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The banner on the forum from STW Towers captures it best.
No Car, No Gnar, Not Far.
Agreed. Sums it up perfectly.
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No Car, No Gnar, Not Far.
Not sure about that last one. Why are we imposing limits on ourselves? I generally go out at night .. if I got out on rural lanes and bridleways from my house, I can use some common sense and I do not generally see anyone out while I'm doing it. Not far my arse! define far! 'Far' for a roadie or 'far' for a mtber? coz the two are greatly ****ing different.
And we should also be educating anyone coming out with this misconception that we can only go out for an hour.
Sigh, it's all been covered many, many times. "Far" is a general term, i.e. if you're 50 miles from your house, that might be too far. Or a 100 mile ride. Also probably too far. 20 miles, all within 5-10 miles of your house? Knock yourself out. But don't knock yourself out.
And on that note, (and in my opinion) I would probably refrain from solo night rides - too much risk of taking a silly tumble and needing people to come look for you/patch you up.
It's all just about going out, but for a reasonable distance/time/effort. Not hitting max HR, or doing a 6 hour epic ride over a mountain pass, or going for a 100 mile road ride. Just don't take the piss. Simples.
Or not simple, according to this thread.
Some comments here won’t look very clever when death rates are over 500 a day.
20,000 deaths is the current estimate discussed at today's briefing if we all strictly implement the measures. Described as a 'good result'.
That purity spiral concept is interesting, enviously looking at various friends and co-workers rides on Strava today, they're barely any different to their normal Saturday AM rides!
That said, they're all local, all solo, and all early morning. The only difference is where I'm worried about going out for 2hrs (and would have kept it private if I did) they've all been out for 3-4hr efforts, slow and steady.
I suspect the difference is that they've taken the government advice at face value rather than tying themselves in knots trying to gain the approval of internet fora.
I'd have a wee go at them but one is my director, one an associate of a company I might like to work for one day and one is merely my immediate superior in the office. Maybe I need some new riding buddies...
yes. 
Maybe I need some new riding buddies…
We're all solo riders now 🙂
I've just been put for a local spin on the road. No chain gangs. Riders in ones and twos only. A few family groups, which surprised me a bit as today was overcast and windy. I hope they keep it up after this is over. Very light traffic which was an absolute joy.
I went out on the MTB this morning. I saw 3 roadies (separately), 2 cars and a bus (all >5m away at all times). It was properly quiet. And the trails were dry. Lovely.
Just unfollowed on Strava a semi pro rider who is posting up daily 80 plus mile road ride most days, idiot 😔
Well I'm getting a bit angsty now as I've only done a few spins with my boy who is 9 for the last week or more, the turbo is not the same....mrs anagallis is going to have to do the dog walk soon so I can go out.
20 miles local mtb morning ride & never more than 3 miles from my house. Saw maybe 6 solo cyclists and a smattering of walkers (all making an effort to give a 2m distance). Possibly due to the cold wind & odd light shower.
May have been discussed but national guidance on treatment of injuries is now 'don't operate unless life or limb threatening'. Or in simple terms injuries that normally get operated on will now be treated without surgery even if there is a risk of a worse outcome. This is to reduce the burden on the NHS nationally.
Very good advice to ride steady and not push it!
jet (orthopaedic surgeon)
I'm just doing 20-30 miles on local roads/trails on the CX. Either very early morning or early evening.
Lovely and quiet on the roads now - partly its reasonably rural around me anyway and partly I suspect the time of day that I'm out. Driving standards seem to have improved too - the initial occasional "ragging round like an idiot" driver has gone and of the few drivers out on the roads now, everyone has given me a wide berth and been driving (relatively) sensibly.
I said I was out, but I'm now being referenced in other threads by people I don't know just because I have a different opinion - which is neither that outlandish nor unshared by others. That knitting article is very relevant. Please stop, this place has a tendency to quickly descend to hounding and I've seen alternative voices on Brexit result in long term users driven off the site. The same is starting to happen here.
The government guidelines are fairly clear: don't drive somewhere to exercise and do it locally and on your own.
