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Cycling is even allowed in France if you print off the correct forms so I think we will be ok for a while yet.
This statement is missing some very important points.
All recreational cycling out and about in France is forbidden, the government and the gendarmes are now insisting that there's no grey area. 135€ on the spot fine, 350€ if you're going to be a dick about it.
In brief you're allowed to use a bike to go to the shops, to go to work, but not to play.
Swinley now shut for MTB. Facilities closed and not allowed to use the trails for MTB. Crown Estate taking the risk and pressure on NHS stance. To be fair given the high number of incidents there it’s understandable.
Where did you see that? Did it include the fire roads in the Barossa area?
QECP have made their car park free until further notice so at least some news to cheer DezB up
Cumbria police taking a pragmatic view: https://www.cumbria.police.uk/News/News-Articles/2020/March/Covid-19-Appeal-to-people-and-businesses-to-limit-social-contact.aspx
Key quote being: We are one of the most sparsely populated counties so social distancing should be possible for all of us. If you are going out on the fells, rivers or coastline please stay within your limits and do not place additional burden on emergency services and the NHS through avoidable accidents.
Swinley now shut for MTB. Facilities closed and not allowed to use the trails for MTB. Crown Estate taking the risk and pressure on NHS stance. To be fair given the high number of incidents there it’s understandable.
Where did you see that? Did it include the fire roads in the Barossa area?
Forget that. I found it on the Bike Hub's FB... not real specific but I guess I will give it a miss.
Metro Centre riddled with arseholes today (nothing changes), I've heard.
I'm away to socially isolate in Chopwell.
I was asking rhetorically, FWIW.
Wish I was well enough to get some riding in, just in case things change.
But hopefully lessons have been learned from foot and mouth and people can be trusted to be sensible.
I think it'll be much needed as this is unlikely to be over quickly.
But hopefully lessons have been learned from foot and mouth and people can be trusted to be sensible.
For those that don't know, this was a key element in the eventual Land Reform (Scotland) Act that clarified and codified the current access rights in Scotland. The original White Paper contained various limitations and restrictions; no access after dark, restricted access to private grounds, no access over crops - including grass used for grazing and/or silage etc.. Then F&M happened. During the restrictions, the public were generally seen to be able to follow advice, be responsible, and steer clear of affected areas, particularly during the initial lock-down. On the other hand, many landowners and farmers were seen to take advantage of the situation with blanket access bans (some in contravention of veterinary advice) and movements of stock to rig the compensation system. As a result, post F&M, when the Bill came forward again, proposed access restrictions were removed and "Responsible Access" became the buzzword.
Perhaps, if folk can show the same restraint and responsibility again, we might head towards a similar outcome for the rest of the UK.
Thinking of heading into Maol Bhuidhe bothy for a couple of nights tomorrow. Jjust about as much social distance as I can get in mainland UK.
Mrs kilo and I are just back in from a gentle cx spin. It was just the two of us so distancing compliant. Lovely afternoon and good to get out after a week wfh for Mrs kilo and a week in an empty office for me
Saw a fair few other riders and one big group of mtb ers, seven of eight of them heading towards Epsom, a few groups of walkers who did not appear to be practicing any form of distancing - kids with multiple sets of parents, hopefully it’s only their gene pool and family who die.
This country is full of dicks.
Never ever ever seen so many people out in the Ridgeway. There were 6 of us out, but no man hugs, just a fair bit of distancing but close enough to hear eachother shout over the ridiculous wind.
Laps of the fire roads at Swinley it is then!
Getting out into the forest is one of the few ways that keep me sane these days regardless of what’s happening in the World..
To be fair given the high number of incidents there it’s understandable.
Indeed. Sad, but undoubtedly a valid point.
F, I might have to take up bloody running again!
I gave up on the south downs and hit the road. So many people about, including groups of riders who probably thought they were distancing but failing miserably.
Llandegla is closing, as it's been so busy there. Very responsible decision by OnePlanetAdventure...
Update 21/03/20
Please note, we have taken the decision to CLOSE ALL MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAILS to the public as of this evening, 21/03/2020 at 6pm for the foreseeable future.
Our priority has always been for the safety of our visitors, staff, their families, and importantly at this time, wider society as a whole. Our decisions have always been driven by that.
Whilst we have followed all guidelines and we have done everything we can to make the visitor centre a safe place to be, our experience today has shown that people are still visiting in bigger numbers than we are comfortable with.
