[Closed] Kelly Mcgarry On Hope Wheels For Rampage

To be fair, coming up short on thr Canyon gap and/or that ridiculous race down steps in China would have destroyed any wheel

I thought he was on Atomic labs DHR's in china but yeah I agree.

They've got 7 riders on their wheels according to their FB page, quite an achievement!

Would guess they are on the Tech SD:
http://www.hopetech.com/eurobike-2015-part-2/

How many of the rampage riders are on 27.5 bikes?

I thought for that kind of riding the 26" was still in favour?

Some on 27.5 bikes with 26 inch wheels.

rhid - Member

How many of the rampage riders are on 27.5 bikes?

I thought for that kind of riding the 26" was still in favour?

I'd imagine most, if not all will be on 650b.

The majority of them work for the bike companies either directly or by sponsorship.

Bearclaw raised enough eyebrows riding a Status last year instead of the Demo, no way Spesh would have let him wheel out an old model.

So, really it doesn't matter what the rider would prefer, or what's the best wheel size, if they want to keep their sponsorship deals they'll ride the latest version of their sponsors big bike.

P-Jay - Member
rhid - Member
How many of the rampage riders are on 27.5 bikes?

I thought for that kind of riding the 26" was still in favour?
I'd imagine most, if not all will be on 650b.

The majority of them work for the bike companies either directly or by sponsorship.

Bearclaw raised enough eyebrows riding a Status last year instead of the Demo, no way Spesh would have let him wheel out an old model.

Plenty on Pinkbike reckon Specialized didn't want Claw on a Carbon Demo, dunno if true. He's on Canyon this year.

Most YT riders running specially tweaked Tues with 26" wheels.

Yeah Cam Zinc's on 26" this year. Actually he was the only riders bike I could find info on!

Vink was on 26" last year on a 27.5 Gambler.

Maybe the manufactures are keeping quite about who is riding what sized wheels!!

Gambler has adjustable setup, will take either wheelsize.

honourablegeorge - Member

The majority of them work for the bike companies either directly or by sponsorship.

Bearclaw raised enough eyebrows riding a Status last year instead of the Demo, no way Spesh would have let him wheel out an old model.

Plenty on Pinkbike reckon Specialized didn't want Claw on a Carbon Demo, dunno if true. He's on Canyon this year.

Most YT riders running specially tweaked Tues with 26" wheels.

Martin Söderström went with the Status too when he rode the Rampage back in 2012. He reckoned it was the more suitable bike and Spec. had nothing to say in the matter. Whether he and Bearclaw are on the same sponsorship terms in inknown though.

I have a status. I am not riding it down the rampage course!

The Claw's new Canyon "looks" like it has 26" wheels.....however without confirmation it would be difficult to say!

I think Graham Aggassiz is a 26" wheel rider too. Is there any particular reason that they are going 26" and not 27.5? Would it be to do with shifting the bike about in the air? Would the different wheel sizes really make a whole lot of difference? There must be some benefit of the smaller wheels or people wouldn't be using them!

Is there any particular reason that they are going 26" and not 27.5?

helpful1.....this is stw,you'll be wanting Pinkbike for insightful and well thought out responses like that.

Surely apart from the initial generalisation, he's not wrong though.

The normal trade-off is better rollover and larger contact patch.

Neither of which matter too much for Rampage when you can run as gnarly a tyre as you like and groom the trail.

Also - lets not forget that many of us ride 27.5 not because it's any better, but because that was what was available and will resell best.

Also - lets not forget that many of us ride 27.5 not because it's any better, but because that was what was available and will resell best.

Anybody who bases their buying decision on resale value these days is probably making a mistake. There are smart people in the marketing departments of big companies who are working very hard to make sure that whatever you buy today will be considered obsolete on a couple of years (or sooner if they can manage). Last year it was 27.5, this year it is Boost, next year it will be something else, but the end result is the same. Nobody (or very few people) will want your nice new bike in a few years.

Rothchild is right.
Pinkbike has far more decent riders who actually know what they're talking about.

helpful1 - Member
Rothchild is right.
Pinkbike has far more decent riders who actually know what they're talking about.

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isn't it about ball size not wheel size?

helpful1 - Member

Pinkbike has far more decent riders who actually know what they're talking about.

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Ha, he's a card isn't he?

Actually. If you've got some 26" wheels I've got a XBox I can swap for them?

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I thought he was on Atomic labs DHR's in china but yeah I agree.

he destroyed the AtomLab DHR's in both the China and Rampage crash. they're mega tough rims so the impact must have been massive on both occasions

Kona kept the process 167 26inch for Aggy

Assuming he's on that or is he on an operator?