This isn't about purity spirals which concern values, but simply following some rules to safeguard the wider population. Nobody here is boasting about isolating themselves in their home.
Hell, there are people posting who don't know the difference between spreading and transmission, and who are claiming that epidemiology is just 'common sense' and that they alone just 'know' what they should and shouldn't be able to do.
From the knitting article:
A purity spiral occurs when a community becomes fixated on implementing a single value that has no upper limit, and no single agreed interpretation. The result is a moral feeding frenzy.
If the government had imposed an upper limit (edit: as has happened in ROI), these arguments would not be happening.
I rode from home today - 24 miles, few people out (almost all ones and twos), few cars on the roads that all behaved impeccably. Actually quite pleasant in spite of the cold northerly wind.
A police force has had a surge in calls from people reporting their neighbours for "going out for a second run".
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-52052830
Cabinet Minister Michael Gove said on Tuesday that "people can go for the standard length of run or walk THAT THEY ORDINARILY WOULD HAVE DONE. But… the important thing is, once a day".
My caps. No wonder there is much confusion.
What about 200km but never further than 3km from home?
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So I went for a slightly abridged version of my normal saturday morning ride, cutting out the bit of built trails with a few jumps. No car, no gnar and not far. About 21 miles in total.
More positives than negatives.
Positives.
Hardly anyone seemed to be out in groups that didn't look household based.
The very few people I encountered close enough to have to worry about social distancing were cheery and we gave each other a hugely wide berth.
Car and van drivers were behaving impeccably.
It was cold, but a nice morning.
I saw a Great Crested Grebe in full breeding plumage.
Negatives.
Although I only saw about 20 people (and only passed four or five close enough to have to make an effort to distance) at least half of them looked over 70. They were mostly taking their dog for a shit walk, but the thought did occur to me that they should be asking themselves who will take the dog for a shit walk if they are dead.
One or two parked cars on verges near closed country park car parks. Presumably people who need to drive to take the dog for a shit walk.
From jam bo's linked article:
"My wife doesn't think her job is essential but I do and she's working from home. Is there anything I can do?"
Haha, some bloke has obviously had enough of his wife already...
Also, I can only imagine the calls the police are getting from the curtain twitchers. "Look derek, that bloke from number 19 is getting into his car for the THIRD time today, quick call 999!!!"
I must be setting off the nosey ones on our street, as not only have I been driving to work all week (until Thursday, back in tomorrow - Key worker for a bank, and 500 laptops aren't going to build themselves...), I went out to do a weekly food shop yesterday, and drove my mum to and from A&E on a GP's orders (ankle issue which could have been a bad infection but the week of antibiotics hadn't done anything) and have been out for a cycle ride yesterday, run today.
What about 200km but never further than 3km from home?
Erm...
Not sure whether to be impressed or outraged.
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Blimey, this place is fun !
(came here because of a few references on other threads)
In strict terms of virus transmission, driving in a "sealed" car to an empty rural venue to take exercise makes a lot of sense in comparison to doing it out of your urban door, passing relatively close to multiple people doing the same (plus some dicks who probably get too close, may have still been doing so in groups all along and are more likely to be carriers than the national mean).
It's to our national shame that the rule is clearly there to stop people taking the piss and so I do think everyone should follow. (it's unfair on city dwellers who don't own a car etc etc and potentially entitling to dickheads who'd fancy a 50-mile drive for a chage of scenery and fish&chips at the seaside/walk up PenYFan/.., where they'll sit right next to some more dickheads who thought the same - did you see the "spring break phone tracker"?).
BUT, the advice is (granted, my bold and I suppose it could've been updated as this was yesterday)
stay local and use open spaces near to your home where possible – do not travel unnecessarily
IMO "open spaces" is the most important of those, well above "stay local". Yesterday I watched 2 similarly paced runners, one 3-4m behind the other when I was coming home from work. What the rear one was potentially inhaling makes for slightly scary thinking. They were both well within the letter of the advice and so anyone on here shouting that it's totally clear needs to shut up and not crticise them at all. Me, I think the rear one was foolish.
