[Closed] lights. what's good for next winter?

Think i'm gonna get the Exposure 6 pack 😯

Brant has some tRout-esque LL lights in the making, and trouty himself is working on some new systems...

What's the verdict on Ay Ups?

Exposure all the way.

3 mates running ay ups and really rate them - quite expensive though

Had my ayups for a few years now, still like them and can't see any point getting anything else. Depends on just how much light you think you need i guess.
Just need to get out night riding more this winter

Light & Motion are doing Seca 1400, plenty of light and a good beam pattern.

got a set of ayups and they work, what more do you need them to do. They aren't the brightest or the cheapest but as a system they are probably one of the best solutions.

very happy with my deal extreme light so far.
only had it out a handful of times early spring, but for the money very happy with it.

EDIT: Doh, didnt read OP. still, worth a consider i think

Lupine Piko

Seca 1400 for me as well, ran a 700 all last winter and was faultless.

Can't wait to see what 1400 lumens look like 🙂

Love my lumicycle 3LED. Upgradeable as well.

Never mind the last swallow of summer. This thread has to be the first sign of autumn, surely.

I've been wondering the same thing but didn't want to say anything 'cos it's only July! 🙂

Also have a lumicycle 3Led upgrade - perfect

Used the On one last winter after my HID packed up. Seemed OK for the price.

TROUT LIGHT.....................awesome. 8)

It's like the Chinese route, only a bit closer to home:

[url] http://www.amazon.co.uk/SSC-P7-LUMENS-CYCLE-POWERFUL/dp/B003F0627M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=sports&qid=1273174256&sr=1-1 [/url]

Awesome amount of light per pound spent - can't wait for my mates to dig out their bigger brand stuff to have a proper compare. Light envy is a terrible thing.....

I quite like this one, but you might have to make your own...
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i have been using the Exposure Maxx joystick and bar combo for the last two winters and they have never let me down. Simple design with good bracket fixing.....what more do you want?

I'm in the process of finalising designs and ordering housings.

Other items in the pipeline too.

Did anyone from here see the 601 on loan at MM ?.

There may be a loaner going for the D2D also, if anyones interested.

Trout and I have been chatting and I reckon theres some good stuff to come out this coming season. His little triple looks promising.
I've been working on a triple too.

Keep watching out for Trout and I.

🙂

Luminous

exposure enduro here

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I think this will do it for me. UK distributor now so now ****in about with china and only 99 quid for a light that looks like mickey mouse!!!

http://www.magicshineuk.co.uk/contact.php

and next day delivery

exposure race maxx on the handlebar and hope 1 led on the helmet - excellent light and no wires to faff about with and easy to charge too.

tazzymtb.

That light is well fugly. If £100 quid is the budget, then perhaps the light from SpokeBloke ?.

But I wouldn't rush, wait and see what Trout and I come up with. After all, its only July.
😉

L

i've got an airbike sl and for the money it's pretty good.

http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/LIABP7-FR-WHT-BLK/airbike-p7-everlight-sl---front---white-led---black-body

well my magicshine from china last year was tops and worked a treat. It was better than my huuuugely powerful HID lightsabre. I think it looks ace (but then I own an ellsworth so my taste is definitely on the ****ed side) and it'll be a very small unit which is nice.

I'm in no rush so lets see what's out there for winter, anything will be better than when i first started night riding (a set of eveready battery lights on a set of scott AT4 bars in the late 80's ) 😀

[i]I'm in no rush so lets see what's out there for winter, anything will be better than when i first started night riding (a set of eveready battery lights on a set of scott AT4 bars in the late 80's )[/i]

Yeah, I know what you mean. When I use to ride with 240 paper lumens, it seemed like loads 🙂 Now we're into 4 figures.

How things change, eah ?.

Cheers

Luminous

Luminous -it almost takes the challenge out of it 😉 ACTUALLY being able to see what's ahead , next we'll all be on night vision riding goggles.

hang on that's an ace idea!

TazzyMTB.

Ha !, yeah, I was saying this to a mate of mine a few years ago, NV goggles. But if you saw what they looked like, no way I was going to turn up to a race with a pair of those on. 😆

Anyway, with the output from some lights now, if you were wearing NVGs, the ligths would probably damage them.

SFB reckoned my light was actually too bright !.

But yeah, NVGs, just think about it, all in the darkness, Spooky, Stealth !.

😀

L

How about these:

http://www.four4th.co.uk/four4th_helmet_bundle.shtml

made in the UK as well. Very good quality...

How [url= http://www.rutlandcycling.com/25306/USE-Exposure-Six-Pack-Front-Light-2011.html ]bright[/url] 😯

Had a sneak preview of the Exposure 6 pack at the Bonty, my god how bright? Its not a small unit but jesus it's like having a mini sun on your bars. Its so bright it could scorch the earth it lights up !!!

As a result it means some 2nd hand Big Daddy's so i think I'll pick up one of those 😀

From the guys who have tested the Micky mouse Bastid here is what you get for your extra money
a light which on paper has more lumens but in real life throws less light down the trail
and runs for less time on a charge . not in their opinion a step forward
over the £50 bastid . be far better buying 2 of the standard bastids .

