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Hello, I have a Lyrik RCT3 170mm and I'm stay in a doubt of if I put tokens or not. My weight with all accessories is a 75 Kg approximately.
In what cases should the Tokens be used?
Thanks ;).
Up! :).
From what I understand: If sag is set correctly but you tend to bottom out a lot, then put an extra token.
If I have the right SAG and I don't tend to bottom, I do not need Tokens?. The Tokens do not make the fork more progressive?.
it's personal preference.
I have a 170mm Lyrik. I run the fork with no tokens.
The fork offers plenty of midstroke support and doesn't botom out. infact it rarely uses the last 20mm of travel. But does on the biggest of hits/mistakes.
I don't like loads of Sag. Don't really need massive amounts of small bump compliance and don't want the spring rate to be any more progressive.
You may want something entirely different to me.
Play around with your fork settings and find what you like. If you do add tokens you will also need to alter spring pressure.
Have you tried with and without Tokens?.
How much you weight and how many does the PSI do you have?
gontxonos
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If I have the right SAG and I don’t tend to bottom, I do not need Tokens?.
No.
but as geex comments. It depends what you want from the fork so maybe play about with it a little. Maybe add 1x token to your current set up or try a little more sag, a little less air, more rebound but one token.
I run 25% sag and I'm about 85kg kitted up running 1x token, 55psi, quite a quick rebound and think 4 clicks or LSC. Forks are quite active and get to use all but the last 5mm on medium drops (4ft) and decent jumps
I tried 2x tokens but was ramping up a bit, leaving 20-25mm of travel unused. So took one out.
A bit of trial and error is really the only way
I don’t tend to bottom even carrying a Token, this means that it would go better without Tokens?
It's worth taking it out and seeing what the results are for you. You may need to adjust the rebound and compression, but how you want the the fork to feel is a personal thing
Yes, but SRAM says that they put 1 token to the Lyrik to make it better...
so why give you spare ones when you buy the fork?? It's set up for the average Joe and the fork has the tunability available to set it up how the individual prefers
1x token might work, 0x tokens might be better, who knows... Only you once you've tried.
if I was 15kg heavier, I'm sure the set up I'm running would be different and I might be running another token to prevent bottom out on the bigger drops and stuff. But I'd be able to maintain suppleness and have an active firm
So, I must try with 0 Tokens, right?.
You've nothing to loose, so defo worth a try and only take 5 mins to remove/add tokens anyway
Good starter for 10
Yes. I have tried the fork with and without tokens.
it came with tokens installed.
I run the fork with 75-80psi - No tokens (18-20% sag)
I'm 10kg heavier than Carlos but even if we weighed the same our preferences are not. Meaning my actual set-up is fairly irrelivent to his. As will yours be.
Play around with the pressure and tokens until you are happy. removing/adding tokens is a pretty quick procedure.
Try to leave compression settings full open until you find the pressure/token configuration that gives you closest to spring rate/characteristic and sag/max travel you want. Do set rebound roughly to taste though. Then once you have the spring as you'd like it go back and fine tune comp/rebound.
Write down settings if it helps.
I generally spend a bit of time finding a base setting on a new fork I'm happy with at home (well outside it) before I take it for its first proper ride. I'm generally in the correct ball park from there but I will continue to make small changes each ride for the first few rides until happy.