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I've been running the Ardent as a rear tyre for years now as I find that the 2.25 folding EXO version is a great compromise between grip, rolling resistance, durability and weight. However it's an old design of tyre now and over the last 4 years tyres must have progressed.

So, is there anything out there that improves on any of the above parameters without compromising the others?

It's going on the rear of a 150mm full suss, mainly riding in the Lakes, Peaks and around Rivington, doesn't have to deal with too much mud as I've got a HT for that.


 
Posted : 02/02/2014 11:20 am
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Nothing is better.

For winter/mud = 2.25 Beaver?


 
Posted : 02/02/2014 11:36 am
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You won't find anything better as an all round rear tyre IMO. When it's dry or you're at a trail centre, a Schwalbe Rock Razor or WTB Bee Line has it beat but the Ardent can be left on all year round and will perform well.


 
Posted : 02/02/2014 12:28 pm
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I've just ridden my hardtail for the first time this year and remembered why I bought the Ardents. Grippy as could be expected over a mix of mud, wet leaves, chalk, sandy fireroads and roots. I was pretty happy with them in summer too.


 
Posted : 02/02/2014 12:52 pm
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[[url= http://flowmountainbike.com/tests/tested-four-great-trail-bike-treads-finished/ ]Review of other options here[/url]

Also consider Specialized tyres. Purgatory?


 
Posted : 02/02/2014 12:59 pm
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So still plenty of love for the Ardent then ?
I've looked at the Purgatory but is doesn't look like it rolls as well as the Ardent. Anyone who's used both like to comment?
Also looked at the Conti X-King 2.4 but not sure how big these blow up (running a 2.3 Butcher on the front and don't want it to be any bigger), I know the 2.2 comes up small for it's size.


 
Posted : 02/02/2014 6:39 pm
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I've looked at the Purgatory but is doesn't look like it rolls as well as the Ardent. Anyone who's used both like to comment?

I use Ardent 2.25 and 2.4s a lot but there's a point when it gets wet and soft enough for a Purgatory F+R to feel better to me (that happens a lot sooner on the front than the rear). The chunkier tread drags a bit more on hard ground but when it's wet that makes no odds imo and it's a more predictable tyre then, climbing grip is better too. Ardents are good on hard to soft+dry loose ground, but not on anything wet, muddy etc.


 
Posted : 02/02/2014 6:56 pm
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Purgatory on the front then?

Any other (non-Specialized) candidates?


 
Posted : 03/02/2014 5:12 pm
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Conti Trail Queen on the front Mountain king on the back. As long as you have the Black Chili compound. If you dont then its bambi on ice time.


 
Posted : 03/02/2014 5:19 pm
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I've looked at the Purgatory but is doesn't look like it rolls as well as the Ardent. Anyone who's used both like to comment?

I use both on the back and they are as would imagine quite different tyres, tread is much deeper on the purgatory. I've got a purg on for the winter. If you aren't having any problems with the ardent where you ride then there isn't any point in changing.


 
Posted : 03/02/2014 5:20 pm
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I could definitely do with something more in the front. Hitting lots of mud-wrapped pine-needles today and the front washing out. Made it a fun ride - in a way 🙂


 
Posted : 03/02/2014 5:42 pm
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I run 2.25 Ardent EXOs at the back all year in the Peak, haven't really found much better. The Bontrager XR4 is okay, but not as tough in the sidewall I think. If you're loaded, the 2.35 Ikon EXO is a pretty good balance of fast and grippy out back - the side knobs are bigger and grippier than the smaller version - but it's expensive for a relatively minor speed gain. Fast though. Better? I always end up back with the 2.25 Ardent at the back and a 2.5 Minion DHF up front. They just seem to work.


 
Posted : 03/02/2014 6:27 pm
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Looks like another ardent then! Thanks for the replies chaps.


 
Posted : 03/02/2014 9:16 pm
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Hans dampf.


 
Posted : 03/02/2014 10:11 pm
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Maxxis Ikon, had one on the back for about a year and its really good


 
Posted : 03/02/2014 10:25 pm

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