out 🙂

And there are other options coming out before too long.

Got a Fatbike (mukluk) and yeah it rides wayyy different than my 29+ (much better!). Think I'm gonna build me a Moonlander when I get cash, I just feel like it 😀 and jeezus that's ripoff! And I thought the Knards were expensive... they are!

cheers_drive - Member

Why are Chinese Maxxis tyres now as much not more expensive than handmade German ones?

Conti handmades have terrible quality control, if they'd let their far eastern factories handle the black chili compounds they'd almost certainly make a better tyre tbh.

I paid 290 euro shipped for my 2x 120tpi knard from singlespeed.nl when they were about the only place left with them when u had a frame/forks/wheels sat here waiting

Profiteering? Hell yes - but supply and demand is it not?

Maxxis will know approx how many compatible frames are out there - why make 10,000 when there is only demand for 100 - just business

Looks like I'll be putting 2.4 Ardents on my Rooster until some cheaper options are available!

I saw this at CTBM and had to pick my jaw off the keyboard. I was hoping they would have been cheaper than Knards!
If I'm correct, that's Knards, Chronicles and..........is there a Vee Rubber?
And where are the Dirt Wizards?!

Was excited about 29+ tyres (and dually rims) too, but after seeing the prices ... chunky monkey on flows will be ok for me and my stooge while waiting for the prices to drop.

Ok it's an expensive tyre but are people really flouncing on an extra £35 (based on Charlie Bikemonger pricing) over a 120TPI Knard ? It's not like you've just spent 10x that on the new Stooge/Rooster etc frame as well as the spangly new dually rims that now adorn the bike.

Rather than trying to actively screw you for as much dollar as possible I suspect Maxxis set the pricing according to forecast sale volumes and whatever their required payback period for a tyre mould is. Tyre mould costs must be fairly standard now but as 29+ is still a tiny minority you end up with a lofty price.

Have you been on one of those marketing/business uni degree thingies? 🙂

Nah, the wife is the brains in our family. Just find it funny how this place reacts when something is released that people desperately want and find out that it's not going to cost them £6 and half a pack of sweets.

Oh come on you can't compare the frame to a consumable item like tyres. Please advise me what I should spend in oil or inner tubes?

I simply don't understand this. It's maxxis. I was expecting £65 tops rrp. Are you sure that's not for 2? That's why it was exciting maxxis were moving in. They would be bringing costs down. Sheesh. Not really feeling the industry get behind 29+

... but there is a difference between expensive and a ripoff.
I fully understand that sometimes being an early adopter is not the most financially sound decision 🙂

theres a lot more rubber, so the price will be higher, there is a £99 version but thats not as headline grabbing as the £110 version 😉

I'm sure it will be discounted a bit more at other outlets

It was more the additional cost of this tyre compared to the total build I was getting at, especially when folk seem to be falling over themselves throwing cash around to get hold of this new wonder frame. And how often do you replace a front tyre on something like a Stooge if you're not hammering through bike parks every weekend, once a year?

I don't see why its hard to understand. A company of the size of Maxxis will have to present a business case for the design and release of a new tyre. That will be based on the cost of production plus and the number of units they expect to sell within whatever timeframe they use. You would assume that as it's Maxxis the cost of production is fairly standardised however how many 29+ tyres are they going to sell? It will be a tiny minority. Add to that the fact there is no competition in this space, assuming the chronicle is decent in the mud. Maxxis is a company, run to make profit, not to keep you enjoying your hobby as cheaply as possible. Whether people buy it will determine whether the price is reasonable. At some point it will be reduced but that will be when Maxxis have reached breakeven or competition forces them to change the model.

Edit:

I'm sure it will be discounted a bit more at other outlets

Yes, when buying bits that Charlie stocks I've rarely found him to be the cheapest and as i'm not local to him I have no real ties and so google around. I get a 10% discount at my local bike shop so that immediately brings it below £100....

I think you can get some idea of how Maxxis pricing stacks up by comparing an Ardent EXO with an O-O 'Ekso' tyre. Maxxis make great tyres imo but they're expensive. There's times when I'm 'happy' to pay for them though, some of their tyres are the best options out there by far. If I'd just invested in going 29+ F+F and wheels I'd want good tyres to back it all up, sod the cost for now.

The industry isn't really fully 'behind' 29+ as there's currently 5 MTB wheel/tyre-rim formats with a fair bit of overlap and while it's great for creative small brands it's a PITA for big brands who create the real volume. 29+ is still a couple of years behind where fat bikes have got to and like Giant moving to 650B probably based largely on fitting most of their customers on their bikes, 29+ may end up being the big-guy option as 650B+ becomes more widespread. Maybe. With a ~740mm OD I'd back 650B+ if I was investing in semi-fat bikes, yet I can see 29+ performing better for much of what I'd want a 3" tyre for. Tricky.