Are we doing the right thing? We honestly don’t know, but we have to go with what feels right in this ever-changing landscape.
We recognise that fresh air and exercise are one of the few pleasures we have left in these crazy times, and we believe that in the coming weeks and months, with the right precautions being taken, we can offer that to our local community. But we must think about the possibility of accidents on the trails and what that will mean for both the individuals involved, but also the wider society. With the NHS services under immense pressure, we do not want to be part of the problem.
The other factor influencing this decision is that we do not want to be encouraging none essential travel. Its been a very tough call, but ultimately, in these times we must recognise our responsibility to society as a whole is what’s most important.
We will keep the car park and walking trails open for the time being, in line with current guidance, and ask that you also play your part and take all necessary precautions.
The visitor centre will remain open. We have several changes in procedure to ensure guidelines are followed including offering a limited take out service via the window.
I’m sure there are lots of things we haven't thought about at this time, so will continue to update you with any further info as it becomes available.
Please respect our decision, it was not taken lightly.
We thank you all for your continuing support during this time,
Jim, Badger & the team.
Riding local, trails are empty
Are they? Been hesitating but might get out then.
Just back from swinley (after not having checked any social media before I went out) and was going to post about the closures. I don't go via the car park so no idea what signs are there - I head over barossa as mentioned above. First sign of any closure was at the top of the baby make etc where everything was taped off, but the trails on the other side of the fire road (camel etc) still open, then I went via r25 and the stickler and didn't see any other signs until the start of red one. Gave up then and came home, but hopefully the fire roads are still fair game for some low risk exercise over the coming months.
Just back from swinley (after not having checked any social media before I went out) and was going to post about the closures. I don’t go via the car park so no idea what signs are there – I head over barossa as mentioned above. First sign of any closure was at the top of the baby make etc where everything was taped off, but the trails on the other side of the fire road (camel etc) still open, then I went via r25 and the stickler and didn’t see any other signs until the start of red one. Gave up then and came home, but hopefully the fire roads are still fair game for some low risk exercise over the coming months.
That's useful to know. Like you, I don't come into Swinley via the Lookout but from the Maultway into R20/Camel area. I think I'll give Swinley a miss for the time being... In the end, as I'd heard about the possible closure, I did short lap around Frith area today.... never saw any other bikes there,just the usual walkers and dogs mainly near to the Tomlinscote entry point.
I did short lap around Frith area today…. never saw any other bikes there,j
I did wonder about Frith etc - but given the intention behind the swinley closure it makes sense to limit risk and potential consequence for now, so I'll stick to road and fire road. If I feel the need for an adrenaline rush I'll try to get mrsp doing some hill reps 😉
I did short lap around Frith area today…. never saw any other bikes there,j
I did wonder about Frith etc – but given the intention behind the swinley closure it makes sense to limit risk and potential consequence for now, so I’ll stick to road and fire road. If I feel the need for an adrenaline rush I’ll try to get mrsp doing some hill reps 😉
I never did anything testing over at Frith.... just took it easy and enjoyed the sun.
Seems all the Yorkshire Dales tourist hot spots are rammed with people ignoring the social distancing advise. Locals aren't too happy about the situation either. People appear to be treating the good weather like a normal bank holiday! Lockdown getting ever nearer.
Was out at Cannock on my own and it was very busy. Saw at least 3 groups of bikers with 10 or more people per group, spitting sneezing and coughing away. Really not happy about that. People are morons.
Just back from a cracking session on some
of Surrey Hills’ finest trails. Parking at Wotton was insane - way more than I’ve ever seen before.
Trails were spot on. Met a few bikers and families out walking. All good. Peaslake Stores only permitting 3 customers inside at a time.
Would love to think we’ll be fortunate enough to continue in this way.
Heaving on Snowdon today.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/crowds-gather-snowdon-mountain-rescuers-17959085?fbclid=IwAR0uuU8WlfB4W3hMKfTkXGh6reF5DGpX2lxfnhIYHs9j5rJX0AB6xUUOF1o
Anglesey struggling, with an influx of pensioners, to ride out the isolation.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/coronavirus-concern-gp-reports-rise-17957934?fbclid=IwAR2N788huX9GrZl1rOUllhqbySqS8-nfcBP_7EyDcsfSBXPJdi8mrsBN7t8
You do wonder - the Manchester Evening News just published an article with suggested walks around the area. For some reason they thought Lud's Church, which is in part a narrow cleft where you pretty much get thrown together with other people, was a good call.
