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It’s not all about you. Centuries of disease control says that quarantine works in terms of protecting a population.
I didn't say it was about me but I'm offering up a different perspective from a different part of the country where the local police aren't being as draconian. Besides, I'm staying within the rules by only going out for a run with my dog from my home along towpaths and trails.
What I have encountered are a few elderly and infirm people out on the towpath who really don't appear to understand the term "self isolation" particularly for vulnerable groups. One woman who was about a mile from closest habitation, clasped a hankie over her face as I passed with a look of horror like I was an axe-murderer FFS.
I’m hearing that tighter restrictions are on the way. If you want to ride your bike, do it now (within the rules obvs) before the checkpoints go up and the fines start being issued.
Richmond Park have just banned cycling as well. With cars banned, the number of people cycling in the park has gone beyond tipping point, social distancing can't be maintained so - all banned.
The exception is NHS staff cycling to work who have to show their pass to gate staff and ride through, not do laps.
This was posted on the FRA forums. Obviously aimed at runners but the general points hold.
Advice/plea to Fell Runners: tread carefully.
Now more than ever is the time to think about others and yourself. We can all help save lives by thinking and being considerate. Running is important for many of us, especially now the UK is in lock-down. This is our chance as a community to show leadership, compassion and maintain and build our reputation as responsible outdoor users.
Many of us are already working overtime in the NHS and other key roles across the country. We ask you please to read and follow this advice:
Run for sanity not peak performance - there are no races in the near future.
• Maintain base,
• Let those injuries recover,
• Do that strength and conditioning work you’ve always put off!
• Keep in touch! We’ll all miss seeing our club-mates, well most of them, social media makes keeping in touch easier than ever, but the phones still work and not everyone is online.
Don’t be a casualty - the NHS is busy and mountain rescue and other emergency services are too.
• Now more than ever – do not run if you feel at all unwell. Headache, sore throat, persistent dry cough, temperature of 38 or above and loss of smell/taste are all documented symptoms of C19.
• Don’t go for long and/or strenuous runs – injury or heart attacks are best avoided!
• Avoid running on terrain where you may injure yourself (think about walking it) – Mountain rescue may not be coming to get you!
Kit Check - You are on your own.
• Take full FRA kit as a minimum
• Take enough food and drink; the café is shut, the pub is too
Infection – keep your distance, and keep your hands clean
• Avoid other people outdoors where possible, go early or late in the day to avoid the crowds
• Keep your distance if you meet others out there.
• Think about gates, styles and anything else that people had their hands on. Imagine everything you touch is covered in pink paint! How do you prevent transferring it to other surfaces and users? How do you keep it off the rest of your stuff – keys, jacket, shoes, front door – wear gloves you can throw away or wash when you get home.
Route planning
• We love running but its non-essential: run from home
• As always, let someone know your route and when to expect you back. By text/phone if you live alone.
We all love the fells but the current situation means we all need to act differently. Other European countries have banned mountain sports and imposed 2km limits for all activities. Please let’s all be sensible and keep the access we still have. One news story about a ‘reckless fell runner needing rescuing’ could be the end for now.
On Tuesday's mtb ride I was given a friendly wave from the 3 police officers in one of those riot vans.
I did the ride backwards meaning all my usual 'whoo hoo' descents were climbed and all the boring climbs were descended, it made for a safer trip.
Unfortunately I've made the decision to stay indoors.
To get to any quiet rides I need to go along one of the 2 canals that run by our house. As this is no longer allowed (even though a neighbour said today they were very busy) its in everyone's interest that we don't use the narrow tow paths.
Also I'm beginning to see boy racer types ragging their cars around, full of lads laughing and thinking the whole thing is a joke. 2 lads parked on a no through quiet lane and left their rubbish strewn on the pavement. They were confronted by 3 people and just drove off.
These are the types that would easily knock one off a bike.
Also hearing motorbikes racing along a local road at around 5pm, this has been every morning for the past week.
There have been some lovely people though (mostly mtbers), who are out riding on their own, staying way from others by giving wide gaps.
Derbyshire police just had to say that groups of cyclists gunning it down Snake Pass about an inch away from each other is clearly contravening social distancing and leave it at that.
The 'lycra clad' thing was unprofessional and who ever did it should be reprimanded. Police should not show prejudice in any regard.
Really, though, all it has done is confirm that, yep, there are a lot of utter strokers on Twitter. Something that was already very apparent.