If you can travel safely to a (minimally distant) open space in preference to using a more crowded local environment, I say do it - in fact I'd argue that it's necessary. Colleague of mine takes her kid out to the local city park. It's rammed during any of the times you can sensibly take a little kid. I'd be in the car and out to somewhere emptier every time.
Following the advice in the way some on here are insisting is NOT best protection in my view.
Want to do more than your bit for reduced transmission? Turbo in the garage and keep your virus properly to yourself; don't get all precious just because your 59.9 minute bike ride only polluted your local area with virus. Similarly, riding to work HAS to be higher risk for environmental loading than driving, so why would any idiot do that ?
Trials riding is what we should all be doing. You can do it anywhere. Straight out of your front door. Or inside your garage/shed/barn/front-room, so ultra-local. It's not about distance/endurance whatsoever. It gives you a full body workout. It challenges your balance skills. It's about problem solving. Experts at the Centre for Perioperative Care (CPOC) say: "Take exercise unless you are unwell with the virus: ideally a brisk walk, cycle or jog. Strengthening and balance exercises are also recommended" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52076856
Unfortunately although our household generally eats healthily, there's some problems with portion control and pudding. But on the plus side I'm even less fussed about alcohol since this started.
I think the words of Harry Day apply here:
“Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men”
without wanting to sound like I think knitting is unethical or that I’m terrified and full of hate, but what happens if a fool sees a wise man being guided by rules and being a fool, thinks to himself I’ll do something similar and ends up doing the wrong thing? Or something
Similarly, riding to work HAS to be higher risk for environmental loading than driving, so why would any idiot do that ?
Becsuse the risk is probably so far off the bottom of the scale you couldn't calculate it.
The measures are going to reduce the risk to an acceptable level (one that results in infection rates the nhs can cope with).
You may as well ask why people weren't sealing their houses today because it was a bit windy and that could blow droplets containing the virus miles into the open windows of people at home on their turbo trainers, idiots.
Like worrying about catching the clap off a toilet seat, its probably possible, but far more likely as a result of getting a lot closer than 2m to the wrong person.
And you do know cars aren't sealed, all your breath goes somewhere.
In strict terms of virus transmission, driving in a “sealed” car to an empty rural venue to take exercise makes a lot of sense in comparison to doing it out of your urban door, passing relatively close to multiple people doing the same
Dont come here talking sense.
The problem is most people completely lack the ability to think of quieter places to go, they congregate at honeyspots. I took my son out for a ride on monday, we rode up to Greenham Common, it was very busy what amazed me was the walkers all walking round the main perimeter track, some walkers with half a brain worked out they could walk 10m off the track and keep away from others. They boy and I dived off down some of the trails round the edges and then buggered of elsewhere asap. Havent been back but I heard the carparks are closed.
Trials riding is what we should all be doing.
I was thinking that as I have a good sized garden, can make obstacles etc,. and a good excuse to bu a trials bike the I always wanted. But on second thoughts it is not something I have any skills at and am VERY likely to be falling off and breaking or injuring something. Clearly not a good or wise time to be doing that...
Becsuse the risk is probably so far off the bottom of the scale you couldn’t calculate it
I'm not proposing it; it's a response to the zealotry exhibited elsewhere on here - and anyway, it's incalculably HIGHER, I bet. The point is that vilifying people for doing one thing that adds incalculably to the transmission, while continuing other similarly (not)risky behaviours is a nonsense - especially when the (IMO) correct interpretation of the govt advice actually supports this person anyway
To the OP, the answer is no unless you are riding to work.
Just back from an hour ride. Saw less than 10 cars driving about but did see another 10 parked up in a dog walking area so 10 people had decided that essential travel means driving to somewhere to go for a walk. Only saw 2 other cyclists though but it was horrible out, 40mph motherly wind was not nice for cycling.
A motherly wind? Is that one that keeps telling you up put another layer on or you'll catch a cold?
I'm not so sure the problem of cars is the driving but rather the parking when you arrive. Here the car parks were all rammed at the end of week 1 and people were squeezing between cars to get to their own. It was spread central 😞
@scotroutes when I was a youngster, my friends were seriously impressed by my mother's farting prowess.
