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[Closed] Marin Indian Firetrail '94 stem+headset+forks confusion 🙂

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Hi guys,

A friend of mine owns this Marin from the early '90. It has a quill stem originally with a threaded headset and a set of marzocchi 700 forks, probably with a 1" threaded steerer. He wants to replace his forks as he loves the bike. Is it possible to fit a different headset so it could take a 1 1/8 steerer and an ahead stem, or is there not enough space for that in the frame?

If he needs to stick with the traditional 1" threaded steerer what would be a good option as a replacement fork?

Way too confused here.. 🙂

Many thanks!
Gabs


 
Posted : 27/06/2014 9:18 am
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I had a 1990 Pine Mountain and I fitted a standard set of 1 1/8 bouncy forks to it + aheadset so it should be fine.

As to what fork, I have no idea as its probably 5 years since I bought a new set of forks.


 
Posted : 27/06/2014 9:25 am
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if it has a 1" steerer then he wont be able to fit a larger 1 1/8th fork in the frame as it wont fit.
you need to check that the frame has definitely got a 1" head tube and not a 1 1/8th one.
if its the latter then you can fit a standard 1 1/8th headset and fork to the frame although the frame geometry would only allow you to fit a 100mm fork.
i had a 96 eldridge grade that came with a 1 1/8th head tube


 
Posted : 27/06/2014 9:25 am
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I'm pretty sure it's 1 1/8 inch.The LBS just had one in & put a newer fork on it.


 
Posted : 27/06/2014 9:34 am
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According to the '94 catalogue it had a 1 1/8th Ritchey Logic headset so it should be fine.

It is entirely possible that I have an original Marin Ovation threadless stem & bars if he wants to keep it in period. 😉

In fact, there may even be some Marin/Mavic wheels in the garage that are both rim & disc brake compatible.


 
Posted : 27/06/2014 9:38 am
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Yeah, as kiwijohn, pretty sure it's 1-1/8". I had an Indian Fire Trail of a fairly similar vintage, raw silver frame, purple decals with Manitou 2's on it. I got the LBS to strip the headset out and stuck an A-Head, Marz MXCs and a new stem on it. A mate is still riding that frame a good 7 years after I sold it on!


 
Posted : 27/06/2014 9:38 am
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Pretty sure a '94 was 1 1/8th. Can't open this catalogue as on my phone but this will say for sure. He'd be looking to get something like an older Sid I would say as the bike would be designed around a 63mm fork and anything more than that might affect the handling. Some older 80mm Sids can be reduced down to 63mm.

http://www.retrobike.co.uk/gallery2/v/Manufacturer+Archive/Marin/Catalogues/1994.pdf.html


 
Posted : 27/06/2014 9:38 am
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An 80mm will be fine. I think it's a myth that a 20mm longer fork will screw up the handling. I have a 95 DBR Axis TT with a 80mm Fox & it makes no difference. I could have gone for a 100mm.


 
Posted : 27/06/2014 9:51 am
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I have an early 90's Marin Muirwoods and its got an 1 1/8th headtube so the 94 bike will be the same. I've fitted an aheadset/threadless forks to mine.

The only issue you'll have when fitting suspension forks is getting something that will suit the geometry of the bike.


 
Posted : 27/06/2014 9:52 am
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Thanks guys! 🙂 I managed to open up the '94 catalogue mentioned up here and it says the same as you lot that it should be 1 1/8. Really good news. Now I will start looking at options. I'm sure i will get caught out pretty soon with what kind of headset... 🙂


 
Posted : 27/06/2014 9:58 am
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AFAIK the first Aluminium Marins came with 1 1/8" headsets and came out in 1990 / 91.


 
Posted : 27/06/2014 10:02 am
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Does this look like a good option for the forks?

https://www.greyville.com/products/8510-s2470-sr-suntour-sf13-xct-v4-mlo-v-26-suspension-fork?store_referer=true#.U61CDV4mUds

thanks


 
Posted : 27/06/2014 10:07 am
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the bottom option with the ahead option..


 
Posted : 27/06/2014 10:08 am
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for the headset I've found this. It looks like it should all work together fine, right? 🙂

http://www.halfords.com/cycling/cycling-parts/headsets/fsa-orbit-equipe-1-1-8-headset


 
Posted : 27/06/2014 10:13 am
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On this very subject, please forgive me a naive ( perhaps) question, as I m looking at something similar on a 97 GT.

Do I simply measure the inside diameter of the head tube itself for being 1 1/8 " ?

Can't believe I'm doubting what I should be doing , but nevertheless ... 😳


 
Posted : 27/06/2014 10:15 am
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I've got a nice pair of Manitou Magnum R elastomer 80mm forks knocking about if they're any use?
10 years younger than the bike, but they'll fit fine.


 
Posted : 27/06/2014 10:28 am
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Thanks guys! I'll let my friend know about the parts offered here, stem, bars and forks..

Cakeface.. that's kind of where I got lost myself.. 🙂


 
Posted : 27/06/2014 11:10 am

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