Lights are getting far too powerfull if you ask me 😉

Whats the average car/motor bike? IT's getting rather silly imo.

Quite fancy one of those new Exposures. Probably not the top of the range one but a Diablo Mk2 would be nice.

I was initially a bit underwhelmed by the first Diablo but I really like it now. I did the Dunwich Dynamo last week and, while my NiteRider Storm is ace, it's also heavy with the battery packs and someting integrated and bright would be the perfect answer. 🙂

Evening trout. Interested in what you have planned as my troutlite was fine last year at D2D, remember meeting you briefly as i was about to go out for a lap. Only problem is i have to throttle it this year as i seem to be doing it solo, so something as a back up would be good.

[i]TROUT LIGHT.....................awesome[/i]

so i've heard , but i've had nor reply to my last two emails, i'd rather support an enthusiast mtber than a big concern too

Rocketdog Mucho apologies Got a new Puter with windows 7 and having a few getting used to it probs ( my fault not the puters )
can you resend either both or a resume of them .

Hi AverageMark Wish I was fit enough to have a go at D2D would love to have a go maybe next year after a major Render down of the lard.

Website having a slow and painfull update but new stuff will be these

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Big mother of a light and its little brothers .

With excelent Batteries By Smudge

I've got a trout light 3 led job, around 550 lumen i think. Much better use of light than the bastid.

I want that badger toasting at 50m, big boy in the middle please 😀

emails found and resent

Slight tangent...what helmet job would yawl recomm'd? Don't want to pay sh*t loads ...(can't get over[b][u] "only £450" for a 6 led unit).

GWT did send me some info on these, but I'd be interested in what the masses use/abuse?

Cheers Gary
will reply in the morning as the wrong side of a nice bottle of red a customer gave my today but any chance of a photo of your battery when you get the chance .

Glad that wee beasty is still going strong Jason Will have to get working on its brother soon ( so many plans but not enough time )

Tazzymtb
still got 4 left of the badger toaster light

Aye still going strong chris. Wouldn't mind stcking some of the new leds in when they are available.

trout YGM re toasting woodland creatures

Already running a Seca 1400 here. At 24-12 I was running it on low and did the whole night on the one battery pack, treated myself to the occasional section on the full 1400.

What impresses me with the L&Ms is not so much the power but how clean the beam pattern is.

Lot of £££ though.

I haven't been impressed with the P7 light, I used it at MM and tried to use it at 24/12 where it promptly cut out leaving me to do a lap in the dark, for those of you that want a laugh this was how happy I was about [url= http://joolzedymond.com/photocart/index.php?do=photocart&viewImage=104266 ]that[/url] Joolze capturing me at the end of that lap. After that I borrowed my team mates joystick with 240 lumens which I much preferred to the P7 despite it's 900 lumens. The joysick seamed to use the light so much better whereas the p7 just spreads it out far too much (and mine seams way down on power compared to another mates P7 torch.) So for me it would seam you get what you pay for.

Iain

I am interested in the light engines from cutter lie this for homebrew
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Thats a 700 lumen (ish!) one
or this for wildlife frying
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TJ
the first one is very difficult to fit an optic to specially the optics which work best for the MCE.

the second 7 led jobbie has promise and I am waiting for some more info about its control features .
it has the ability to switch the centre 3 leds or all 7 but dimming is as yet still waiting for clarifcation and depends on a minimum amount of units purchased.
yes this may be the engine for my badger burner in the future but it is as yet unavailable .
The price though is about the same as a 7 led board and a Maxflex driver.

But I wouldn't rush, wait and see what Trout and I come up with. After all, its only July.

Yeah, but come late Autumn everyone would have sold out and/or its taking several months for stuff to get off the boat from China 😉

Ta troutie.

I have enough lights that I have made already really

[i]Yeah, but come late Autumn everyone would have sold out and/or its taking several months for stuff to get off the boat from China[/i]

Well, if you want to get in early, I have some units available, and I'm sure Trout has too.

Some people on here probably missed it, but I placed two 601's in the classifieds recently, at [u]discount[/u].

Still got one left.

100% happy customers so far.
😉

Luminous
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TJ.

Got any pictures ?. Always interested to see homebrew stuff.
🙂

Luminous

Well, I FINALLY got round to getting my Lumi LED conversion sorted out in time for the 24/12. This was after Chucky@vortexracing's group order (much) earlier this year.

Got it finished too late to do any reliability testing or even run-time tests, so just used it and it was fine. Plenty of light - especially coupled with the 20W Lumi halogen.
The diagram that (I think) Trout provided me for wiring up with a 3-way switch was spot-on (thank you Trout) and allowed off-high-mid running.

Next time I take the bike to Thetford I'll probably take the LED with me (and my mates that I also converted) and run them both on full for a run-time test. I suspect they'll outlast the ride though, to be honest.

