You don't need to be an 'investor' to invest in Singletrack: 6 days left: 95% of target - Find out more
Can anyone offer an view of the lake wide fit, I am searching for a shoe with a wide forefoot but a reasonably narrow heel cup.
I ended up with the MX241 wide but the thing to realise is that they use several different lasts. In fact, some of their wide shoes are wider than the extra wide.
RXM Custom in Huthwaite have a great selection and David knows his way around them all.
I believe you can draw around your foot and send it to him.
I got MX238s last year. The width is great and has solved my hotspot problems (could also be due to carbon soles), however the heel cup isn't what I'd describe as narrow. There is some rough material in the heel cup to help with gripping the foot, however I still get some slippage when walking unless I tighten the boa closer to the ankle considerably more than I would for on the bike.
On the bike slippage has never been a problem at all.
SigmaSports sell Lake and have free returns.
Just to potential throw a curve ball I found the Lake shoes wide enough but the wrong shape of last.
My Bontragers are slightly narrowed but 'feel' wider and don't cause any issues becuase the shape seems to fit me better. More information below as they can describe it better than I can:
https://www.cyclefit.co.uk/journal/if-the-shoe-fits
Recently invested in some 146 boots.
Definitely wide at the toe and across the ball of my foot.
But they are baggy in the heel. Not a massive issue, but they wallow a bit. And creak because of the spare material flapping around the instep.
So they are massively comfortable compared to other shoes (Northwave GTXs) and stop cold feet, but they are not what I'd want if I was racing (I don't race so not a problem).
Other more pressing issue is their lack of cleat retention. Have now lost a whole cleat and a cleat bolt over a couple of rides because it seems the bolts work their way loose.
I've given up on the recommended torques now, and slathered them in threadlock but am not totally convinced they'll retain the cleats.
But otherwise (very) decent shoes, so I'm persevering.
SaltDog cycles worth a shout if you have questions.
RXM Custom in Huthwaite have a great selection and David knows his way around them all.
Another vote here 👍
I've got two pairs; MX238 and MX241.
The MX238's have a really roomy toe box but do need to be cranked down a bit for the heel. Once tightened properly I don't get any noticeable heel lift when riding. A bit of heel lift off the bike isn't really an issue tbh.
The MX241's are a bit weird. I bought the MX238's from Salt Dog Cycles and Richard there was extremely helpful getting me fitted and into a correctly sized pair. The MX241's are supposed to be the exact same last as the MX238, and when you look at the sole they are exactly the same. Because of this, when I found a pair of MX241's in my size heavily discounted on Alltricks, I pulled the trigger without considering that the fit might be different.
The heel cup is definitely superior to the MX238. No heel lift at all, and even if there was, it's heat-moldable so you can get it exactly right.
However, the toe box of the MX241 is nowhere near as generous as the MX238, and I've been getting quite a bit of toe rub from my smallest toes on one of my feet. I do have weirdly shaped peasant's / hobbit feet though, and ideally need a fully square toe box. I think if I sized up to a 44 instead of 43.5 it would alleviate the problem slightly, but just mentioning this because if you are debating which one to go for, they do fit differently (despite the fact that the Lake website says their sizing is the same).
Hope this helps.
@devaah
Really interesting comments. I spent a long time trying both the 238 and 241 and found the fit to be the same. I went with the 241 because the toebox was softer. I was looking for the most toe space possible.
Maybe the difference we found was just a manufacturing tolerance thing.
The heat mouldable heel cup made all the difference though.
@Onzadog - Could be. To be honest, my 241's do look a tad shorter than the 238's so might be a mislabeling issue.
I too found the forefoot best with the 238, but heel better on 241. I went with the 238, and do get some heel lift when walking but it's never a problem when riding. A 238 with the rough fabric in the heel AND a mouldable cup would probably be perfect.
Oh and I also highly recommend David at rxmcustom.co.uk
I have taken a gamble on some mx 241 endurance wide fit. I can send them back if they are not suitable. As they have a moldable heel cup I think they should be ok.
Spending a few years wearing altra trainers (ond other foot shaped shoes) really has highlighted the problems with the last of cycling shoes as my foot has spread to a more natural shape. Also complicates matter needing a size 50, its pretty rare if I can get my size, never mind size up to accommodate the stupid pointy fashion of cycling shoes.
I just got some Boardman Carbon Road shoes for this fit. Lovely for the money and capacious forefoot whikst gripping heel. No idea if their mtb shoes are same though.