Haven't the NHS stated that they want people to get exercise as it strengthens the immune system and helps to fight the virus? A quick "stretch your legs" from the front door is not going to help significantly with this - more for mental health. This is going to go on to, most likely, June and stopping your exercise for this length of time is going to be counter-productive.
Also found this article which I found interesting - debunks the still common belief that endurance training suppresses the immune system (and I'm NOT saying we should all be training at max - this is not a good idea at the moment for many other reasons including injury/ heart attacks etc). Just interesting.
Also found this article which I found interesting – debunks the still common belief that endurance training suppresses the immune system (and I’m NOT saying we should all be training at max – this is not a good idea at the moment for many other reasons including injury/ heart attacks etc). Just interesting.
This is the recent UCI mail-out that talks about intensity, nutrition during training and a few other bits and pieces that might be useful/interesting for anyone training hard - I'm guessing mostly on here people are 'just riding':
https://mailchi.mp/uci/uci-newsletter-special-edition-coronavirus-2-march-2020-ja61fseeyi
There's also a study somewhere, which I've seen referenced a few times, that purportedly shows that regular cyclists in their 50s have an immune system comparable to that of someone approximately 20 years younger - I'm paraphrasing, but that's the gist of it.
and I could be wrong here (and please do correct me if you are talking from a position of expertise) but are we (the 50's crowd) not in danger of losing/ reducing our, supposedly, "better than average" immune systems if we stop exercising regularly for the next 3 months? Is not maintaining our level of fitness actually to the benefit of the the NHS if there is a higher probability of staying out of hospital?
Why do you need to stop exercising. Run, walk or ride from your door. Do press ups, setups etc,. inside the house and so on.
Now is a great time to start running if you haven't already, doing something like the couch to 5k minimises the chances of injury as it starts your off very gradually.
I started it before Christmas, finished the 9 weeks a few weeks ago and did a 8.75km trail run yesterday. I'm currently the fittest I've ever been and it'll improve my mountain biking no end.
Half an hour running is about the same as an hour or more cycling, and you don't need to go more than a few km from your house.
Its about reducing the micro risk. 10 000 people drive to the park. x% will break down (= increased risk). x% will need to fill up (=increased risk).
I've just been for a run (with my daughter on her bike). A woman stopped me on the park because her car key had stopped working (she was with a small child, getting cold). I managed to get her key to work. But that increased the risk to both of us.
There is no point clapping for the NHS if you think you can carry on as normal and the risk to you is ok. If 50 million people take steps to reduce their micro risks (for all things - no gnar) then there will be a net result.
The more people are dicks (8 hrs rides around the block), the sooner we will be in full lock down.
I've been doing the isolation thing for 2 weeks already - not gone mad, not felt my mental health has been at risk, not had to hoard bog roll or alphabetti spaghetti, nor to binge eat, go for stealth night rides or see pals for 'random' rides and the biggest problem is getting a puncture on the turbo trainer!
This is not so hard guys - stay home, be creative, learn new routines and pass the day in new and different ways..... maybe bake a cake, make jammie dodger bikkies or a chicken pie?
I'm 90% this will all turn out OK and 10% ****ing doomsday; lets pull towards the 90% eh?
Purity Spiral
My one exercise a day is walking the dog so the running and riding has been curtailed.
There's a dusty turbo trainer in the back of the shed. Does anyone know of a good guide to turbo training (with a heart rate monitor if required) to try and keep things interesting.
I’ve been doing the isolation thing for 2 weeks already – not gone mad, not felt my mental health has been at risk, not had to hoard bog roll or alphabetti spaghetti, nor to binge eat, go for stealth night rides or see pals for ‘random’ rides and the biggest problem is getting a puncture on the turbo trainer!
Lucky you. I know people that can't tick some of those vital boxes, and then to be told that they feel that way after 2 weeks and there could be another 10+ like it.
This is not so hard guys.
Yes, yes it is for some. Anxiety off the scale in one case, depression, panic attacks.... I know people with all these, and rightly or wrongly these are felt as more immediate threats to them than the risk of the virus itself.