Articles and classifieds are far better on Pinkbike than on here

we've got snobbery that's out of their league, though 😀

Wouldnt you want the strongest wheels you can get for Rampage? Therefore 26"

He ought of been using the old Atomic labs trail pimp. I had some and they were so strong but 895g each. They would of broke rampage before rampage broke them.

helpful1 is right in his first post.

26" will be lighter, stronger, and rolling won't matter so much.

Won't be much lighter or much stronger as they're very similar wheel sizes but there you go!

Strait from the mouth of some one who knows better than any of us muppets on here.
Taken from pinkbike
According to Zink, for DH racing he prefers to run a 27.5” wheel in the front and a 26” in the back, but when it comes time for Rampage, he finds that the slightly smaller wheels make it easier to maneuver the bike for flips and spins. A pair of Novatec Demon wheels are mounted up with a 2.7” Kenda Nevegal in the front and a 2.4” Honey Badger in the rear, both set up tubeless and inflated to 40 psi. That's higher than usual, but the reasoning is that a little less traction is better than running the risk of rolling a tire off the rim mid-run.

plenty on 26

but forget wheelsize, some are on carbon!!

http://www.pinkbike.com/news/the-bikes-red-bull-rampage-2015.html

Doerfling on Hope cranks too. That bloke's a maniac so that's a good advert for Hope.
I wonder if any of the demo riders will hit the gap?

As for advertising for Hope, they can't lose.

If anyone has a massive crash and destroys their rims, then it will prove how extreme Rampage is. If someone has a massive crash and the rims survive, then it will prove how tough Hope rims are.

The few knobbers that go "well, Hope rims are crap, just look at what X rider did to them" is missing the point that 99.999% of riders will never huck themselves off a Utah cliff.

he finds that the slightly smaller wheels make it easier to maneuver the bike for flips and spins. A pair of Novatec Demon wheels are mounted up with a 2.7” Kenda Nevegal in the front

Would a 26 x 2.7 not be very similar to a 650 x 2.3?

And if he's running at 40psi then why run a 2.7 as it cant be for grip can it?

Really?

You need tyre size choice explained to you?

hitting high speed moto sized dirt jumps?
landing massive drops onto vert rock strewn moon dust?
landing spins?
here's a clue... Would he need to run a 2.3 at even higher pressure?

think about it.

try to remember all the other advantages of not running fashion rims too.

Just had a look at the pinkbike coverage. James Doerfling & Nicholi Rogatkin are running 2.4

I dont follow jumping and badass stuff, just though saying I like small wheels then sticking a massive tyre on it seemed odd

Would a 26 x 2.7 not be very similar to a 650 x 2.3?

He ought of been using the old Atomic labs trail pimp. I had some and they were so strong but 895g each. They would of broke rampage before rampage broke them.

all that shows Gonzy is that tyre manufacturers do not measure their tyre sizes the same way or even very accurately.

thepodge - Member

I dont follow jumping and badass stuff, just though saying I like small wheels then sticking a massive tyre on it seemed odd

Why? It's still smaller and lighter than a bigger wheel with a massive tyre on.

I've never seen a 2.7 nevegal in the flesh but nevegals are usually accurately sized, I reckon it'll be mahoosive. (there'd be no point making an undersized 2.7 when they do an accurately sized 2.5). With other brands, aye, a modern 2.4 maxxis is almost the same size as a 2.7 highroller, because they use a supertacky rubber ruler.

It'll be all fat bikes next year.

Why? It's still smaller and lighter than a bigger wheel with a massive tyre on

But it looks like some are running small wheel and big tyres while others are running bigger wheels and small tyres so maybe there's not much difference

I dont really care

I think basically, some people want one thing and some want something different.

Also, there is nothing so interesting, that I can't turn it into a boring STW tyre/wheelsize thread.

very true, no one cares if they did a back flip off the moon, what wheel size was it

Evening. Wow, going back a few months STW'ers were ripping into me when I started a topic saying 650b was underwhelming for me and I preferred my 650b Commencal V4 as a 650b frame/26-wheeled hybrid.

The jist seemed to be 'designers & bike companies know better than you'.

Only two posters agreed with my general premise that 26 is better i.e more fun; one was Jedi.

Pinkbike seems to have the Xbox stigma but it also seems to have alot of riders who do know a different angle to riding than stw which is fantastic for both niche, great souls and the odd wierdy.

I'm still riding and loving my V4 on 26' wheels and I still have my fancy new 650b wheels gathering dust in the shed.

I thought Mgarry was sponsored by Hope but he was running Saint brakes this weekend.

Well Shimano make **** wheels but great brakes and Hope vice versa? 8)