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I couldn't resist the lure of a fatty any longer. I recently whittled my mtb collection down to 1 so needed a new winter bike.
Went out to catch the sunrise round the 'puffer this morning. Just beautiful.

Apparently there are people out there who dislike/can't see the point of them. How could you not love a bike that looks like this?

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Posted : 02/12/2012 12:56 pm
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I reckon that if the pioneers of mtb had gone more down the [i]fun[/i] route than [i]race[/i] back in the day then these bike would have evolved sooner. Look so much fun. (and no I don't own one).


 
Posted : 02/12/2012 1:18 pm
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Very nice pics


 
Posted : 02/12/2012 1:22 pm
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Looks great - sold! I see one in my not-too-distant future... 🙂


 
Posted : 02/12/2012 1:34 pm
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And such a fun capable machine to ride!


 
Posted : 02/12/2012 5:09 pm
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is it wise to have a white bike to ride in the snow? 🙂


 
Posted : 02/12/2012 5:43 pm
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Fantastic pics, make me pine for the highlands.


 
Posted : 02/12/2012 5:55 pm
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I'll admit to 2 problems with this sort of bike

One i can't imagine having money for another bike any time soon

Secondly I think I once got a knee problem from some high Q factore cranks. Whick pretty much means they are a non starter for me

But I love the idea. I thought this looked a good variant

http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/gear/category/bikes/mountain/product/review-surly-krampus-13-46694


 
Posted : 02/12/2012 5:56 pm
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That does look like a stunning ride, but I'm not sure trudging round the flatlands of Cambridge would seem worthwhile even with a fatty. Though maybe they would deal with the clay better?


 
Posted : 02/12/2012 6:21 pm
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Would love a fat bike, they do make so much sense. It's just i don't see why people have winter bikes, unless you race. Proper winter is the only time when i can go out and ride my bike and not have to clean afterwards, frozen trails ftw!


 
Posted : 02/12/2012 6:28 pm
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Nice pics, just frost and ice down the south east


 
Posted : 02/12/2012 6:31 pm
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I love the idea of a fat bike but I find pedalling on 2 inch Maxxis Crossmarks hard work. Would I hate fat biking?


 
Posted : 02/12/2012 6:40 pm
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Awesome pics, missed thuis weekends ride, cant wait to find what you have already this winter!


 
Posted : 02/12/2012 6:50 pm
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Just like TB LTc's, Mukluks also rock.

You have great taste in bikes. 😉

They're even more fun on rocks/roots than they are on snow though. 🙂


 
Posted : 02/12/2012 6:54 pm
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[quote=butcher ]I love the idea of a fat bike but I find pedalling on 2 inch Maxxis Crossmarks hard work. Would I hate fat biking?
On the right terrain, a fat tyre is actually [i]less[/i] work than a skinny one.

When it is tougher than your Crossmark you'll only be building up leg strength so when (if) you go back to a skinny bike you'll enjoy that more too.

Double Win!!!


 
Posted : 02/12/2012 7:17 pm
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Cheers druidh i did not need to hear that, i want a fat bike


 
Posted : 02/12/2012 7:35 pm
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On the right terrain, a fat tyre is actually less work than a skinny one.

well obviuosly or there wouldn't be any point


 
Posted : 02/12/2012 8:45 pm
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I'd agree with the comment that the fatty is less work than a skinny in some conditions. Muddy trails where a narrow tyre digs in and is a real chore are floated over with the fat tyre.
Knobbly rocky climbs are easier but smooth uphills are more of a drag. The wall climbing grip from the Nate tyres is almost comical at times, they are also fantastic on off camber slippy grassy stuff and wet roots.

The mukluk geometry is really sorted and is just a really fun trail bike. That's what it was bought for really. Being good in snow is just an added bonus really, I don't expect to do much snow riding tbh.

SSStu those chinese carbon rims you were interested in have arrived. They look good. I'm just waiting on spokes to build them onto mango Kings for the TB 8) I'll let you know how I get on with them.


 
Posted : 02/12/2012 10:39 pm
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Have they solved the mukluk chainrub issues on the 2013 bikes without having to redish or space the cassette out? Looks great by the way. Currently swithering between mukluk and pugsley.....


 
Posted : 04/12/2012 12:31 pm
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Tim at Sideways is now importing the 9:zero:7 frames too.


 
Posted : 04/12/2012 3:24 pm
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No chainrub issues. The crank has a custom spider, maybe that was to solve rubbing?


 
Posted : 04/12/2012 9:14 pm
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Cupra, despite the articles about the risk of chainrub on the 2012 Mukluk I've never experienced any problems....