Panaracer and Vee Tyre have 29+ options now so competition will create better value.

how many 29+ tyres are they going to sell?

So tempted to buy one of these. Probably worth an extra £10 for the Exo version.

Depending how soft they are they might last two sloppy winter seasons? Giving it's muddy and wet they shouldn't wear as quick or at least that's my experience. So £110 over two 'years'.. might be able to justify that.

.....£220 you need 2

[s]Un[/s]Luckily my Stooge won't fit a 29+ in the back!

True, but consider that their 29" tyre sales are split over more than 250 SKUs (a guess - could be more). 29+ is covered by just 2.

Sorry, what's an SKU? Trying to understand what you're saying in simpleton terms!

anyone getting on these?

http://www.nextie-bike.com/fat-bike/29-inch-wheels-50mm

SKU? stock keeping unit - i.e. how many different versions there is

Ardent
Adent EXO
Crossmark
Crossmark UST

etc

^^^ Ta

SKU - stock keeping unit, ie a coded product. 1 tyre in 2 sizes and 2 casing levels is 4 SKUs.

they might last two sloppy winter seasons?

they still have no idea regarding the dirt wizard

http://fat-bike.com/2014/09/sov-from-surly-talks-29-and-5-knard/

Wow - the Dirt Wizzard looks incredible, (that 5" Knard looks HUGE) I'll wait for that I think, the Chronicle doesn't have the look of a mud tyre to me . I think there's a Bontrager tyre coming that looks good for mud.

The Dirt Wizard looks much better as a winter tyre. It's also significantly cheaper. I'll wait for them I think.

Don't you think that's a pretty lame attitude from that video chap

Yes but I generally find the whole Surly style approach quite irritating. They're just soooo cool.......albeit their Bud tyre is great 😳

Typical Surly BS - I reckon they've got a mountain of Knards to sell off before they release the DW 😉 I'm interested that the dirt Wizard is bigger than expected too!

Suck it up.

The pricing is 'inspirational and aspirational'.

You don't HAVE to buy one.

All responses I've received over the past few years re massive, unjustified price increases.

Don't start complaining now that the manufacturers have started targeting those with a bit more cash.

Chronicle's will be £59 or £69 depending whether you go for the 60tpi or 120 tpi casing. Due mid October. Not sure where the £100+ price has come from, but they aren't.

[url= http://www.charliethebikemonger.com/maxxis-chronicle-29-29x3-tyre-5397-p.asp ]From here[/url]

Good to know the prices will be more in line with the other 29+ options.

Sideways Tim - any info on the other 29+ tyres that are coming???

Suck it up.

The pricing is 'inspirational and aspirational'.

You don't HAVE to buy one.

All responses I've received over the past few years re massive price increases.

Don't start complaining now that the manufacturers have started targeting those with a bit more cash.

But but but ITS A TYRE! a maxxis tyre! a thing thats designed to wear out from a large mainstream company in a rim size we've had for decades but just a bit bigger bead to bead.

I live in the western world, i get set up costs, niche premimum, brand engineering etc. but this is like ford suddenly charging ferrari prices for a stretched focus.

😕

edit:

Chronicle's will be £59 or £69 depending whether you go for the 60tpi or 120 tpi casing. Due mid October. Not sure where the £100+ price has come from, but they aren't.

Thank god for that, the world hasn't gone mad, i'm off for a lie down in a dark place 😆

Tough.

They've been doing this for a few years now.
So far, it's only affected those of us who struggle to keep bikes going.

Now it looks like it might just start affecting the Audi drivers, it's suddenly outrageous.

Sideways Tim - any info on the other 29+ tyres that are coming???

What would you like to know?

Sideways Tim - Member
Chronicle's will be £59 or £69 depending whether you go for the 60tpi or 120 tpi casing. Due mid October. Not sure where the £100+ price has come from, but they aren't.

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And breathe...

Well, that is good karmic news indeed

Looks like CTBM's past marketing career got the better of him

Maxxis is one of the best examples of marketing around.

You do all realise Maxxis is just a brand owned and produced by Chen Shin Tyres, yup, them crap tyres you had your bike as a kid.

Im really surprised no one has picked up CST Tyres as a brand in the UK as they are re-badged Maxxis tyres, or the other way round if you like and ok they have a different tread pattern but i bet there is some decent models in the range, plus you don't pay Maxxis premium.