I've started thinking quite hard about routes with an emphasis on using wider tracks. If you're walking up onto Kinder for example, William Clough seems like a very bad idea given that it's mostly narrow singletrack walking, which is ironic given that the plateau itself is pretty open and social-distancing friendly.
I'll be avoiding popular routes in the Peak tomorrow and anything with narrow tracks in particular.
It's easy to blame people for being stupid or selfish, but the other side of this is that communication from the government has been woeful. People need simple, easy-to-follow guidelines and they need them rammed down their throats repeatedly.
Thought about an overnight bivi - but instead I'm digging up the lawn tomorrow in preparation for topsoil being delivered next week. I have no faith in the clowns allegedly governing us getting a grip on this situation, so it's time to dig for victory. Or something. Maybe loose lips sink ships.
Now is a great time to go and ride the trails that don't get ridden - they may not get ridden 'cos they're not very exciting or they are too steep or too brambly, but it means you don't have to see all the sheeple who are flocking to sites such as QECP or Cannock. I've spent a couple of hours looking on OS maps finding a route on the downs with no gates so I don't touch anything and can keep eating. It means I will be lapping the same area but its still better than the turbo. Not that I mind the turbo anyway.
There was a load of people out today and they didn't get close to 'social distancing' - gates are a great source of bunching up and bunching up is not smart anymore.
Call me a sp*z, but I'd rather ride inside and by myself than put the future of humanity at risk.
The sheeple seem to have no idea of the horrors that are coming and they are coming straight at us all at warp speed.
Its frustrating because there is no doubt of the benefits of taking exercise, but people are just taking the p.
Lockdown for sure
I did short lap around Frith area today…. never saw any other bikes there
Passed through today. Loads of dog walkers. Loads of them around everywhere and also families. A lot with kids on bikes which is good to see in a way.
Did see the odd few other riders. Plenty more over Tunnel Hill. Everyone seeming to be sensible though a few hero jump types.
Swinley though, Crown Estate are taking no risks. Not even fireroads. Yet walking fireroads are fine 🤔. To be fair, it's the amount of people there and wide range of abilities that causes problem.
This from the bike hub.
"A statement from the landowner, The Crown Estate.
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Mountain Bike Trail Closures
We closed the trails to stop this.
A paramedic crew, and ambulance and a hospital bed taken up today unnecessarily.
DO NOT RIDE THE MTB TRAILS AT SWINLEY.
They are closed for a reason.
@thecrownestate
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Speaking with The Crown Estate earlier *all* trails include fireroads.
As a small business operating on Crown Estate land please help support us in applying and supporting the landowners wish to halt mountain biking at Swinley so that we do not consume critical NHS resource at this time.
Thank You for your support
#swinleylife @ Swinley Forest"
The crowds have put an end to being able to ride in a lot of places I fear. Too many people in the same place and not following the distancing guidelines is forcing places to close off trail networks.
I'll still ride in the quiet spots during the week and will extend my commute when it's not busy but I have agreed to buy a turbo trainer off a mate so that I can get some exercise at home. Not for full rides but a few intervals should keep the legs ticking over.
@tjmore. Will crown estste update their website to give clarity? Bimbling on my cx bike on fire roads feels quite different to sending it on my FS bike on red25. BC suggest that road riding whilst observing social distancing is ok. I consider road riding more dangerous than fire road riding. I just want to do the right thing whilst balancing this with my own mental health needs
I had a nice ride with the kids today along the canal and local tracks. Quite a few people out, but no problem passing sensibly.
The local golf club seemed pretty busy when we rode through, and there didn't seem to be much observance of the guidelines there, unless there are lots of groups of elderly men cohabiting...
Did a ride on the South Downs yesterday and it was mega busy with walkers rather than cyclists. Even some of the trails I ride off the SDW that are usually deserted.
Combination of the weather being lovely and people not knowing what else to do to fill the void left by shop and cafe closures I guess. Lots of big groups, nice and close together...
I think I’m going to switch to early morning or late eve/night rides to avoid as many of them as I can.
QECP are offering free parking to encourage people into the park too, I can understand the sentiment but-really?
I'm finding it very difficult bringing myself to going out at the minute. People getting too close freaks me out.
Past couple of weeks it's been to work and back and that's it no leaving the house otherwise.
I might try and dig my lights out and do evenings or very early mornings. My usual routine is about 8am weekends but the local country parks seems to be rammed from photos on Facebook even early on.