I'm not saying this is an excuse to remove lockdown, or as a reason to break the rules but making out it's easy because you are managing is very close-minded.
“This is not so hard guys...”
Yes and no. It could be worse but it’s not easy with a very grumpy 4 month old, and two larger but still small children. But it’s worse for a friend who’s a single mum with four small children. And worse still if you’re in her situation but without a garden.
If it was just me on my own with a normal and probably furloughed job I’d be writing and recording my self-isolation concept album. But instead I have to juggle helping keep my wife sane and sharing the baby wrangling and childcare whilst somehow keeping my business alive and living on very little because I’m not entitled to the self-employed 80% or much of the PAYE 80% because I’m a company director.
But it could be much worse.
This is not so hard guys.
Yes, yes it is for some. Anxiety off the scale in one case, depression, panic attacks….
Yep, I'm doing what's allowed by the rules, because if I didn't, I'd be stretching the NHS further needing a consultation and prescriptions for meds again.
If we all get properly confined, I'll have to deal with it. But operating within the rules and doing the minimum I need to do to protect my mental health for as long as I can is far better for me and the NHS
There’s a dusty turbo trainer in the back of the shed. Does anyone know of a good guide to turbo training (with a heart rate monitor if required) to try and keep things interesting.
If you can, hook up a laptop with an hour+ long pov riding video, and start off with some "base miles" which is zone 2 heart rate.
Maybe do some intervals on another day.
Unless you have zwift, turbo training is going to be boring, so you need something to keep your mind occupied.
Can you not go running with the dog?
Haven’t the NHS stated that they want people to get exercise as it strengthens the immune system and helps to fight the virus?
I saw that yesterday (though not sure if the source was actually NHS) but I can't find it now.
I could run with the dog but that would mean that she doesn't get the sniff stimulation or the play engagement we would normally give her.
Haven’t the NHS stated that they want people to get exercise as it strengthens the immune system and helps to fight the virus?
I saw that yesterday (though not sure if the source was actually NHS) but I can’t find it now.
There have been a few people promoting exercise. Not sure about an official NHS or government response. For example this was on the BBC: Coronavirus: Stay fit to fight the virus, say medics
Also from that article: People are also being urged to take action now to cut the risk of developing other health problems which could put further strain on the NHS.
Well I would say people have got the message and are following the rules a lot more now.
I did a variation on my normal Sunday loop - less tech, more gravel - and saw hardly anyone out and about.
Car parks on Woodbury were mostly empty and the main road near Sidmouth, which is normally heaving on a Sunday morning, was deserted.
Can you not go running with the dog?
Better still, train the dog to use the turbo and go out for a ride.
Purity Spiral
Quit with that meme, it’s irrelevant to the current situation we are in. Stop the spread. You know what really needs doing. Do it. If you don’t, we’ll all end up inside all the time for the duration to help keep people alive. That full lock down would seriously and dangerously effect the mental health of some. Think of them.
There’s a dusty turbo trainer in the back of the shed. Does anyone know of a good guide to turbo training (with a heart rate monitor if required) to try and keep things interesting.
Find the GCN videos on youtube, use 4k video downloader to download if your wifi is patchy where the turbo is. Start with Get Fit Fast 40 minute sweetspot workout.
Use/buy a rear wheel speed sensor or an old school cycle computer to tell you wheel speed.
Practice finding the right pace to complete the workout. No harm building up e.g. pick arbitrary lowish pace (I think 25km/h would be pretty slow on any turbo).
I eventually worked up to approx 32km/h per interval for the sweetspot workout, again, this is totally arbitrary as it depends on turbo and bike setup. That was the pace that allowed me to complete the workout, just, rubber-legged, but completed!
It's a tough workout, once you figure out your best speed etc. and maybe plug in some good tunes, you WON'T get bored. Boredom comes from just aimlessly trying to pedal for a set period of time with no targets or structure.
Start slowly, let your knees adjust, jumping straight into intervals on a turbo is a recipe for knee pain.
Quit with that meme
My apologies
PURITY SPIRAL
Because repeating it and putting it bold caps somehow makes it more valid.
I quite fancy a road ride now because by the sound of it the roads are even quieter. Windy AF tho which ruins it.