I picked up a folding 2.4 version off ebay for £4 delivered and can confirm, other than a different tread pattern everything else is identical, even the packaging

maybe Raleigh have the rights which means Accell have them so they will soon be specced on Lapierres! (probably not but maybe)

I think 18 Bikes have tried CST in the past.

I've always found maxxis the cheapest of the major brands anyway. Thats why everyone buys maxxis isnt it?

Don't mean to hijack the thread, but you guys were talking about Vee 29+ tyres? Can't find any at ALL in the uk?? 🙁

Strada wheels seem to get Vee stuff so maybe worth giving them a ring albeit think they only have the fatbike tyre on their website.

Have Vee made a descent tyre yet though? Always a first time I suppose!,!

The Chronicle looks too similar to the Knard to me, i'm going to wait on the 3" Dirt Wizard which looks the better mud option.

I'm taking pre-orders on Chronicles now if you want to ensure getting some! £65 for 120tpi EXO, £55 for 60tpi. sam@singularcycles.com

Don't you think that's a pretty lame attitude from that video chap

I'm taking pre-orders on Chronicles now if you want to ensure getting some! £65 for 120tpi EXO, £55 for 60tpi. sam@singularcycles.com

Sam (or anyone) are they both tubeless ready and folding bead?

And is that your kickstarter price? 😉

Hoped they'd be even more expensive then the less obese tyres might become cheaper?

YGM Sam 😀

The Chronicle looks too similar to the Knard to me, i'm going to wait on the 3" Dirt Wizard which looks the better mud option

+1

Sam - I mailed you about paying the balance for the Dually rims but haven't heard anything - I think I'm going to need a pair of Chronicles as well!

Eddie - they are both folding bead but not officially designated TR. From experience with other Maxxis EXO tyres they should still tubeless up fine.

Steve - sorry about that, must have somehow missed it, could you please re-send?

Sam - YHM

more dirt wizard stuff

http://surlybikes.com/blog/post/

Bah!

Used my 29+ Surly Knards in the mud this morning and they were surprisingly ok, set at 10psi on the Rabbit Hole rims they gripped pretty well round our local loamy woodland singletrack, only the wet roots were sketchy but I'm yet to find a tyre of any size or shape that makes much difference on those. I'm gonna stick with them until the nobblier 29+ options are available. Looks like the Maxxis Chronicle might be hitting these shores any day soon, but I'm not sure it'll be that different from the Knards, it just looks like an oversized Ardent to me which is not a mud tyre.

I'm not sure where the £110 price tag came from. I've got a pair of Maxxis Chronicles ordered for delivery next week at £58 each (still expensive I agree but understandable as it's quite a small-volume niche market).

I did a descent last night on knards and pretty much bricked myself. Narrow ledge with a huge steep drop to one side. They just aquaplane/glide/sledge down any wet muddy puddly bits. Did the whole thing prepared to leap off to the safe side. They are fine on everything else, including wet roots. Waiting for my EXO chronicles to come at the end of the month as they will be going on tubeless. £68 from Charlie the Bike Monger. Pricey but that's the going rate for fat and 29+ tyres.

Hopefully the Chronicles will be an improvement 😐

Will let you know soon, my Chronicle EXOs have just arrived from Charlie the Bikemonger. Woop woop.

Mine arrived today too. The tread looks like an oversize 2.4" Maxxis Ardent which is no bad thing in my opinion. Pretty aggressive side nobbles and lots of sipes which should provide more consistent grip than the Knards. Doesn't feel overly heavy either but I haven't weighed it yet.

We need pics 🙂

The £110 price tag was what CTBM had them up for on his site. Pre-release and actual price

Yeah, the Knards are pretty deadly in the mud

Got mine on my stooge last week, come up a bit bigger than knard with a flatter profile and some decent side lugs. Still not full mud monster but, they do actually ride a hell of a lot better than the knards. Casing is nice and supple on the non exo, the exo feels a lot stiffer. Tubeless up easily and aren't to growly on road sections.

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They're right nice. Plenty in stock, but all the Exo ones have gone.

Look like Transformers too.

Tim - what are the Mammoths looking like? I've been waiting for a HuDu replacement...

Hang on Tazzy - you've been all over these - exo & non - and didn't update us?? 😉

Too busy chuntering on the fat bike thread 🙂

Seriously, I'm looking for a Knard replacement for the Stooge and this seems like the one

What are you using (exo or not?)

Tubeless up easily

on what rim?

Bonesetter..my tyre updates n so on have been all over facebook on the groups for proper cyclists n stuff like onecog, rather than the netmums on bikes that is silly track 😉

Not my fault you lot are way behind the curve