Sizing is a tricky one though. Swung my leg over an S5 and it felt huge, on paper should be the same size as my G1, are spesh true to their word or doing a Trek with fudging the numbers slightly ?
Riding buddy has a G1 in longest and I have a S5, they do feel ever so slightly different when not rolling, but I put this down to one fork choice, tyre choice, bar height and stem length, once pointed down they feel the same though fit wise
Sizing is a tricky one though. Swung my leg over an S5 and it felt huge, on paper should be the same size as my G1
My S4 'feels' pretty much identical to my large Dreadnought in terms of sizing. I'm not a fan of massive bikes though, so feel wise, it's right in the sweet spot for me.
The bigger issue is the ST length. I can only (literally bottomed out) run a 210 dropper in the S4. There is no way I could run it on the S5. I'd rather run a slightly smaller bike with a decent length dropper than something with a 170 post these days!
My S4 ‘feels’ pretty much identical to my large Dreadnought in terms of sizing. I’m not a fan of massive bikes though, so feel wise, it’s right in the sweet spot for me.
My G1 doesn't feel massive, but am looking at something slightly smaller, as at times the G1 can feel a bit barge like. Borrowed a large vitus before Christmas and it was definitely better through the turns, but didn't feel as confident on steeper sections or when jumping, something in between would be ideal. Can see my xc bike getting swapped out for something a bit smaller as well
The bigger issue is the ST length. I can only (literally bottomed out) run a 210 dropper in the S4. There is no way I could run it on the S5. I’d rather run a slightly smaller bike with a decent length dropper than something with a 170 post these days!
Bottomed out on the collar, or the bottom of the post ?
Riding buddy has a G1 in longest and I have a S5, they do feel ever so slightly different when not rolling, but I put this down to one fork choice, tyre choice, bar height and stem length, once pointed down they feel the same though fit wise
On paper they are close, the top tube is long on the kenevo though, wish companies would adopt the nukeproof way of measure the offset from the BB.
Bottomed out on the collar, or the bottom of the post ?
Bottom of the post. Running a 31.6 as apparently there is a touch more clearance as it chamfers down internally (literally a few mm).
It sits about 5-6cm out of the top of the collar on the seat tube, and was touch/go whether I was going to be able to run the full length, but I was, just. A super low profile seat might work like the NP one to gain a few extra mm, but would need a shorter clamp bolt as it would touch the base of the seat otherwise.
You wouldn't happen to know the distance between the centre of the crank the saddle rail?
I can measure it for you later if it helps.
Yes please
Well for anyone remotely interested... Came back round full circle and decided the Orbea Rise was a better option for me in the end...

Got a Large M10 (pictured above) arriving imminently, will be stripping it, invisiframing it, then full build with my existing SRAM X01, Mavic Deemax's etc (but retaining the Fox Factory suspension) as soon as I can.
Rapidly came to the conclusion that the Kenevo SL would be too much bike for me. Yes I could have reduced stroke on the shock and fork slightly to take it to 155/160mm, but it's just too much bike for most of what I ride. The Levo SL would be fine as a bit of a stop gap, but long term I don't think I'd be happy living with the slack seat angle and the fact there's a replacement due sooner than later. Orbea just made more sense.
Nice that Mark.
That does look good, enjoy your new bike!
Demo'd an S4 from Ace on saturday, bought/collected one yesterday from another shop (Ace didn't have any in stock).
Wouldn't want to go to an S5, S4 feels bigger than it is on paper, didn't feel a whole lot of difference when I jumped on my G1 on Sunday.
Already changed the brakes (cura's), shifter/mech (xtr), bar/stem and waiting for a dropper to turn up. Going to speak to Mojo about an E-Storia for the back, as coil for me is better.
Coil works really well on the KSL. I am running a new DHX2 on it, also the full 65mm stroke. I am potentially controversially going to say, the new DHX2 might just be the best coil shock i've used 🙂
Which other coils have you had on there ?
Estoria is currently tip of the list, so it has a similar feel to the g1, forks will also be the same on both bikes, currently on Era's but they don't seem to like the cold
I have one. The base alloy model.
I liked it so much, I got one for my girlfriend.
The spec is fine. I have only changed the saddle and grips.
Power... you get all you deserve... its enough to get up anything. However you still have to join in the climbs, you know... ride the bike.
I wrote some words about the Levo SL here
I wrote some words about the Levo SL here

Wow. The colour is mental. So bright, strong and in your face.
The bike's a nice colour too... 😉