[Closed] Just out riding when....

No Idea what would happen, probably still a dangerous occurance(/dog) though. You get the same with horses that are scared of bikes, walkers, dogs, shadows and bizarely my camera tripod.

Jamie

You riding on a footpath isnt illegal, her dog biting you is. As far as i know anyway.

Report before they do bite, aggression and not under control.

3's the magic number.
I felt bad for a buddys once lean now tubby GSP dog last week, took him for a ride with my dog and another friend and his dog. Making 3 dogs. They know each other well and have hung out happily for 6 years now.
The 'extra dog' (3rd) added to the mix made them all behave like a bunch of antisocial d*cks when meeting other trail users dogs.
Alone, or pairs, these dogs are fine.. when you get to pack numbers (3), it changes.. I'd forgotten.
I will not be riding with those 3 dogs together again, ever.. more stress than it was worth. Its not an excuse, but was MY mistake for taking them together.

My friends dog used to chase bikes, so he asked for my help and we have it to the point where the dog avoids bikes i wouldn't say scared of bikes but moves away from them.
If a dog comes at me its getting my boot as hard as i can.

Report before they do bite, aggression and not under control.

In the event of you getting bitten by her dogs this will be the greater offence
Just like if i assault you on a footpath it will be the greater wrong

One of those though she may take them there precisely as they only react like this to cyclist so she knows it is free of cyclists and she is being responsible

Can you just go another way ?

Problem is hers. I've met a lot of dog walkers now in my riding life, most have been friendly and their dogs under control. The key thing I notice is how many know how to deal with passing distractions that they know will cause the dog to chase (bikes, horses, other dogs, etc).

i.e. by calling the dog and facing the it, maybe with a treat on offer, making sure the distraction is to the back of the dog. Almost always works and they don't need to attach a lead. In fact the ones with dogs a bit out of control and they're running after them to try to attach a lead worry me more.

I'm always impressed and thankful to those who do it. I'm not thankful to those who don't know how to keep their dog under control and probably have never done any dog training classes or trained their dog.

Worst one has to be the crazy woman with her utterly out of control dog that was running way off all over the place chasing after everything and then proceeding to jump in front of bikes on a dedicated bike trail. Met her later and warned the dog may get injured and she joked saying it would serve it right and learn not to do it again (huh? !), then we point out the danger to ourselves and she suddenly went into manic fury and ranted about irresponsible mountain bikers, scaring her kids and how they've taken over the countryside like a menace.

Had a slightly different experience. Was taking down some race signs next day in pouring rain had my anaorak hood on when this labrador or something came running toward me barking from abt 10-15 m. I froze in my tracks part fear and part ready to kick the dog when the Owner came running up shouting it's name to stop. She then proceeds to tell me oh he does not like hats or hoods!!!

My dog used to chase everyone on a bicycle. Not been a problem since I took his bike away.

IGMC

Had a similar 'discussion' with a lady on Sunday when her dog chased me. She took the view it was my fault for riding a bike and not stopping and getting off whilst she caught up. Pointed out that if it were children and not me what would she do. Irresponsible. I too was on what I think it a footpath, small off road bit to a road. Shouldn't matter, should be under control and clearly it wasn't. I politely informed her if it bit me I'd called the police and they could deal with her.

Any reason why you can't get off your bike and push along the path? Not excusing the dogs' behaviour - they sound like a liability - but it seems as though you are somewhat contributing to a problem you are already aware of.

The main problem was the woman's attitude which was basically you shouldn't be up here so my dogs can be as aggressive as they want as your the one in the wrong! I am a dog lover too I have two Staffordshire bulls but I can only imagine what would be said if mine were out of control like that! There really is another route up in the winter either.

I was riding along a public highway this afternoon and a dog shot out from a fire road and almost had me off. Horse riding owner was some 100 yards away down the fire road. Sad part is had the dog been a few seconds earlier it'd have been run over by the car that had just passed me.

It's hard, controlling dogs. Not sure some people realise this.

Three fish I did get off my bike straight away but they didn't stop and as she had three dog she could only hold two while the third was circling and barking while I pushed up I was extremely tempted to give it the boot! How does a woman expect to control three dogs on her own? I basically just want to know how much shit is get in for riding where I shouldn't.

New dog laws came in last October , much easier to get a prosecution now .
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/dangerous-dogs-tough-new-law-to-help-prevent-attacks

Woman goes walking her dogs who don't like bikes on a footpath safe in the knowledge there shouldn't be any bikes.

Some prat comes round the corner on his bike, doesn't get off, and dogs run off in to the distance chasing the prat on a bike.

Dogs don't actually bite anyone.