 
Posted : 04/12/2012 9:24 pm
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Cheers.


 
Posted : 05/12/2012 4:56 pm
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Cupra, despite the articles about the risk of chainrub on the 2012 Mukluk I've never experienced any problems....

Nor have i on my 2011 Mukluk.
Though i only run a single ring up front.

bedmaker.
That'd be great if you let me know how you get on.


 
Posted : 05/12/2012 5:54 pm
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Didn't need far today.
http://instagr.am/p/S3Nn4puCir/


 
Posted : 05/12/2012 5:55 pm
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What's not to like? We have some Carvers on the way too and Sandman have finally been in touch - only taken a year!


 
Posted : 05/12/2012 5:58 pm
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In starting to come round to the looks of them u know.. Doubt I could justify one for the amount of time I'd actually use it tho...


 
Posted : 05/12/2012 6:26 pm
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In starting to come round to the looks of them u know.. Doubt I could justify one for the amount of time I'd actually use it tho...

Once you ride one you'll find it hard to get back on your "normal bike"

Plus you can get one of these on the C2W scheme for about £57 a month
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What's not to like?
I've just ordered one to make it my 2nd Fat Bike and I've got a half fat as well.

Once you ride fat you can't go back 😉


 
Posted : 05/12/2012 7:11 pm
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Absolutely love mine, and even more fun in the snow! 😀

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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/swavis/8235675138/ ]Global Fat Bike Day_057[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/swavis/ ]GavinBelton[/url], on Flickr


 
Posted : 05/12/2012 7:27 pm
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Why are bikes so easy to make collections of?

I've started thinking I 'need' a fat bike, a 29 inch full sus, a modern stiff steel road bike, a 26 inch hard tail, as well as restoring my great uncles steel roadie. Along with having a general locking up outside shops bike too.

Argh.


 
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[quote=JohnClimber ]1981miked - Member
In starting to come round to the looks of them u know.. Doubt I could justify one for the amount of time I'd actually use it tho...

Once you ride one you'll find it hard to get back on your "normal bike"
There is definitely something to that. I've found myself riding the fatbike as default in preference to the CX bike, the Ti hardtail and the SC Blur XCc. I'm not saying it's quicker than any or all of them - but it's tremendous fun.


 
Posted : 05/12/2012 7:56 pm
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Bollocks - finally got the cash together for a mukluk and they are out of stock everywhere, not due back in until end Jan 2013.


 
Posted : 06/12/2012 12:02 pm
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What size do you need?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330836076335?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


 
Posted : 06/12/2012 12:03 pm
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Nice bike bedmaker.

Where did you take the pics? Looks lovely. 😀


 
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Hi John,

Thanks for that..... Now I want one even more.. Just a pity my work doesn't do C2W and I'm saving for a house so no big spends for now... Apart from a road bike I "need" obviously!


 
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druidh - 17" ideally I saw that and I can go and collect it but I fear it will be a bit to too big. I'm 5'11" with a 31 inside leg but quite like my bikes small. I also fancied the tweaked 2013 geometry but beggars and choosers and all that 😉


 
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That does look like a stunning ride, but I'm not sure trudging round the flatlands of Cambridge would seem worthwhile even with a fatty. Though maybe they would deal with the clay better?

I think so - on the last group ride I did my Pugsley was coping better with the clay than the others on their 'skinny' tyred bikes. Kept more grip and floated over rather than sinking in.

Only down side was noone wanted to ride beside me on the really wet parts because of the bow-wave of spray I was putting up


 
Posted : 06/12/2012 12:22 pm
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Cupra, Go and see Tim, and get a nice 9:Zero:7...

Go on..

You [i]know[/i] you want too...


 
Posted : 06/12/2012 12:43 pm
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D'oh. 😳


 
Posted : 06/12/2012 12:44 pm
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Tim is miles away and 9:Zero:7 is probably way beyond budget 🙁 nice thought though.


 
Posted : 06/12/2012 12:58 pm
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Who needs a fat bike. Thin is the new fat.


 
Posted : 06/12/2012 1:25 pm
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Who needs a fat bike. Thin is the new fat.
Wrong phat i'n'it


 
Posted : 06/12/2012 1:34 pm
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I used to do my commute with a derailleur bike but it always got totally gummed up in the snow.

I reckon a alfine fat bike would be best.


 
Posted : 06/12/2012 2:12 pm
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I used to do my commute with a derailleur bike but it always got totally gummed up in the snow.