Yeah, will do less ridgeway next time, summer day+ busy above Harwell (*near the two car parks) but all my other usual tracks were totally deserted and irritatingly windy.
Loads more people out cycling in our local rural area.
Ride from your door, don’t get in a car and drive!
I am sure that because of people’s selfish behaviour the government will bring in laws to stop us all going out just like Spain
Got a new bike and itching to get out in it, but think it best not to do so. I can cycle from the door to Macc Forest and get a decent sized ride in whilst avoiding the more tech bits. Just think it’s not a sensible thing to do right now. Seen plenty of cars going by with bikes attached though as I live on the road that leads to the forest. Haven’t been further than my own back garden for a week and going a bit mad.
We cancelled our plans to go hike Beinn an Lochain avove Arrochar, at first it seemed sensible enough, straightforward wee hill, shouldn't be any crowds, only 3 of us driving separately.
After the recent statement from Scottish government we've cancelled, we weren't exactly driving to Skye for a week in a camper but the principle didn't feel much different.
Going for a walk along a less well known riverside trail instead, will take opportunity to do a bit of litter picking too!
Gog to say I'm still finding it confusing as to what is responsible and what isn't. We'll each be driving 30 minutes which I guess is 'non-essential', but other than that we'll be enacting 'social distancing' so feels OK?
If my two friends didn't both live by themselves I'd maybe have bailed completely but am telling myself that the mental health benefits outweigh the non-essential travel...
I went out for a bivvy last night. My original plan was a 100km ride, investigating some windfarm and shooting estate tracks I've yet to visit. After a bit of consideration I cut that right back, so 11km each way and all on tracks I'm familiar with. Saw 1 runner and 2 folk out walking last night (17:30 or so), 3 runners this morning on my way back. I expect the trails to be much busier today as there has been an influx of visitors.
I drive into Richmond yesterday to drop food at MIL's and then onto SIL's as she's corona isolating. I was quite shocked at my response to seeing large groups of cyclists "****ing dumb ****s" I thought. Why do it? Just riding on your own or with those you live with.
Dropped food at SIL's and people playing football together in park opposite!!!
As for all the bewildered pensioners shuffling about the services on the M4!!! I wouldnt have stopped but was desperate for a pee.
QECP are offering free parking to encourage people into the park too, I can understand the sentiment but-really?
I don’t see why not.. just ride safely and sensibly.
However, just seen on the news -
National Trust have closed all parks and gardens, so QE will be closed now.
(double post)
Would that National Trust shutdown include the gated field(s) with various paths around the Butser Hill trig point?
NT shutdown is their parks and gardens but open spaces, coastal areas etc are open. Plus parking charges suspended.
Delamere Forest yestreday (on my doorstep) - WTF! - I have never seen so many people, in al my 54 years - absolutely mad with car parks overflowing, large groups of walkers (and cyclists) - crazy
With scenes like this Coronavirus: 'Unprecedented scenes' on Welsh hills maybe it's time for a rethink. If you've got somewhere you know will be pretty empty then fair enough, but avoid the usual honey pots.
I'm quite lucky and I've got the Quantocks and 2 or 3 other decent riding spots that I can ride to from my front door so no car use needed, there's also a fairly disused but rideable pump track a mile away too.
I can get to all of these by backroads and bridleways where even before all this you'd be lucky to see another person. Hopefully the idiots won't ruin things for the people being sensible.
My view is that sensible exercise must be better than the long term effects on the NHS of a load of people sat inactive for months?
My view is that sensible exercise must be better than the long term effects on the NHS of a load of people sat inactive for months?
I agree but "sensible" and "people" don't necessarily seem to be in alignment at the moment.
Those 2 things seem to be getting more and more out of alignment too, it's like somebody introduced a new strain of stupidity a few years ago which is gradually spreading through the population 😡
It is like a bank holiday weekend in Northumberland this weekend. Have to say that people are starting to get annoyed with the numbers of people emptying the local co op/butchers of everything on the shelves. Went for a ride with the wife and dog (reduces the need to take our energetic collie on two separate walks) yesterday and this morning and decided to go to our local trails rather than a local increasingly busy forest but still loads of large groups of walkers and riders out there.
Not long until a full lockdown is coming I think.
My view is that sensible exercise must be better than the long term effects on the NHS of a load of people sat inactive for months?
It's becoming obvious that too many people can't be sensible. That means that everyone will suffer the consequences, whether that means contracting the virus or simply being restricted from activity.