You can go out and get some exercise.
You can only travel for essential reasons.
Exercise somewhere else =/= essential
Until I read this post I'd concluded that driving for exercise was within the rules. (I don't need to do so, but I thought I could.) In fact you're right, it's blatantly not.
Thanks.
they were talking about this a bit on R2 today, also mentioned the fact that whilst towpaths/bridleways accessible without driving might seem a good idea, they might not be (depending on where you are) as potentially could be narrow & quite busy therefore impossible to keep distance.Until I read this post I’d concluded that driving for exercise was within the rules. (I don’t need to do so, but I thought I could.) In fact you’re right, it’s blatantly not.
and reporting the following on thier live feed
Note the government is still not explicitly outlawing driving somewhere but is obviously trying to discourage people from making unnecessary journeys.
The guidance now says:
stay local and use open spaces near to your home where possible – do not travel unnecessarily
you should only go outside alone or with members of your own household
keep at least 2 metres apart from anyone outside your household at all times
gatherings of more than two in parks or other public spaces have been banned and the police will enforce this
if you have a garden, make use of the space for exercise and fresh air
take hygiene precautions when you are outside, and wash your hands as soon as you are back indoors
though i can't find it on the gov site
though i can’t find in on the gov site
As has been said a few times, it is the mixed messages that are causing confusion. It is more or less the same thing being said but in different ways. You'd have thought after the huge success of "Get Brexit Done" they'd have the measure of a simple message repeated ad infinitum.
Derbyshire police can’t know how far those people idendiied on the drone footage have travelled.
No but they could, and did, check registrations of cars parked at Curbar Gap. They were not all locals.
It really is obvious, unless you are a bit dense...
No need to be a dick, that’s the last thing we need currently.
Well said Molgrips, but not sure it was necessary as he pretty much self pwned himself by calling people dense for not understanding rules then getting them wrong himself 🙂
yep now waiting to be stopped by a copper and asked "do you have a garden", "yes officer". "Well then you should be exercising there".
Thoughts on how long is long enough..... I have various quiet back road loops from home, my favourite is roughly circular and 24 hilly miles, currently taking me about 1hr 45, as very unfit after a long layoff. I reckon any longer is maybe pushing the guidelines a bit ?
I am however seeming friends on Strava knocking out 40 to 70 miles a day, every day, from their homes, and getting loads of Kudos...
What’s enough and what’s too much in current environment, time or distance ?
The trouble is, if you think going to Mamm Torr* for a nice ride/walk is a good idea on Saturday to make a nice change from being stuck inside all week, maybe you're under the impression your plan is novel, and you can get some good photos of you self isolating for instagram.
You can also bet that a significant proportion of Greater Manchester and Sheffield* have had the same idea. Probably a much bigger proportion that would on a normal weekend too as everyone is stuck inside, not just you.
*Insert beauty spot and local metropolitan area of choice.
Peaslake / London
Swinely / Bracknell
Afan / Bristol
Clent / Birmingham
Llandegla / Mersyside
Grafham / Huntingdon
Pentlands / Edinbrough
Strava knocking out 40 to 70 miles a day, every day,
this why we can't have nice things and probably why france canned cycling.
No but they could, and did, check registrations of cars parked at Curbar Gap. They were not all locals.
They identified one family who came from Ipswich!
What’s enough and what’s too much in current environment, time or distance ?
To me I'd say an hour of anything is enough to keep your fitness. Any more is training and excessive.
Strava knocking out 40 to 70 miles a day, every day,
Be fec king great if the police demanded Strava hand over their data!! 🙂
The other thing that concerns me on these busy footpaths is all those hands touching the stiles. The virus can last for hours or days and hundreds of people - from different parts of the country - will be touching the same stile in a busy part of the country. Spreading it even more.
Just been for a road ride up Whinlatter (on my own from my house before anyone starts!).
Two cars parked up by the visitor centre - someone had stuck a Stay Home sign under the windscreen wiper of one.
Still smiling about the irony of someone driving up to Whinlatter to put a stay home sign on a car...
What’s enough and what’s too much in current environment, time or distance ?
I still don't see what the risk is of being out and about on main roads. Other than the perception, but then it makes no odds if people see you out 1km from your house or 30km since most of them don't know where you live.
I expect the volume of runners will drop off sharply as if they are new to it, they will be broken by now!
Hopefully some of the amateur cyclists too! They will be wrecked after a couple of sessions.
