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Rode my set of 29er hookless xc rims on hope hubs for the first time around the Glentress 7 on Sat. They were awesome. Accelerate so quickly and are super stiff and accurate. They came in at 340grms each. 40grms less than 29er crest.
Whole wheel build was 1600grms with sapim race spokes. You could easily go sub 1500grms but I wanted some robustness.
@alexsimon - http://www.light-bicycle.com/bead-hook-less-rims-carbon-29er-light-bike-rim-tubeless-compatible.html#.U4hjSfldV8E
Thanks mikeep - I thought they looked like the ones, but could only find 29er size (probably wont buy a 29er)
Most of these seem to be massive rims at a similar weight to alu xc rims
Yes. This is entirely my objective. wide, low pressure tyres with well supported sidewalls due to the wide rims, without the weight of a big alu rim. Ancillary benefits are increased stiffness and strength.
Yes, I can understand that this is what a lot of people want.
I only weigh 58kg though so most things are overbuilt for me. Rims are one of the few opportunities where I can buy something more appropriate for my weight.
Have people found the quoted ERD of 589mm to be correct for the 35mm 29er rim?
The DT calculator is giving me lengths of 284mm and 285mm for hope Pro 2 evo hubs.
If I understand correctly, and those lengths are correct, I need to buy 286mm spokes?
the ERD on my 26in rims was bigger than stated, though the error could be on either side, but I'm glad I waited to measure them.
I can check mine tonight if you want? I can’t remember the length off the top of my head (they were bought in by my LBS mate), but I have a few spare spokes still in the box at home. 35mm 29er rims on Pro2 Evo hubs.
Perfect, thanks.
Yes, I can understand that this is what a lot of people want.
I only weigh 58kg though so most things are overbuilt for me. Rims are one of the few opportunities where I can buy something more appropriate for my weight.
They do a c320g 26" rim. Not hookless though. Email and ask for pair at the light end of their range and they'll do it.
Dave - my Supercomps are 286mm.
Alexsimon- if you can point me to an Ali 29er 35mm wide rim that weighs 420g - I'm all ears!!!
Much appreciated Yetiman!
Did you build with 12mm or 14mm nipples?
Alexsimon- if you can point me to an Ali 29er 35mm wide rim that weighs 420g - I'm all ears!!!
That isn't what I said. I said light bicycle make 35mm rims at a similar weight to narrower alu rims.
No worries Dave. The nipples are 12mm silver brass ones.
well my 650b 35mm hookless on pro2s were excellent at ews, no bother with some of the nastiest rocks and roots ive had to deal with
Is anyone running 2.1 tyres on the 35mm rims? I'd like to replace my Crest/Arch Ex combo with carbon, and am tempted by the 35s, but don't want to have to always run big tyres.
mtbr have fallen out of love with the LB rims......
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Looking at that thread there seems to be some debate as to whether they're LB rims
fuzzhead - Member
Looking at that thread there seems to be some debate as to whether they're LB rims
Only because the morons who replied later in the thread, failed to read all the previous sub sectioned replies before wading in with opinions. LB are quite clearly named by MTBR in the reply asking to name and shame.
Shit breaks.
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We really have no clue how hard a rider this was. There is a massive difference between riders, and how they use the stuff. 160mm travel bike makes me think they are quite gnarrrr.
Saw the fb thread last night. You have to wonder what sponsor influence is going on for a site to be so vocal about a particular brand.
Ironically, their own mtbr thread about lb rims is the biggest one on the net and has minimal failures being reported.
You only ever hear of the bad news/problems. Never from the people that run them with no issues. But if people are riding these rims expecting them to perform miracles then they are fools. As said above. Shit breaks.
Shit breaks, you haul ass on the jumps you are going to crack stuff. I'm more than confident that i'll never stress my carbon rims beyond their durability. MTBR is home of the nasty smear campaign, always has been when the vested interests come out to protect themselves.
One rim does not a summer make. Just looking at the way LB rims are sold, direct to customer accounts for them being 50% less expensive than any other brand, add in their none US labour and that accounts for them being half as much as ENVE rims once again.
There's really no story here other than rider no one knows breaks part in unconfirmed circumstances. And given we've all seen broken ENVE rims at £800 who really cares.