Let's cut the general public a little bit of slack here.
OK, I'm sure nobody here was daft enough to head up Snowdon yesterday, but there are millions of people who suddenly can't go and do their usual indoors weekend leisure activities, at the same time as the weather's suddenly not all stormy.
They probably didn't realise everyone else was gonna be heading to the same place as them.
So hopefully any change in guidance/policy around outdoor activity will be carefully considered - rather than a knee-jerk reaction to a few widely circulated photos on Facebook.
I'm trying to refrain from judging others in the present situation, but people might want to reconsider the wisdom of planning group rides with six people. Hashtagging #socialdistancing doesn't make anyone immune.
I work on an estate with two well used bridlepaths going through it, in the brief time I was out and about at work today I saw two groups of bikers riding through riding close in a bunch, I also saw two groups of families walking together.
Get the hint and isolate!
Ran a mile in my garden this morning! Was actually good fun, the money I've saved on Easter hols also more than covers the treadmill and turbo that are on their way.
I went out for a run yesterday, too many folk about, I'm not gonna be one of them.
On my time I'll leave confines of the house now is 1 day a week at the office, and for food.
OK, I’m sure nobody here was daft enough to head up Snowdon yesterday, but there are millions of people who suddenly can’t go and do their usual indoors weekend leisure activities, at the same time as the weather’s suddenly not all stormy.
There’s some truth in this.
It felt like the first good day of the year yesterday, guidance is that going outside is fine in small, family groups. NT said the grounds were open and so people went out.
We did just this, we thought places would be quiet and were wrong so changed plans, but if you’ve just got somewhere with a family it’s not that simple.
I think things will quieten down this week, people who WFH will do just that and the message of stay at home will kick in.
I work on an estate with two well used bridlepaths going through it,
Saw your little truck when we* went through but couldn't see you.
We also saw a few large group of walkers and riders who didn't seem to get it.
We gave everyone a very wide birth...
Think we might stick to night rides from now on.
*Mrsstu and me.
I was skiving, erm I mean self isolating (picking up litter) in the woods
I was concerned about riding around the Roman Lakes this morning but whilst there were more folks out and about it wasn't as chaotic as I was expecting. I'd already decided not to straaaaava! any of the downs so it was a relaxed ride. The weather being as it is will have dragged a lot of people out.
Today's ride felt like a reward for riding in the rain all winter, I just hope that today wasn't the last ride for spring / summer.
The weather has definitely encouraged people to go out, which is understandable, but it's hard to understand why so many people just seem to be ignoring the social distancing advice.
I had a nice sunny solo ride today, but saw a number of small groups of cyclists riding together. I came back over the Forth Bridge, which was as busy as usual with groups of pedestrians, who didn't particularly appear to be trying to keep their distance from each other.
I just hope that today wasn’t the last ride for spring / summer.
I'm hoping it is, really hoping this government will grow a pair and do the right thing asap.
It's a sacrifice I'm happy to make. 😔
Hoping for the shit weather to return ASAP!
Went on a sunny solo road ride today - ended up briefly helping a rider hit by a car. Watched the ambulance heading up to him and wondered if I should be out.
Then I saw several people up ladders with electric hedge trimmers.
I suspect isolation at home will put more strain on the NHS than us riders.
I posted at the start I would still go out riding, and Yesterday went over Rosset gill+ Esk Hause its been a ride ive wanted to do for ages, Langdale looked very quiet when i set off at 8:30am and all looked good until I arrived of the stretcher box.. It was like Blackpool sea front up there and in Borrowdale. I couldnt help pass comment on social distancing but no one seemed to give a flying one. Same again today,just returned from a quiet walk with my wife and kids away from the local Saddleworth areas that again today have seen more footfall than a sunny bank holiday by the images on social media. I know its hypercritical of me to say im going out on my own for a quick ride away from everyone in the local hills and then slate people all flocking to the normal walking areas, but the levels of f$$£s given by these mindless prats is astonishing. Maybe people are thinking one last day of normality before they take things serious or just the great British public's complete lack of thought caring or interest for what might be...
Great walk today, a wee 'heritage' riverside path in an otherwise non-descript area of central belt.
We kept pretty good distance from one another (as evidenced by my sore throat from raising my voice constantly), I managed to collect two large vags of rubbish, and we saw some grey wagtails which is always a treat.
Otherwise though surprised by the general bank holiday atmosphere in my village, lots of strolling groups although I guess they could be families...