Very little traffic noise around us. Even in the midst of the forest there's an absence of the ever-present, but indistinguishable, road noise. It would be a superb time for a bivvy, though my next will have to be in my garden😊
@scaredypants talks sense.
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Maybe we should concentrate on penalising the congregating dicks rather than those using a form of exercise that just about guarantees a large degree of social isolation and has health benefits.
Maybe we need a party island we can send them to where they can party until they drop, one by one. May I suggest Gruinard?
20 planes landed in London yesterday from NY, currently one of the global covid hotspots.
Everybody was sitting close together and nobody was checked on arrival. All passengers dispersed around the UK, many on public transport which has no facilities for social distancing.
20 ****ing planes.
And yet the picture on the bbc of people flouting the ban is a policeman gesticulating at a lone female cyclist and we have drones targeting lone walkers in the peak.
Utterly crazy.
And?
More measures are needed at airports.
That doesn’t give you licence to risk spreading the virus to other areas.
Get angry with the government if they are not putting in the measures needed to track and contain possible new cases from hot spots around the world, not local police forces trying novel ways to get the message out to the public to stay at home, and take brief local exercise only.
I think I'll go for runs or rides in the city, the videos and photos show deserted streets and it's only a half hour drive. I'll need to get petrol on the way, maybe a snack too. Loads of people seem to be coming to the village, it's normally quiet here but today it's like a town centre.
There's two village shops which are providing a lifeline for vulnerable residents, but if the staff get ill then the community will suffer. Rural communities struggle to maintain sustainability at the best of times with poor public transport and services, which have been cut back further because of the pandemic. Living in the countryside is not a privilege, many of us do so for economical reasons and the distance is often a trap blocking access to facilities. If you live in an urban area, there will be another shop next door or a quieter neighborhood to exercise in nearby and more support services should you need them. In contrast living in a village means that I'd have to travel 4 miles to the next shop and if I became seriously ill I'd have to wait longer and travel further to get help. The farmers are rightly concerned by the increase in footfall, viral spreading aside it is also lambing season and an increased risk to their animals. A lot of them have had disasters such as flooding recently and are struggling to get back on their feet, and if they become unwell they might not be able to attend their stock and land.
The advice is clear to stay home and exercise locally
I agree and our family hasn't left home for a week except for 1 or 2 local rides from the door - not even been to a shop since Monday.
Still I think the shaming priorities are wrong - this whole exercise thing has been blown way out of proportion when compared to what else is happening out there.
Anyway I swore I wouldn't get involved in this type of thread as they dont help anybody. I was just appalled at the incompetence of so many in charge of this fiasco. Stay home, stay safe and try to stay sane.
We should have been monitoring incoming flights since January probably, but that doesn't excuse trying to work round the current lockdown rules
We had a lovely gravel ride around the New Forest today. Even the hotspots were remarkably quiet - there was the odd car in car parks but that was it. Few cyclists & wakers out but it was great to be able to ride two abreast on main roads without fear of a local mentalist trying to kill us in a car.
Better than no bikes at all, regardless of what we do it’s obvious that’s coming at some point now, they have already started dropping hints.
Is that true about NY flights? WTAF.
Still I think the shaming priorities are wrong
This is it in a nutshell for me.
I went for a ride yesterday, from my door, no car, no gnar, but really quite far.
Wasn't recorded, wasn't posted anywhere. I'd have got some stick possibly if I did.
I've seen the glee on FB as people delight in Police turning people away from the beach, driving to the forest to walk the dog etc.
If they were genuinely concerned about helping stop the spread, they'd be down the local shop berating those who stroll down there for a paper in the morning. I saw loads of them yesterday morning as I set off. Predominantly in higher risk categories I reckon, stopping for a blether and likely paying with shrapnel or scabby fivers.
Can argue this either way - sure everyone can find a way to justify what they are doing based on 'someone else is doing something worse'.
Bottom line - are we all doing as much as we can? If the answer is no likely that the lockdown just goes on for longer...
I got a decent ride up into the Pentlands today, just cycled from my door.