This bit was fairly telling:
[i][b]Doug Mann[/b][/i] I was behind him when the crack/crash occurred (on a smaller jump that he popped pretty high to a flattish landing). For one thing, this guy goes BIG and rides hard on tech trails. He's sticking with LB's but switching to the DH version. Their failure rate is no worse than Enve's--according to the 100's of pages of reviews on MTBR! Putting down the rims is bit disingenuous. Scot Nicol from Ibis checked out their factory and has stated that their solid rims; they just couldn't produce enough for them.
The ENVE rim above was ridden cracked if I remember the pinkbike article
Just noticed these folks amongst the comments - http://www.nextie-bike.com/
They do carbon fatbike rims too
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Indeed it was, still failed pretty catastrophically in a short period between crack appearing though, perfectly plausible that most folk wouldn't notice the crack. Not really the point either.
I'm trying to decide between Nextie and LB for my 35mm rim. I have a fatbike rim on order.
Update on my 29er 35mm LBs for anyone interested. Had them rebuilt with DT Supercomps, came in at 1700g dead on the shop scales with Hope Pro 2s, were 1800g previously with Sapim Race. Pretty pleased with the weight, lightest set of wheels I've ever owned.
Set them up tubeless last night, the Hans Dampfs aren't quite as tight now they've been on and off a few times. One wrap of Superstar 29mm tape (fits perfectly), poured in some Stans and then pumped them up with a track pump without rotating the wheel so effectively no sealant. Went up and held 40psi straight away, reassuring pops from the beads seating. Think these will be much more secure tubeless than my e13s.
Rode today with about 25psi, usually ride 30-35psi tubed, grip was superb (as was the stiffness). Hope the rims hold up because I'm loving them so far. Wasn't really convinced about tubeless last time I tried but feels great with these rims.
Mine have arrived at last, they've been sat in customs for 14 days and in the end went and picked them up from Parcelforce !
26" 33mm wide AM rims with hope pro2 bare they weigh 1575g so about 200g lighter than the mavic crossmax they are replacing.
Fitted a rock razor on the back and trail king on the front, couldn't believe how tight they are to get on but inflate with ease and feel solid when seated
looking forward to testing
This thread is useless without pics of wheels and bikes.
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Mine are supposed to arrive tomorrow! Getting exited now! I'm hoping to get them built up by the weekend, so hopefully I will be back to say good things about them then.
Liking the replica decals - where from?
For Goodness Sake.
Stickerless is where its at, not ENVY copy sticker tat!
Oh dear.
Light bicycle did them for me, they're not identical copies.
Lucky for you their on my wheels and not yours.
Should get mine back built this week. Went with pro 2 hubs, dt revs and brass nipples.
Wouldn't go for fake stickers myself but I think they look good and go with the rest of the bike well so why not.
Here's mine;
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I ve got a set of brand new 32 hole ones for sale if anybody's interested. They look awesome rims
26 or 29?
26. The 33 wide hookless ones. In matt ud
Shame, I'm after 29.
Ha typical. If anybody's interested can be posted today first class so have them this week. Not the normal 5 weeks £225 posted
LB said they wouldn't do replica decals when I asked them, so I take it you just sent your own proofs?
As for the haters, get over yourselves, it's his bike not yours. I've got a mondraker sticker on one of my bikes, it isn't a mondraker, I like the colour and it covers a scratch well....
As for the haters, get over yourselves
No, putting enve stickers on LB rims is ridiculous unless the owner of bike is 9 years old.
It's pretty tragic.
That said, they arn't actually Enve stickers, they are just made to look VERY similar.
No, putting enve stickers on LB rims is ridiculous unless the owner of bike is 9 years old.
This
tragic.
and this.
its just some stickers
enve do have quite cool graphics, if a bit loud for my tastes
my LB rims do look a bit boring in just plain black tbh!
Are people blind? They are not enve stickers!! Looks like a lb made to look a bit like the enve graphic to me. I personally quite like it and adds a bit of colour, which happens to match the frame.
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Cheers for posting the weight davosaurus. Is that with brass nips?
Pics of my 35mm 29er wheels.....
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Tyres look as big as my 2.5 inch DH High rollers!
Not keen on those knock off pseudo ENVE graphics. Wrong on a number of levels.
