[Closed] Magura Vyron Dropper

Had a Vyron for 5+ years and like it lots. The delay is weird but you get used to it.
Small amount of play in it but don't notice when riding.
It's been back to Magura twice but no charge either time and free return post. Very quick, less than a week from sending to having back in my hand.

I've had mine since 2016. So far no issues at all with it, think I'm only on my second remote battery. Yes not the fasted after the button press however for the bike it has been on most of the time this is not an issue (and the newer ones are faster anyway). My take is if you are riding trails you know or doing longer distance stuff where you don't/won't be adjusting the seat height at short intervals then its a complete non issue. If you doing super tech stuff blind at speed or making adjustments every minute or more then its not the post for you. Mine is fitted to the bike I do long rides on into the New forest or SDW. Those routes typically you know well in advance that your going to want the seat down so there is no panic mashing of the button. That bikes is also used around my local woods which I've ridden so many times now that the saddle is squared away almost instinctively.

For the bike you have and the fact you don't already have a dropper suggests for you it will probably be just fine.

Like weeksy I also have slight play but every single dropper I've ever owned or ridden has done that to some extent (Multiple reverbs, fox transfer, pnw, brand x, magura, KS lev).

Weeksy, Nixie,

Huge thanks. Out of interest, what drop did you go for? It's for a XC bike so I would have thought the 100mm would do fine but I wonder what difference the 150mm would make.

Dogsby

150mm here.

150 wasn't about when I got mine, I think it's 125

I can't think of any disadvantage of the 150mm and the price appears the same so will probably go for that.

If it's a choice between the two & the consideration is 'what is best' then there is literally no contest. The Reverb AXS is brilliant bit of kit. I would run one if they did a 200mm drop - but i'm too used to the OneUp 210mm to give it up.

I borrowed a bike with a Vyron. I can't think of any redeeming feature to it. The 'button' to hit is tiny so it's bloody hard to get in the first place, coupled with the delay in the post working (or not) resulted in some good old panic mashing when coming in hot to a section at a race & nearly having a great crash. That set the tone for the few weeks I had the bike for. I actually gave up with it after a while & threaded a different post in, because I wanted something that worked.

With the twin lock system & the way it integrates into the grip lock ring, I don't think you stand a way of using the magura remote - it uses the brake clamp to stabilise itself & there isn't the space there.

Which, based on how shyte it is, is a result. Buy the Reverb.

Sounds like the earlier button, with the later button its much easier to hit.

I’ve got one. I debated getting the AXS Reverb to match my gears but the price differential was too much to ignore.
The newer ones come with a shroud that goes over the remote to turn it into a big single button for the dropper.
I don’t really notice the delay. What I did notice is the difference in how you press. With a ‘normal’ post you press, sit then release. With the Vyron you tap and release, then sit. For the first few rides I was holding it down and wondering why it wasn’t moving at all.

Should compare yours to mine at some point Matt to see how much quicker it is.

also a Vyron user (100mm on xc) - not had any issues finding the button (with shroud) and I tend to be fairly deliberate in using a dropper so the slight delay isn't a problem
the easy fit is a massive plus

I've had one for 3 years, sent it back to Magura for an estimate on how much it would be to sort out a bit of a rattle at the top end & i got a brand new one FOC, so cant fault the service at all. The new button is loads better than the old smaller one. Yes there is a delay but you get used to it. Although from what i've read the reverb axs is the better of the 2. I was going to flog the new vyron & get a reverb, but couldn't stomach the extra wedge just for a seat post.

Cheers All,

Ordered the 150mm from Merlin. Couldn't see a reason not to get the 150 over the 125 or 100 as they appear to be the same weight and price. Couldn't see if it comes with the new shroud for the button but can always pick one up if it doesn't.

I would really liked the Reverb as I have a long term plan to convert to AXS but the lack of compatability with the Spark and the cost sealed it.

Thanks for the advice; really useful

Dogsby

I've not used one, but I don't think I could deal with the delay/how it extends - if you want to have the post 70% up for example, which I do a lot on pedally trails with some turns, you have to hover over the saddle to stop it with your bum at the height you require...

If's just going be used either fully dropped or fully extended that may not be an issue but it would be for me.

SRAM just need to release a 200mm AXS reverb.

which I do a lot on pedally trails with some turns, you have to hover over the saddle to stop it with your bum at the height you require

Do other droppers work differently for that then? Usual for me is to do that on way down and just push it down a bit instead of a lot

well, down or up on the vyron is the same I gather - going down you have to press, wait, push down, then hold it at the required height until the valve closes.

Going up you have to press, put bum in position, stop seat when it reaches required position, hold it there until the valve closes?

Correct?

Cable droppers you can either raise it slowly, or part of the way, or both - or drop it part of the way - all by releasing the lever when the post is at the required height.

From what I understand, the vyron's valve opens for a set amount of time when you press the button, and you can't change that. Which frankly, sucks.

From pinkbike:

The Vyron doesn't behave exactly like a 'normal' dropper post. On most droppers you push a remote lever of some sort, lower the seat to where you want it with your body weight, and then release the lever to lock it in place. That's not the case with Vyron.

Instead, you push and release the remote button, and then there's a .5 second window to lower the seat. What if you push the button, weight the seat, and then unweight it in less than .5 seconds? That's right, it starts to raise back up, which is my biggest gripe with the Vyron. It's simply not as easy or as intuitive to use as a 'standard' dropper post, especially if you're riding somewhere with terrain that requires raising and lowering your seat more than a couple times.

So it opens for half a second. If the seat isn't at the height you want it at the end of that time, you have to try again. That would do my head in.

The AXS seatpost may be a lot more expensive (£150 more?) but they nailed the action of raising/dropping the post. The moment you press or release the button, the valve opens or closes.

Correct?

Basically yes.

But, you get to know it's actuator time, you know when the sequence us over, so you push push/hold until just before, so whilst it's not instant it's not a 5s delay either, it becomes instinct and you just know when it's done.

I do get your point, but it's less of an issue than you'd expect.

I am not an avid up down up down kind of rider like some though, I'll accept a section where it's down longer than some may think is optimal.

I've had a Vyron for 5 1/2 years.

The delay annoyed me at first, I got used to it. I rarely have the post midway.
The button size annoyed me. I got the paddle / shroud.
The rubber band attachment is a bit flimsy.
I run the remote between my grip and brake lever so the body covers the brake clamp.

After 2 years a seal went so it was sent to Magura who replaced it. Out of warranty.
I kicked the battery off, again Magura replaced for free.
I had an issue which they said appeared to be water ingress to the electrics, replaced free of charge.

It goes up and down with a slight delay but you get used I to it.going between bikes and droppers I don't find the delay an issue.

5.5 years, didn't realise they've been out that long!

I'm sure the delay is something you'd get used to, like anything.

Shame there's not a bit more competition, Fox would be the next viable brand to release a leccy dropper, but all they've done is slightly change the seat clamp shape for this year. And still no 200mm version 🙁

I'm surprised more companies haven't jumped on the leccy bandwagon too.