I'll get some pics sorted at some point & post them up. At the moment I'm not really sure whether the narrow or the mid lens is better. If the conversion proves reliable I'll be doing another one in time for the D2D and impending winter - although I suspect that running one LED lamp with the large Lumi battery will get me through the race without a recharge (in a pairs team).

I am debating whether to get a helmet light for this winter and am currently weighing up the options.

Luminous. Hopefully click on the image for the full size. The one on the left and in the pic on its own is a MCE with maxflex driver in the unit, the rest are single crees or a big triple.
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Troutie - any news on my light rebuild?

Thanks,
Chris.

**** cxi, is there a queue?

Oi troutie! what happened to you on Sunday ? I was looking forward to getting into your ribs about your lights 😉

Solo - Member
Stumpy01.

Is Thetford a local/regular ride for you ?.

L

Yeah, used to be once a week, generally on a Thursday evening. Kinda went off the boil for a while as everyone was always busy, but now trying to get back into it again.
Went last night and it was really dry & sandy. We stuck to the red & black, as I imagine at this time of year all the unmarked trails will be really nettley....

Stumpy01

Are you needing lights in there, under the tree cover, now ?.

Think I need to stop off there soon, one night after work.

Ta

L

Luminious - we were there until about 8:30 last night (I know this as the chip shop had closed by the time I got home :o( ) and it was still plenty light enough not to need any lights. I reckon by 9 it might be getting a bit dull in some of the denser foresty bits.

I wanna take the lights along just for a run-time test, but shouldn't actually need them until mid/late September.

Bring your bucket and spade! Some of the corners are really deep sand and there was tyre wash-outs aplenty.

I can't fault me LEDgend Lights [url= http://www.ledgendlights.co.uk/ ]Clicky[/url]

In answer to the "how birght are car headlights" question,

10W halogen ~ 250 lumens (on paper, in reality you only get about 2/3 of this on the road/trail due to lenses and inacurate/misleading data)

65W car main beam (you can buy a 100W but technical those are illegal IIRC) is therefore arround 1600 lumens.

The problem is a car light is directed down and to the side in an L shape so leaving oncoming drivers in a dark patch. Car lights are also bigger physicaly so don't look very bright when your staring at them.

Take a look at these the new Ray-3a light is now sorted and is brighter than the Exposure Maxs-D, see the photos, http://www.liteoption.com and its only 72g on your helmet.

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Whats the average car/motor bike? IT's getting rather silly imo.

For a car - about 700 lumens dipped, 1200 on main beam (standardish halogen).

I wish I hadn't read this thread.

I am now learning all about the different lighting options available to me. I think the missus will kill me if I start rabbiting on about lights.

Quirrel.

No need to fret. Just save your pennies, and come September, you may be able to obtain a light from me or Trout. Either way, you'll have one heck of a light.

Yan ?, yeah... 😉
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Not the brightest, nor the cheapest, but I love my Hope 4.

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Hey up Lowey
I was desperate to make it but bloody work cropped up and it was needed more than a ride .

Saw the photo`s and was pissed to miss it on a nice day .

Next one if there is going to be one -- Owt planned anyone

That's very nice Luminous but I'd be a bit worried about losing the fish on a rough downhill.

avDave2.

😆 Good one, yeah, fish not included.

If you must have a fish though, get yourself over to Angel Acquatics (where the pic and vid were made), Stuart will help you out with anything, hes part-fish, we think.
🙂
I inlcuded the fish, just in case people thought I was being tricky with photo-shop and a still image.

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I don't think my photography skills are quite up there with Trout's, but you get the idea.
😉

Ignore the foam on the bar too, the owner had misplaced the proper rubber shim that comes with the light to allow it to fit smaller diameter bars 🙄

I normally suggest mounting the light next to the stem.

Cheers

L

ledtech.de have some interesting light engines
[url= http://www.led-tech.de/en/High-Power-LEDs-Cree/CREE-Solutions/4-x-CREE-MC-E-on-round-PCB-LT-1679_120_117.html ]this is 4x mce - 3000 lumen theeoretical max![/url]

Budget Option:

My mate just showed me 2 led lights he got from a pound shop, yes £1 each. Yeah, they're not 1000 lumins, but stick 10 along the bars and you might have something useable! This is untested, but for a tenner!?! Could even sick a few on you lid too!

Is that the new Trout then, I'm a total newbie to the entire LED revolution...still running my Lumicycle HID (used it about 10 times only since new, 2006)

What's the damage for that mother then?

Ive been using a 7 UP From Troutie
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Like the look of that 3a Yan. I'll wait to see what trout and luminous come up with (preferably also with 3 LEDS), but you have set the bar high with that one!

Lumicycle are selling HID systems off at [url= http://www.lumicycle.com/product/210/wwwlumicyclecomclearanceledhtm.htm ]£149.99.[/url]

My old one's looking dim, after 7 years, the new one has been ordered.

I reckon it will be a £50 Bastid this year. Just waiting to see if the current model changes, the 5 mode one, between now an October.