Seriously though I've seen runners out on the TPT some of whom look like this is teh first time in years they've taken a run. Many look like they are about to have a heart attack.
I'm going out on my bike after dark tonight to avoid all the idiots.
Its all very well middleclasstrackworld wanting the empty places to its self but why should those less fortunate be made to suffer? I cant rationalise this and a load of people saying yeah but rules doesnt help.
Travelling spreads the virus around. It amazes me that people don't seem to understand this.
Massive increase in the number of cyclists I saw on the trails today compared with an almost identical ride on Wednesday in the 30-odd km I rode. I saw 4 riders on Wednesday and a whole 12 today. Fewer dog walkers though and the car parks were almost empty.
I did have a laugh though. One guy drove into a car park, past the "This Car Park is Closed" sign, stopped at the payment meter and stuck in a couple of quid, got his ticket, then parked.
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I went for a ride with my boy up to Greenham Common on monday, it was busier than a normal weekend. We did some of the routes round the fringes and then rode home. Went elsewhere on his next to rides. Car parks locked today so we may be able to return.
Can someone correct this though if I'm wrong. Boris said run or bike or walk once a day and also said police would split up groups of 3 or more so I have been alternating walking dog with mrs and then the one that didnt walk dog can run or ride with boy and the other goes zwifting, but I see loads of families out and about. The dog is pissed off as she only gets one walk a day.
Travelling spreads the virus around. It amazes me that people don’t seem to understand this.
It may spread it geographically quicker but the infection rate would fall if people could stay away from each other.
Travelling spreads the virus around. It amazes me that people don’t seem to understand this.
The virus is already widespread. I doubt there is much virgin territory for it to occupy. What leads to greater rates of transmission. Staying close to your house but being in a busy area where it is difficult to maintain 2m separation , or going somewhere more quiet where you meet fewer people and maintain a greater space. Don't get me wrong, this isn't about driving across the country to a beauty spot, it's about driving for a few minutes to a locally less popular area.
Infections stay local which is the whole point of any sort of quarantine or 'lockdown'. It's not just about protecting the people locked-down but everyone else. It's also a fallacy that there are all these 'open pastures' where lone dog walkers can get away from it all. As we saw last weekend, when everyone does the same all these places are packed and you have people travelling from within maybe a 50 miles radius all to mix and infect each other and take virus back to their local communities. The lakes or peaks are only quiet right now 'cos people have been told to stay away.
Infections stay local
Even pandemics?
The lock-down is put in place to hammer down the peak letting the currently infected recover or die to in effect 'burn out' the epidemic. It's about containing and limiting transmission.
I suppose if you know of some super quiet secret place 10 miles from your door which for some reason isn't super attractive to other people thinking the same thing as you then there should be no problem.
I'd question about local streets being super busy. It's true I live in suburbia, almost the sticks, but there are several hundred km of streets around me which are quiet but If I go to the TPT it's rammed. I could walk around the block many times and avoid anyone by crossing rd. Every dog walker and numpty on a bike has the same idea to go to the TPT and a couple of local national trust woods right now.
you have people travelling from within maybe a 50 miles radius all to mix and infect each other
Can straw men get Covid-19?
Folk on this thread are talking about driving for 10 minutes or so and I don't think any of them are Lewis Hamilton.
Driving to ride would probably be more sensible for me in terms of passing fewer people at close quarters, but I accept the rule has to be broad enough to cover everyone and I'll take one for the team.
People flocking to honeypot areas may have been a bit dodgy from a disease POV, but it was probably more damaging in terms of the anxiety it was causing among internet users.
Seeing really good compliance round here now and people seem reasonably chilled, which is nice.
The pandemic will die down if infected people don't travel around spreading.
@imnotverygood you have a valid point there. I'm lucky in that I live in a small village in the sticks where I can easilly access trails from my front door. Usually meet a few locals out on the trails but not many. Anyway, a couple of days ago OH fancied coming for a ride with me but wanted to go on the moor where there would be less people. Normally we would do the mile and a half climb up the hill but her back was hurting so she asked me to take the bikes up on the car which I did. Didn't meet a soul all the time we were out. Since then I've been telling her I don't think we should use the car again for rides as it's against the rules. Today we went on the same route but as she felt better we did the climb on bikes. On our way out of the village and during the climb we met a few people who inevitably wanted to chat. Once up the hill we met no one again. So, which of those scenarios gives the most chance of catching or spreading the virus?