Look at it from her point of view. I think it's you who should be apologising to her. If I ride on a footpath I make every effort to slow, stop and keep out of anyone's way.

The main problem was the woman's attitude which was basically you shouldn't be up here so my dogs can be as aggressive as they want as your the one in the wrong!

EDIT was writing this before your direct response to my post

Can you see her point of view? Understand why she's defensive? Until you get off your bike, you are contributing to the problem. Maybe she'll be more likely to have a conversation with you if you show that you are at least playing by the rules, then you can discuss the potential for disaster if a naive child happens to pedal in front of her dogs. If you just 'attack' her dogs (pack) she's going to side with them, however unreasonably.

I wonder if the dog owner saying things like 'he doesn't like bikes' or ' she doesn't like hats' is often just them explaining why the dog is being a dick, rather than trying to make out it's your fault?

As a dog owner, with a lab who can get a bit growly with younger dogs, I find myself telling other people this - while of course holding on to her as we pass in order to prevent any of her nonsense - just by way of explanation really.

Maybe? EDIT - perhaps not reading posts typed while I was writing.

A woman who used to live here used to get taken for a walk each day by her pack of huge Labradors, led by some sort of genetically modified monster. I bumped into her one day in the forest and she was frantically looking for him. Apparently some idiotic walkers had caused him to get lost because when he ran away from her after them, and followed them trying to get their food, they hadn't bothered to stop and wait at a fork in the path, and the dog had carried on following them. She later got her comeuppance when she ignored this pack hassling a bloke and his kids, who laid into the big dog and swore at her a little bit when she caught up. When she rang the police to get him done she found herself in court, after which she buggered off to England 🙂

She need to control her dogs better.
My Mum and Dads dog does not like some kind of dogs, so we have him trained to come on the lead when another dog is coming toward us.

He's not bothered about bikes. But even so we hold him or put him on a lead, so he does not get in the way and knock them off.

[quote=ads-b ]Woman goes walking her dogs who don't like bikes on a footpath safe in the knowledge there shouldn't be any bikes.
Some prat comes round the corner on his bike, doesn't get off, and dogs run off in to the distance chasing the prat on a bike. +1
[quote=ads-b ]Dogs don't actually bite anyone.Seriously?

I think s/he meant "in this example".

I am a dog owner and he is on a lead most of the time I cannot trust him not to run off if he smells a rabbit or something .
I hate it when another dog runs up to us with the owner saying its alright he is only being friendly He does not know if my dogs is friendly though .

My brother took his dogs walking both on leads when this happened to him and his dogs bit the intruder .
the Owner then had a go at him to which my bro calmly said Oh I am sorry I have insurance for them so get your dog sorted and the insurance should pay up .
this calmed the situation down a bit until my brother said I will have to report that my dogs were on a lead and yours was not so might compromise your claim a tad.

Three fish I did get off my bike straight away but they didn't stop and as she had three dog she could only hold two while the third was circling and barking while I pushed up I was extremely tempted to give it the boot! How does a woman expect to control three dogs on her own? I basically just want to know how much shit is get in for riding where I shouldn't.

You wouldn't get in any shit for riding on the footpath. It's up to the land owner to prosecute you for trespass. It's not a criminal offence, though allowing your dog to bite people is.

Sorry OP. Avoid riding that footpath at the circa times you know she might be there?

Can't be sure? Don't.. Why ask for trouble and obvious confrontation

Every single ride for the past few weeks I have had some horrible little snarling thing snapping at my feet while owner does nothing. Don't know what's got into them at present but I'm really sick of it. And I like dogs (just not aggressive ones).

There are 125 different users on this section of trail on strava plus a few that probably are not so I'd say it's safe to assume she is well aware of mountain bikers, and we're not talking little snappy dogs they could do some serious harm and you can't tell me a 10 stone woman is going to be able to control 2 Alsations! I am pretty sure others must of had similar experiences with this woman and dogs, it only takes one occurrence for something to happen and aggression from dogs towards people should never be ignored even if it's just getting them muzzled.

It's up to the land owner to prosecute you for trespass

There are 125 different users on this section of trail on strava plus a few that probably are not...

So that's 125+ people who disregard the prohibition of bicycles.

The issue of uncontrolled dogs is separate to the issue of people's rights of way. Yes, she should be able to control her dogs; yes, it would be awful if you/a child were bitten - but, just for a moment, consider how you would feel if, say, motorcyclists started regularly using that path. Where would your indignation be if you had to change your ways to suit the helmet-clad monsters, speeding up and down 'your' trail?

You are refusing to acknowledge and do anything about the fact that you should not be there on your bike.
She is refusing to acknowledge and do anything about the fact that she is unable to control her animals and that this presents a danger to other people.
Neither of you are actually discussing the same thing.