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[Closed] Made a video, need some help making it better!

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So, been making a few videos recently; latest one is here clicky

I'm slowly getting better at the editing process, at the moment its being done on an ipad.
Can anyone recommend some (preferably free) PC editing software that's reasonably idiot proof?

cheers!
Jim.

p.s. like and subcribe n all that!


 
Posted : 07/06/2020 4:23 pm
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If you have a Mac then iMovie will get you a long way without paying a penny.


 
Posted : 07/06/2020 4:28 pm
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Alas, PC here. Imovie on the ipad though. Space is the biggest problem I have there!


 
Posted : 07/06/2020 4:32 pm
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It eats space on the Mac as well.

From the Wiki thing;

What replaced Movie Maker in Windows 10?
Discontinuation and replacement
Movie Maker was officially removed for download on January 10, 2017. Like Windows Photo Gallery from Windows Essentials, Movie Maker is now replaced by the Microsoft Photos App included in Windows 10, which includes Video Editor (formerly Windows Story Remix).

Be warned, there seems to be a common thing for people tracking down a free version of the old movie maker. There may be safe options, but there are a lot of hits about bug/virus ridden nastiness.....


 
Posted : 07/06/2020 4:36 pm
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Davinci resolve from blackmagic,

for a freebie it’s really powerful.


 
Posted : 07/06/2020 5:47 pm
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It looks to me as though you can edit it well enough. If you want to make it better I'd suggest:

  • Reduce its length. Maybe 2-3mins unless you have something really interesting to say, explain or demonstrate.
  • Cut the length of each shot down. Any shot longer than a few seconds needs to be remarkable.
    Use different camera angles and mix them up.
  • Maybe set the camera up on a tripod and get close-ups of a tyre going over roots or through puddles etc.
  • Take some shots with you in the distance.
  • Think about the sound. Some of your commentary is quite hard to hear over the noise of the bike which is not very interesting or varied, so I'd reduce the sound volume from the tyres and bike. Experiment with adding sound effects such as birds etc. It's surprising what a difference it makes but keep it subtle.

I know you're not aiming to produce a Hollywood blockbuster but you should probably pretend to do exactly that. Storyboard the whole film. Maybe include brief shots of getting the bike ready, putting your shoes on etc. Think about the sound. You could record a commentary later or use some music and mix it with the recorded sounds. See how other people have done it and start by copying them. There's a reason you don't see many good films of ordinary rides and that's because it's an awful lot of work to produce one.

From my very limited experience you'll have to do this just to get your family to watch. It'll need to be even better if you want the rest of us to watch. There's lots of help on YouTube.

This is much better than any advice you'll get from me: Shoot Video That Doesnt Suck


 
Posted : 07/06/2020 6:07 pm
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Really helpful points, cheers!

*goes off to plan the next one with military precision.


 
Posted : 07/06/2020 7:17 pm
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Maybe include brief shots of getting the bike ready, putting your shoes on etc.

Don't do this. Who wants to watch someone putting their shoes on? Not me for sure. If I'm going to watch a bike video I want to see bike riding 😉

Of course that depends on who think you want your audience to be. Just mountain bikers? Or gravel adventure riders? Or any/all cyclists? Or general outdoors people maybe?

The main thing I got from the video, was all the trails you went down were pretty much straight and featureless as far as viewing is concerned. Edit: Less chest cam shots of the ride and include more static or panaramic shots of surrounding countryside.

Using the Olive video editor here.

Disclaimer: I'm not in anyway a successful video producer or youtuber.


 
Posted : 07/06/2020 7:26 pm
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I thought the track in the first half of the video looked familiar. The family of my neighbor own Coombes farm and Passies Ponds. I've been down to stay with them a couple of times and been up there looking at the farm and stock. Looks like the trails were running spot on.


 
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Posted : 08/06/2020 8:16 am
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Don’t do this. Who wants to watch someone putting their shoes on? Not me for sure. If I’m going to watch a bike video I want to see bike riding 😉

It goes with the "Any shot longer than a few seconds needs to be remarkable." bit, a shot of you pulling laces tight, putting a wheel in, or whatever is probably <1s long, a handful of those together sets the story much better than a 60 second monologue about going riding.

In fact unless it's absolutely spectacular I'd avoid shots based around the riding at all. We've all seen films by the collective and NWD, some chest cam footage of gravel tracks just isn't going to be that interesting after that.

If you want to convey the idea of a nice day out on the South Downs, imagine you're taking some photographs of the South Downs, then have the bike ride through them.

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I just spent 30s watching static shots of a man getting a bike out of a garage.

Either the man is a genius for making such things watchable, or I've just wasted 30s of my life and he's made the idea of going for a bike ride feel like a faff.

Which to be fair it is. Last time I went out with the intention of filming it took 2 hours, I covered 5 miles (of which 3 were getting to the woods and back), took 3 cameras, and produced about 40s of video (which IMO was watchable). And I still wasn't happy with a lot of the shots.


 
Posted : 08/06/2020 10:06 am

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