Had a nice ride up at the old local, which I tend not to bother with any more. It’s fallen into disrepair a bit, most of the trails need some TLC for sure, due to a serious lack of use.
So with what will be quite a few weeks free now and no racing coming, will spend our time digging them back in & tidying.
They arnt exactly tough & tech, but they are better than nothing 🙂
Local quiet places are fine - we all need some fresh air. But beyond that can people really not see how a chunk of this kicked off in Italy???
Well travelled and affluent city folk still popping to the holiday home and going out skiing to import / mix / export the virus far and wide. So now some do EXACTLY the same thing here.
We've got friends in Cremona. Mtbers just like us who we used to join for the 24hr race in the city. At least one of them is now endangering her life on the front line at the hospital (was on TV yesterday and looked grim). I've not asked for details - friend's basic comment was "Cremona is in deep sh**"
It’s almost like Someone Up There is trying help the virus spread.. What we needed this weekend was a continuation of the wind & rain. What we got was the best day of the year so far. Not good.
This guy has put together a good graphical summary of how the major European countries are tracking against Italy in a few slides, and the UK is uncannily close to Italy when you baseline against day 1. Deaths in Spain are now growing at a faster rate than Italy when aligned on the day of 1st case.
A video of Scotland Chief Medical Officer saying bike rides in small groups is fine.
4.5 hours on the turbo trainer today - watched all of Ragnarok so its not all bad. You know, this may be boring and dull, but I plan to come out of this half a stone lighter and as fit as ****. The alternative is to sit on the sofa and come out of this an alcoholic.
We are about to lose the right to ride outside (cos many people can't work out that going outside and playing on bikes is daft at the moment using their own brains), so drag out the winter trainer and get used to it!
No sneaky, trying to beat the system, riding in the dark or going out when its quiet - we only have a few days to develop new habits that will save the country.
Did a 50 mile road ride today, nowhere near as many groups out, but definitely felt like there was more cars in the countryside after 10am. Think I only saw two groups of about 8 riders, would normally see quite a lot more than that. I’m only riding solo from now, hoping we can keep riding even if it’s solo rides. We have a large park area near us where we walk the dog, quite a few people out and about but generally most people keeping their distance.
We are aiming for odd times - 7.30am walks last week, a couple of sunset rides.
We are also sticking local and not the 'known' paths or routes.
Royal Parks in outer London closed to traffic but still open for cycling - but given how fing selfish some are (not just now, but in general) I give that till mid wk before they are closed to all.
When this is all said & done I’m moving out of this stupid town....too many idiots here now, not enough space & sooooo bloody expensive!
You better do it quick or you'll get locked in.
I'm surprised how worried many of you seem to be about the virus. Unless you're geriatric or a fat smoker it's not a major concern - you should be much more worried about disruption of trade, countries shutting their borders and the coming Depression. How/when/if you ride your bike has no bearing on what's steam-rollering towards us.
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I’m surprised how worried many of you seem to be about the virus. Unless you’re geriatric or a fat smoker it’s not a major concern – you should be much more worried about disruption of trade, countries shutting their borders and the coming Depression. How/when/if you ride your bike has no bearing on what’s steam-rollering towards us.
We are all worried about trade, just as we're worried that with a mortality rate of 5%, we could also be looking at 3m uk deaths. If we can get people to obey the rules, the death rate will be lower, the lockdown shorter and the economic impact reduced. it's all connected you flippin Muppet!
Went out today. Carpark and roadside parking at the start of the trails (I didnt drive) was rammed, by which I mean Bout 15 cars rather than the 6 it holds.
However this meant I saw about 6 family groups instead of the usual no-one at all and they were at least quarter of a mile apart, so we would seem to have capacity still.
We went out for a family outing in Saturday, heading for a local NT garden, but we saw how busy it was and kept driving. Can't believe how many people just waited in the queue when they could see how rammed it was. We ended up on a beach well away from anyone else.
I’m surprised how worried many of you seem to be about the virus. Unless you’re geriatric or a fat smoker it’s not a major concern – you should be much more worried about disruption of trade, countries shutting their borders and the coming Depression. How/when/if you ride your bike has no bearing on what’s steam-rollering towards us.
And that ladies and gents is what we're up against 🙄
I’m surprised how worried many of you seem to be about the virus. Unless you’re geriatric or a fat smoker it’s not a major concern
Well, my parents are old, as are many people's. So whilst not being concerned about being ill myself, I am concerned about the spread of the virus generally. Do you not see how this works?