Walk, run and cycle are given as examples of exercise. It’s not a limitation.
+1
I do wish people were capable of using common sense without demanding absolute granular detail on each rule, and thereby driving tighter restrictions.
It’s also a fallacy that there are all these ‘open pastures’ where lone dog walkers can get away from it all.
So do I walk the dogs on the narrow towpath by the river just by my house in the centre of a of an urban area, or do I drive a couple of miles to a place with open fields and woodland paths you can step off if you meet someone? I choose the latter because I think there is less chance of transmission. I'm not doing it because it is a beauty spot.
It's like the tragedy of the commons. A nice green field with nobody on it, graze all my cattle there, but then everyone else wants to do the same and next thing the grass is all grazed and soil depleted all the cattle die. What is good for me acting in naked self-interest is bad for the common good. What you are really asking is can you get away with being a free rider and taking advantage of everyone else sticking to rules.
So, which of those scenarios gives the most chance of catching or spreading the virus?
If in about whataboutery then theres the legitimate third scenario of where you cycle out the village without stopping to speak to anyone.
I choose the latter because I think there is less chance of transmission. I’m not doing it because it is a beauty spot.
The risk may be higher if the consequences are worse. Instead of the virus infecting someone across the road it may now jump 50 miles. We got into this problem by people taking international flights out of China don't forget.
As I said it's not all about you.
So do I walk the dogs on the narrow towpath by the river just by my house in the centre of a of an urban area, or do I drive a couple of miles to a place with open fields and woodland paths you can step off if you meet someone? I choose the latter because I think there is less chance of transmission. I’m not doing it because it is a beauty spot.
Agree 100%, but we can't do that because everyone got their knickers in a twist about those pictures from Snowdonia last weekend.
Well it’s been clarified now,
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52062209/blockquote >Still vague. To play devil's advocate driving for a walk could still be considered 'local' and it says 'where possible' which, to me, is completely meaningless. Is this guidance anything other than that, guidance? It needs to be enshrined in law as every police service will have different a interpretation.
A point to make against driving is that if the police are having to set up checkpoints, people driving for exercise purposes are an unnecessary burden on their time. Yes, you could potentially be doing the UK a favour by choosing to exercise in a more remote location, but how are the police able to verify that for every car they stop? For efficient checkpoints they will want as few vehicles as possible and easily verifiable reasons for traveling.
@trail_rat talking to people isn't breaking any rules so long as the correct distance is maintained.
Is this guidance anything other than that, guidance? It needs to be enshrined in law as every police service will have different interpretations.
The legislation was published yesterday.
Ah yes of course. People need it spelled out for them
Its still riskier than not stopping.
You said your self it increases your risk.
Strava knocking out 40 to 70 miles a day, every day,
Be fec king great if the police demanded Strava hand over their data!!
I don't see the problem with this sort of distance. If you're on your own, from your door, not doing cafe stops (how could you), and it's a usual, manageable distance for you, knock yourself out. What is the argument against it?
The legislation was published yesterday.
Regular people are not going to be reading the legislation in full so the published guidance needs to reflect that and not use vague language. They need to specifically state that vehicular travel for exercise purposes is not essential and therefore contrary to the legislation. Otherwise the arguments will continue.
What is the argument against it?
Because it's meant to be for light exercise - not training for your next Sportive!!! FFS people!
In my parents town in France.
A couple walking their dog were fined outside my parents house.
Their crime ? Walking the dog together.
Its coming folks.
The risk may be higher if the consequences are worse. Instead of the virus infecting someone across the road it may now jump 50 miles
It isn't going to jump 50 miles because it is already there. I'll spell it out again. What represents the greater risk of transmitting the virus:
Walking 2 miles and meeting 50 people, half of whom wou have to pass close to because of the narrowness of the path. Or diving 2 miles walking 2 miles and meeting 5 people, all of whom you can pass at a safe distance?
This absolutely isn't about trying to bend or interpret the rules so as to get a nicer walk, let alone driving 50 miles to go mountaineering. I don't want to catch it. I don't want to spread it. I want to stay within the government's guidlines to achieve that, you are being masssively simplistic. You need to look at the rules and understand what they are trying to achieve and act accordingly.
I don’t see the problem with this sort of distance. If you’re on your own, from your door, not doing cafe stops (how could you), and it’s a usual, manageable distance for you, knock yourself out. What is the argument against it?
