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Having done a couple races on a borrowed bike, it's probably time I looked for my own (already guilty about the quagmire of rnd 1 followed by sand of rnd 2). Budget at the moment would be £1k, open to 2nd hand but must have discs. Hydro preferred but not a deal breaker, same with running 1x up front.

So far I've looked at:

Vitus Energy VR - very good spec, just over budget with BC discount
Merida CX 500 - same as I've borrowed. Spec is ok, but cable and 2x. Rides well though
Genesis Vapour CX 20 - ruled out as the downtube (exposed) cable routing is stupid
Boardman CX Team - well specc'd and just over £800 with BC discount. Seems heavy though?

Anyone know of any others that I should look at?

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Posted : 11/10/2017 12:17 pm
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Planet X / on-one ?


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 12:19 pm
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GT grade 105, a few threads on here about it.


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 12:20 pm
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Planet X / on-one ?

Nothing that matches the Vitus (at the moment, will keep an eye out for a sale)

Will have a look at the GT


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 12:23 pm
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Not sure about a Grade for cyclocross. It's a gravel bike, and one from the road-focussed end of the spectrum too. Think the OP would be better with a CX bike.


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 12:27 pm
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Boardman CX Team - well specc'd and just over £800 with BC discount. Seems heavy though?

I have the cx team, for what I paid I'm delighted with it and I love 1*11. For that price getting hydro brakes is a great deal.

Wheels are chunky but they'll be replaced soon enough.


 
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Have a look at Focus.


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 12:30 pm
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I have a Boardman CX which I've been thinking about selling. Lovely bike, but I just don't use it enough. Couple of small marks/some cable rub on top of fork, but other than that in an "as new" condition. Looking for £500. PM me if its of interest.


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 12:30 pm
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The Boardman is a great bike. You'll see lots at races. I'm on 10,000km on mine (one rebuild), supplied wheels are ok and will get you racing. Mine held its own through 14 races (so far) this year and is great value, especially if you apply the BC discount.


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 12:35 pm
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Not sure about a Grade for cyclocross. It's a gravel bike, and one from the road-focussed end of the spectrum too. Think the OP would be better with a CX bike.

Not that I own one, but there really isn't a huge amount of difference, TBH I think they try to create differences to encourage N+1. The only CXish issue I can see is the large front chain ring.


 
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Sent a pm


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 12:41 pm
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Have a look at Focus

There’s a Mares alu for sale not far from me at the moment. Hybrid brakes (which seem ok?) and Tiagra. He’s wanting £650 which seems a little too much?


 
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great value, especially if you apply the BC discount.

The issue with the boardman is that you never know when to buy from halfords. When I bought mine it was reduced to £800, which with bc discount, halfords voucher bought through benefits deal at work and quidco it came in at just over £600 which is a total stael.


 
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Not that I own one, but there really isn't a huge amount of difference, TBH I think they try to create differences to encourage N+1. The only CXish issue I can see is the large front chain ring.

A CX bike would typically have racier geometry, a higher BB height and narrower tyre clearances. It may even have the cables running along the top if the cross tube so they don't get in the way whilst you shoulder the bike. Designed to be fast and agile to ride for an hour between the tapes.

A gravel bike would typically have greater tyre clearances, more stable geometry, a normal BB height. Designed to be ridden for all kinds of things.

Not to say you couldn't race a gravel bike in a cx race, and I have done, or ride a CX bike across the Alps, but if you're buying a bike to do one specific job it makes sense to get one optimised for that rather than optimised for something else. In the same way you wouldn't buy an endurance road bike to time trail on, or a downhill MTB for XC.


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 1:54 pm
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Nothing that matches the Vitus (at the moment, will keep an eye out for a sale)

XLA has pretty much identical spec?

The Boardman does look stonking value though.


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 2:21 pm
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XLA would cost more than the Vitus (plus BC discount) iirc?

Really need to go to Halfords and try and convince myself


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 2:25 pm
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Low end £1k?
Low end is secondhand at £150.


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 3:24 pm
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£1k (max) for a race bike compared to turning up with two £5k carbonz mega-bikes.


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 3:26 pm
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Low end is secondhand at £150.

No that's a pub bike


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 3:48 pm
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What size are you after got a 54cm planet x xls for sale.

Cheers


 
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A CX bike would typically have racier geometry, a higher BB height and narrower tyre clearances. It may even have the cables running along the top if the cross tube so they don't get in the way whilst you shoulder the bike. Designed to be fast and agile to ride for an hour between the tapes.

A gravel bike would typically have greater tyre clearances, more stable geometry, a normal BB height. Designed to be ridden for all kinds of things.

I agree with you in principle, but the reality is that they often don't have any differences at all. very similar BB height, head angle,reach and chainstays etc.