Tried out my new 35mm hookless at the weekend at 25psi front and 27psi back. Good grip but I'm thinking of trying lower pressures having read that tyres don't fold over as much as on narrower rims. Just concerned that i'd be risking rim damage. Any experience and thoughts on this?
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What the hell is that in the background? Have you parked your MR2 in Action Force's garage?
Not keen on those knock off pseudo ENVE graphics. Wrong on a number of levels.
I don't really get it. Does he want people to think he's got Enve wheels? Or does he just like the graphics?
35mm hookless, 12k.
Great wheels. I'm using hans dampf atm. Did have butcher /Purgatory which worked quite well but on these rims the carcass was wider than the tread so experimenting with the hd.
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Lulz, oh dear. Very tragic indeed. (Aimed at the ENVE envierer)
12k 650b hookless 35mm, survived the EWS
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prob try it with an HD/ ardent combo,when I can be bothered! had the HR2s on for enduro gnar racing
oh dear indeed- sticking enve copy decals is shocking, id be more inclined if i was going to do it, to just buy some proper enve decals and play them off as the real thing
its almost abit like those jumpers/clothing in the 90s that used to say 'tommy hilfinger' instead of 'tommy hilfigger'
embarrasing TBH, they've even put the number 70 to be like the new m series of enve 🙁
dont get it
They're still not Enve decals. Seems like you can either laugh at the joke, or be furious... My rigid forks had an Ohlins sticker on one leg and a TF Tuned logo on the other, glad I never posted pics of that on here, there'd have been riots.
Don't like the 70s though, they just look bad to me (and really not much like the Enve 70s)
Me neither. You can just about get away with the "I like the graphics" defence for the logos, but there's no reason to have the 70s on there except to look like Enves. Each to their own.
Not keen on the 12k weave either myself.
Yetiman - yep, brass nipples.
Again, not my bike but the gloss 12k weave on waldo's bike is an acquired taste, hurts my eyes more than fake Enve stickers!
i like my matte 12k
as for waldo....
blue- purple shimmery, swirly fade, with blue hubs, nipples, purple brakes and green pedals, the rims are the least of the issues there
Whats the deepest rim LB do in the 29er flavour?
I want 35mm wide but want them as deep as Derbys.
How come? Not really any aero benefit on the MTB, and zero real world stiffness benefits.
dare i say it the weave ones look cheap
just plain black carbon ones FTW, unless of course genuine enve then the lairy decals look great!
Don't think you can make it out in the photo but mine are the 3K matt. I really like them.
njee20 - Member
How come? Not really any aero benefit on the MTB, and zero real world stiffness benefits.
Isn't stiffness the main benefit of carbon rims? Or is that lateral only?
I definitely noticed a stiffness improvement on my 33mm DH hookless ones - particularly on tight switchbacks, rock gardens etc vs a similar weight alloy rim.
Just looking for a good vinyl printer to get me some Enve graphics to create STW fury meltdown! Are "almost but not quite" Enve stickers this year's Superstar in terms of outrage? 😉
Northwind - MemberThey're still not Enve decals. Seems like you can either laugh at the joke, or be furious... My rigid forks had an Ohlins sticker on one leg and a TF Tuned logo on the other, glad I never posted pics of that on here, there'd have been riots.
Eh? Obvious irony is one thing, trying to pass off cheap kit as something much more expensive is quite another.
No outrage here, just pity 😛
I think what some of us are saying is that it's his bike, he paid for the bits so he can do what he likes. Cheer up and all that.
legend - Membertrying to pass off cheap kit as something much more expensive is quite another
Which he hasn't done...
the irony of it is, his wheels arent actually 'cheap' by any means, they are decent carbon rims (and no doubt decent hubs im sure) and really quite expensive/at least as much as hopepro2/flows so not a cheapo halfords wheelset just with dodgy enve stickers on
like i said if i was putting on decals that i wanted to match up with the bike, id just order some enve decals themself from slikgraphics or similar!
you'd eaasily pass them off as enves (which is the intention of your fake ones), and no one would know any different riding by, how ever if i saw them out as they stand theyd catch my eyes and id realise they are just a copy which get the roll eyes from me, which of course you'd be devastated by 😉
sack those decals off and get some red enve proper ones
Isn't stiffness the main benefit of carbon rims? Or is that lateral only?
Deeper carbon rim over shallower one, not carbon vs alu.
I like the 3k matt ones too.