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To put it simply, there’s no end of what ifs, eg what about the dog that brushes against the tree you coughed at, gets stroked by its owner who then ends up in hospital.
It isn’t going to jump 50 miles because it is already there
Stoping any viruses that you are shedding from spreading miles around is how the pandemic is contained. It can't die down anywhere if it keeps getting reintroduced. This is why borders and air travel is shutting down.
What represents the greater risk of transmitting the virus:
Walking 2 miles and meeting 50 people, half of whom wou have to pass close to because of the narrowness of the path.
You appear to be confusing transmission with spreading
I agree with the point you were making but it does not mean the car is the solution
I can’t believe folk can be arguing for traveling any distance to go for a walk. ****ing insane. You are allowed out of you house to get some exercise and to stop you going a bit mad being cooped up with your family the whole day. If your current understanding of a walk or a bike ride includes driving anywhere then you’ll need to adjust your understanding. There is a life threatening infection on the loose with no cure. The sooner it is brought under control the sooner folk can return to work to and generate some money for the country. This is likely the first of a series of lockdowns until a vaccine or cure is found. People need to get used to it and do what they are bloody told.
Not vague.
Stay at home.
Short exercise from your door.
Don’t be a dick, or they’ll stop us getting out at all.
diving 2 miles walking 2 miles and meeting 5 people
driving comes with risks. You may crash or be crashed into. This will need to be dealt with by people who have better things to do than treat the selfish.
You appear to be confusing transmission with spreading
enlighten me
People need to get used to it and do what they are bloody told.
yeah but that's not what we are being told.
Short exercise from your door.
by that logic, have you got a garden ? if so exercise there.
As someone pointed out earlier you only drive when it necessary to do so. Walking or cycling in your preferred location is not necessary.
admittedly the government are out of touch with the common man. This may be the problem. A lot of folk aren’t capable of making a simple deduction or they are wilfully ignorant.
by that logic, have you got a garden ? if so exerciese there.
That is part of the gov advice… if you have a big enough garden to exercise in, you should use that.
Don’t drive or get public transport to somewhere to exercise. Just don’t do it. Please.
this will need to be dealt with by people who have better things to do than treat the selfish
The chances of being in an RTA are pretty small in thecircumstances. Check out the stats for people tripping on paving slabs. Everything we do has some element of risk. What has a higher risk. Driving a short distance to walk the dogs or riding a bike from my front door? According to some people the latter is also too dangerous to contemplate despite being officially encouraged.
I'm not being selfish. I am trying to reduce the chance of meeting someone who has the disease and thereby propagating the virus. I'll add that I am married to a surgeon who will end up in the front line when this gets going. She's not exactly keen on doing anything that is going to make the situation worse funnily enough.
The only good thing about all this is that it has certainly shut up the 'Keep Calm & Carry on Brigade'
admittedly the government are out of touch with the common man.
I bet most of the government would be astonished to learn that the general population does not have 2 or 3 homes with moats and duckhouses and 4 spare bedrooms per person....
if you have a big enough garden to exercise in, you should use that.
it makes no mentiion of size, you're just making shit up.
For **** sake.
STAY AT HOME
Do not travel to ‘somewhere quiet’, as your selfish ****tery will result in all of us having to stay in doors, all the time.
extend over a large or increasing area.
the action or process of transmitting something or the state of being transmitted.
"the transmission of the virus"
Between two locals it's transmission.
Between two people from different areas having a transmission of the virus and taking it back to their respective areas....spreading.
Both definitions taken from dictionary . Com
That is why staying local is important.
As for the its everywhere already defence. - that's just ignorance.
Me me me
I want I want I want
I need the government to tell me when I can go for a wee wee.
you’re just make shit up.
They say garden. I said big garden, to stop someone coming back with “I can’t swing a cat in my garden”.
Oh, and don’t swing cats…
Someone will be along in a minute saying they NEED to drive to the moor because the live 6 floors up no doubt.
I’m not being selfish. I am trying to reduce the chance of meeting someone who has the disease and thereby propagating the virus.
sorry, the use of selfish was rather inflammatory. And I know the chance of crashing a car is pretty small. if you really want to avoid people, stay in your house. Obviously, I’m being a dick now. That is the beauty of the Internet argument. We can focus on one thing out of a whole passage and miss the point.
anyway. Drive if you want to. The consequences of people flouting the rules is the rules being made more stringent.
