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Several of these council signs have popped up in our regular riding area.
and here is the small print.
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Does this include cycles as it doesn't exactly say so?
It doesn't say what will happen if caught and how enforceable is it?
I don't think so:
'The term 'motor vehicle' is defined in section 185(1) of the Road Traffic Act 1988 and section 136(1) of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 as "a mechanically propelled vehicle, intended or adapted for use on roads".'
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Mechanically propelled things are things that use a motor to propel them. A bicycle is propelled by a human, so are fine
Ambiguous. I would say if you are worried about being stopped and subject to a fine, should one even exsist, you should call the council for clarification.
If you are already riding on foot paths you shouldn't be on anyway you can probably guess the outcome of that phone call!
It's not ambiguous. Mechanically Propelled Vehicle is defined in law.
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If a robot was to ride it's bicycle there. That wouldn't be allowed.
But the sake of all mankind John, better be on the safe side and leave those God awful looking Lauf Forked BSOs you're so fond of riding at home tho eh? 😉
The real question is where can I get a pedal powered hovercraft?
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But the sake of all mankind John, better be on the safe side and leave those God awful looking Lauf Forked BSOs you're so fond of riding at home tho eh?
Spoilsport
If a robot was to ride it's bicycle there. That wouldn't be allowed.
What about if this robot had human muscle tissue grafted to its robo-legs, and for the sake of argument had also learned how to love?
similar signs near me, mechanically propelled is something with an engine. the signs also say that you are not allowed to moor a boat. we are about as far from the sea as it's possible to get, signs are generic used by a lot of councils
What about if this robot had human muscle tissue grafted to its robo-legs, and for the sake of argument had also learned how to love?
But not cry, that's something they can never do.
what about a bicycle ridden by a mechanic?
But not cry, that's something they can never do.
Because they'd seize up and go rusty?
I bet they mean bikes as mechanically propelled could mean them. yes I know we don't like the idea but I am damn sure that the phrase could be meant to include them. Two options. Ask and obey or try it and see. Easier to ask for forgiveness than permission? 🙂
However if bikes are banned then by jove you should concede defeat and do as asked.
Would an e-bike fall foul of this by-law?
As above, mechanically propelled vehicle does not include a pedal cycle (and for what it's worth, a legal E-bike remains a pedal cycle rather than MPV too)
Amused by the 'seed' comment, as it's far more likely that the wind or a bird will bring one in.
I don't like the comma that appears after road. I'd say it creates ambiguity.
Amused by the 'seed' comment, as it's far more likely that the wind or a bird will bring one in.
The wind or a bird would typically bring in stuff that is local anyway. Whereas intentionally bring in a crocodile egg is a different matter.
That's why it is the first point as much higher impact from a float of crocodiles than someone on a moped.
Haven't they heard of the "Plain English" Campaign ? Who writes this stuff ?
For a legal notice, that is plain!
It's actually pretty clear - I understood it from one reading so can't be that bad.
The real question is where can I get a pedal powered hovercraft?
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As said above a bicycle is not mechanically propelled. It's human propelled. E-bikes would need clarification, I'd say they too are not mechanically propelled, they assist the rider.
Amused by the 'seed' comment, as it's far more likely that the wind or a bird will bring one in.
That's a natural introduction.