In comparison to walks round Arthur's Seat or the Crags, the extra distance, solitude and exertion really cleared my mind and helped me feel a lot better about the lockdown, which had really been getting to me.
First ride out in probably months today. Took the SS for a spin up from home out to the fringes of the Peak above Baslow. Even avoided some nicer sections of singletrack and stuck to the doubletrack and gravel lanes. Lovely time.
The disappointing thing was still seeing a few (three separate groups) out by Barbrook and Shillito Woods walking their dogs. Clearly nowhere near home and a few cars still parked up. I can understand the logic that now that most people are sticking to the rules the quietest place will be out in the Peak but it’s the sense of self entitlement that really ****s me off. Do it for the greater good arseholes.
That's a good point about the planes. CV came into the UK by plane.
It's time the distance between the seats was restored to a decent gap. It's inevitable that under current seating that if one passenger has something transmittable like flu, there will be others affected by the time the flight lands.
Ditto for security and immigration controls.
This might help when something even nastier comes along, as it inevitably will.
As far as being outdoors is concerned, is there any figures on how long the virus will "live" if it gets on vegetation? (eg did someone cough on that bush that I've just pushed past to keep my social distance)
There have been a few people promoting exercise. Not sure about an official NHS or government response. For example this was on the BBC: Coronavirus: Stay fit to fight the virus, say medics
Ah that was the one. Though meanwhile someone posted a link on another thread to nhsproviders briefing
"Mental health impact of social distancing
Jenny Harries (deputy chief medical officer for England) was asked about the impact on people’s health from being asked to stay at home. She said this is something they are concerned about and those being told to isolate for 12 weeks are given mental health advice in the letters they are receiving. She encouraged everyone to make the most of the extra time not commuting to exercise".
We were out for a local road ride today. If only it always be so quiet.
Just got back from a road ride (with a bit of gravel thrown in). Cold wind which has probably put people off going out but it was deserted. I mean like proper post-apocalyptic deserted. Actually quite eerie at times.
Farmers still giving it laldy round here ( and quite rightly)
The only issue is they now have to dodge people who have parked in field entrances etc.
Pelicans the lot of them
PURITY SPIRAL
I like that.
Had a great ride today, stayed local but had some cracking "good form" across the top of the Downs.😁
I ride from my door for ten miles, gentle off road and some woodland singletrack. Maybe 1000ft of climbing and I'm back home inside an hour. I was out and back before 7:30AM and didn't see another living soul. It's so peaceful sitting up by the trig point in the early morning sunshine. I even saw two wild horses this morning. Freaked me out. They have no business being there but I felt like I was the one out of place. Its easy to forget whats going on and frankly I need my bike ride to look forward to. We all need to be responsible and I know there's a small chance I might hurt myself, but I could just as easily fall down the stairs or cut the end off my finger chopping onions for tea.
Went out for a four hour ride today, quiet roads very little traffic, quite a few more cyclists bliss. Didn’t get close to anyone. Very low risk now with reduced traffic. Anytime I’ve needed hospital treatment after a bike ride involved a careless driver. Less traffic on the road lower risk.
Looks like this will be a long term thing so I’m avoiding the turbo for now. Did 8 weeks on the turbo December & January don’t relish going back on it unless I have to.
Most risky activity (for virus spread) I do at the moment is food shopping.
If you want to turbo fill your boots but don’t criticise folk for getting their outdoor exercise in which is recommended by the government as long as it’s solo.
I know a couple of van-dwelling traveller types, and they are getting a lot of shit from the police. These were in Bristol, and were being threatened with fines, vehicle confiscation, etc.
If your vehicle's your house what do they think you're going to do!?
A few of them are stocking up and heading for remote, out of the way places, not much else to do really.
So if you see a camper or similar vehicle parked up, bear in mind that could be their only home.
Went out for a four hour ride today
Well you really are a loony then 😟
Oh, and you manage to say ‘I’ 4 times, it’s not about you, it’s about everyone. Very selfish approach.
Went out for a four hour ride today,
keep up with this and this
Did 8 weeks on the turbo December & January don’t relish going back on it unless I have to.
will be the outcome