But that depends what your definition of local is. If you define it as your street, then giving it to someone half a mile away that's spreading. If you define it as your town then you are transmitting it within the town. Either way this disease moves between two people who meet. Even if you only meet locally it will still spread, it will just take more people to do it. But if you are meeting more people then it will happen just the same. The fewer people you meet the less likely you are to pass it on. That is what we should individually be aiming for.
Advice is not vague at all. Don't drive for exercise - it's not essential. Do it from your door.
Some people don't like it so look for individual words so they can "interpret" the very clear advice they've been given to suit how they feel.
At work I sack those people. I can't abide them. If you can't take instruction and your mind is looking for self-justifying reasons for get-outs for things you don't like you're unmanageable.
Unfortunately they still exist in the real world. Hopefully if they get it the whole world will level-up on IQ a point or two when they pass on. The shame being that a handful of them will spread it to people who are trying to do the right thing.
Stay at home. If you need to go outside for exercise do it from your door. Don't be driving to the peak district to do it. Or Wales. Or Norfolk. If you're city-bound, tough titties - that was your life choice. Time to take up callisthenics and pilates. If you're doing it right then your heart rate will soar.
Don’t drive to somewhere to exercise, or we’ll all be told we can’t exercise outdoors at all.
Check what has happened in other countries. Educate yourself and act accordingly.
The consequences of people flouting the rules is the rules being made more stringent.
I agree entirely, but as far as I am aware I aam not flouting the rules, nor am I trying to circumvent the rules for my benefit. As I said. I'm married to a surgeon.I'm extremely worried about what happens to her being exposed with inadequate PPE. I'm not trying to be a d*ck. I'm trying to stay safe while making sure the dogs get thier exercise. If the rules change, and I expect they will, then I will abide by them, as I have been ever since all this started to happen.
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Walking 2 miles and meeting 50 people, half of whom wou have to pass close to because of the narrowness of the path. Or diving 2 miles walking 2 miles and meeting 5 people, all of whom you can pass at a safe distance?
Well 1. If you were not driving your car people could step in the road to pass 2. You are increasing risk by using a car, if you hadn’t noticed ambulances are a bit busy at the minute, and the fire service won’t be rushing to cut you out of your car as they are taking the dead bodies to the rows of freezer trucks 3. At some point you will go to a petrol pump and fill up touching the fuel handle.
Why do people feel the need to want to try and break a very simple rule
Advice is not vague at all. Don’t drive for exercise – it’s not essential. Do it from your door.
Some people don’t like it so look for individual words so they can “interpret” the very clear advice they’ve been given to suit how they feel.
simply not true, it was clarified by the Cabinet Office,
However, the Guardian checked with the Cabinet Office, which is overseeing restrictions on movement, and a spokeswoman confirmed that the guidelines did not prohibit driving somewhere for exercise or dog walking.
and the new advice does not make it any clearer.
You realise you only don't meet people in these locations you drive to to avoid people because the majority of people are doing as advised and staying local.
If everyone was as selfish your quiet spot would be overrun......we saw it last weekend prior to the new rules all over even at normally entirely deserted places.
I'm driving to the spot where we normally walk our dogs, our backup walk which is the one we can walk to is the one that's rammed with people.
Anyway. stepping away now. Stay safe
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/coronavirus-guidance-on-access-to-green-spaces
Please use the following guidance in order to stay safe:
stay local and use open spaces near to your home where possible – do not travel unnecessarily
Seems pretty clear to me.
No unnecessary journeys.
Also, and this probably applies to the general public more than STW people, you don't HAVE to go for a run/walk/cycle every day, there's nothing wrong with staying inside/in your garden. In fact:
"People can go for the standard length of run or walk that they ordinarily would have done. But… the important thing is, once a day," cabinet minister Michael Gove has said.
How many of these people that are out have just dusted off their 10 year old apollo halfords special, or put on some running shoes, having not cycled or ran more than a mile in the last few years?
I'm not running or cycling more than I have done in the last 4 months. There's suddenly been a surge of number of runners in my local area, 2/3x more now that a few weeks back. Nothing like a limit on leaving the house to make people want to leave the house more...
I'm astounded by the ****tery shown on this thread. I wasn't a fan of people before, even less so after all this. 🙁
Everyone seems to have a dog all of a sudden as well - bet half of those mutts only used to be kicked out the back door to shit on the lawn and were never walked.