Take the GT Grade, it's labeled as a gravel bike but I believe it only takes tyre widths up to 35mm and the BB drop is only 1mm different from a specialized crux.

You need to look at the geometry of each bike and decide whether it fits firmly in one camp or is just badged to hit a market segment.


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 4:00 pm
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What size are you after got a 54cm planet x xls for sale.

Cheers

Tell me more.....


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 5:01 pm
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What size are you after?


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 5:13 pm
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54cm (or 53 for the likes of Boardman)


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 5:26 pm
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Just sent you a pm.


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 5:37 pm
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Sent you a PM

Cheers Bolt


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 6:26 pm
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Not fancy a cross race Bolt? Chipping was nice and "dry" last weekend.....


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 6:31 pm
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A week ago, the Charge Grinduro at Wiggle, but it's gone from £510 to ~£875! 😯


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 6:38 pm
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No thanks Mick, probably the right size for Thomas?


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 7:43 pm
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Thomas sorted thanks 🙂


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 8:04 pm
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Scott speedster (gravel) 20 disc, £1099 just swap tyres.
Same frame as CX.


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 8:37 pm
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Diamondback do one- DO NOT BUY IT.


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 8:47 pm
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Biketradein works as a 10% code on the halfords website at the moment.

Dunno if that means yoi have to take an old bso in with you or if you can add BC discount.


 
Posted : 11/10/2017 10:02 pm
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boardman cx team has done well for me. bikepacking, racing, trailer towing.


 
Posted : 12/10/2017 12:03 am
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Cubes entry level cx bike is £999 we've got one coming in this week. Looks good value https://www.cube.eu/2018/bikes/road/road-cyclocross/cross-race/cube-cross-race-blacknflashyellow-2018/


 
Posted : 12/10/2017 2:59 am
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Just seen that I can buy Halfords gift cards (through work) for 10% off. Which means 10% BC discount paid for with a cheap gift card, works out at £729. Not sure i’m going to beat that (although Bolts PX is very tempting too....)


 
Posted : 12/10/2017 12:59 pm
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Just PMed you back

My email is in my profile if you want some pics?

Cheers


 
Posted : 12/10/2017 1:06 pm
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Your bike just got more bonus points, why on earth do CX bikes (looking at you Boardman and Genesis) get specc’d with open Gear cables under the downtube?!


 
Posted : 12/10/2017 1:10 pm
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finally built up
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Posted : 18/10/2017 11:04 am
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Such a shame IMO that the Cube only comes with mechanical disc brakes.

What's the tyre clearance like, rocketdog? Enough room for "giant" 38mm tyres?


 
Posted : 18/10/2017 1:17 pm
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What's the tyre clearance like, rocketdog? Enough room for "giant" 38mm tyres?
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to be honest the cable discs aren't bad and at this price level if you went hydraulic the levers would be the horrible entry level shimano ones rather than the very good 105 ones


 
Posted : 18/10/2017 2:54 pm
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All that effort and what thanks do i get?


 
Posted : 20/10/2017 1:15 pm
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thanks Rocketdog!


 
Posted : 20/10/2017 1:17 pm
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8)


 
Posted : 20/10/2017 6:02 pm
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Sorry Rocketdog, missed the thread update with my head cold returning in the last few days... Thanks for your scientific efforts! 😀

I was only mildly curious, as I've got no chance of going n+1 for a good while after buying my Attain GTC Pro Disc back in May for £900.


 
Posted : 20/10/2017 6:17 pm
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Just doing some interweb window shopping and spotted that Cube are releasing a 505 hydraulic version of the Nuroad for ~£1300.
https://www.rutlandcycling.com/bikes/road-bikes/cube-nuroad-pro-2018-adventure-road-bike-black_381457


 
Posted : 07/11/2017 6:00 pm
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Good enough for batman apparently
http://www.cyclingweekly.com/videos/cycling-tech/cube-nuroad-pro


 
Posted : 07/11/2017 7:03 pm
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For anyone interested*, I ended up buying this

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Tyres will be changed before racing, but otherwise it’s good to go. Longer TT and shorter stem feels nice (MTBers CX geometry?), everything else just seems to work. Not 100% sold on double-tap yet admittedly

*bored enough to look


 
Posted : 15/11/2017 9:15 am
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That black Cube above looks really nice.

With the Vitus is that a clutch rear mech or not? If it isn't how does the chain stay on - appreciate it's probably a narrow wide chain ring but is that enough?

The Vitus will probably look a lot nicer without tan wall tyres!


 
Posted : 15/11/2017 10:08 am
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It's a clutch mech and narrow-wide ring.

Hated the tan walls... now growing on me to the point I'll miss them when i swap 🙂


 
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Looks awesome with those tyres.


 
Posted : 15/11/2017 10:36 am

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