I reckon a alfine fat bike would be best.

druidh to the forum please


 
Posted : 06/12/2012 2:19 pm
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cupra - Member
Tim is miles away and 9:Zero:7 is probably way beyond budget nice thought though.

Can't help with the distance, but can put one together for around £1600ish


 
Posted : 06/12/2012 2:47 pm
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Ahh, less than I thought, tell me more. Email addy in profile.

EDIT - I've emailed you.


 
Posted : 06/12/2012 3:35 pm
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Hmmm, I must be more methodical in future, it's more like £1800 now I've written it all down 🙁


 
Posted : 06/12/2012 5:38 pm
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Double post


 
Posted : 06/12/2012 6:14 pm
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Sanny - pics are taken at the top of the 'puffer course. 1st one looking across to ben Wyvis, 2nd one at the swivelly seat and 3rd shortly after the bridge of thighs.

It's going with me to Aviemore tomorrow for a long weekend of frolics. Looking a the forecast though the ice spikers on the susser may be a bertter bet..

I'd agree with others, it rides surprisingly 'just like a bike'. The only fatty I'd ridden previously was a pugsley with Endomongs on and it was pretty horrid really. Fine on sand I'm sure but I rode it on singletrack and it was all over the place. The Nates are totally different though. In mud, they are faster in a straight line as they float rather than dig in but hard cornering is a bit sketchy as they lack of digging in means they skitter around a bit.

I'm glad I went for it as I had a feeling they may sell out then I'd regret not buying. Fat stuff in general seems to go quickly once available.


 
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[quote=bedmaker ]
It's going with me to Aviemore tomorrow for a long weekend of frolics.
I'll look out for Nate tracks


 
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[quote=GEDA ]I used to do my commute with a derailleur bike but it always got totally gummed up in the snow.
I reckon a alfine fat bike would be best.
I reckoned that too and, TBF, there are quite a few in that mode. However, I found that it really needed to be geared right down to take advantage of the amazing traction and I'd have to drop below Shimanos recommended gearing ratios. I also had a wee problemette regarding the EBB I'd opted for that meant I couldn't fit a really small cog at the front. Overall, I opted just to go 2x9 with a short-cage shadow mech. I still have the Alfine wheel built up (on drilled Rolling Darryls) and might try it out again.


 
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/11871535@N02/8247282589/ ]RaiseSkierFatty[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/11871535@N02/ ]Ed Oxley[/url], on Flickr

Yesterday up on Raise I went for a ride and met some people on skis 🙂


 
Posted : 06/12/2012 8:21 pm
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Ed - What crank is on that bike and what size are the chainrings?

I've got a Fatty on order, but I'm pretty sure that I'll need to go 2x on it. I'm looking at the Race Face cranks, hoping that 24-36-bash will fit.

Any insight would be appreciated.


 
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It's a Hussefelt crank. 22/32/bash. I believe it was modified by the guys in the On One workshop in Rotherham. What they did I don't know I'm afraid. It does work and I use the granny a lot.


 
Posted : 07/12/2012 10:58 am
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Thanks, Ed.

There are a lot of hills where I live, and I assume that I'll need something lower than the 32F 36R combo that the stock Fatty will give me. I was hoping to go 24-26-bash as that combo seems to be becoming the standard for 2x10.

Unfortunately, that doesn't help me figure out whether the Race Face 24-26-bash will fit since the chainline could be a few mm different between cranksets.

I guess that I'll just have to wait till my Fatty gets here!


 
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The Raceface cranks use shims on the axle to adjust chainline. That [i]might[/i] give you a couple mm more to play with.


 
Posted : 07/12/2012 9:40 pm
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Ed - I like your video, too.


 
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Cheers JoeG


 
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Doh! Was just about in a position to, finally, push the button on a 29er.......now this! Shame on you all! (Particularly the chap pushing the 9:Zero:7!).
Quite like the look of this -
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I love mine.. They're even more fun in the sun and sand when you're not freezing your arse off.. 🙂

DJ


 
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Been commuting into work a few days a week on the pug instead of using the Dirty bike so i can get in some detour home off roading after work at sunset/lights on after dark, and have to say what a great way to unwind from the day...
(er.. sitting in front of the heater drinking tea) 🙂


 
Posted : 20/12/2012 7:26 am
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Great pictures.

My demo pugsley, the delivery was delayed due to snow, the snow thawed, the bike arrived, and I have not seen snow since. Grrrrr

Nice mukluk there.

Of the seven bikes I am building this week, six are fat, one is a 29er... If you take this ratio and project if forward, it means that 26" bikes will be extinct, 29ers will be niche again, and fat will be normal.


 
Posted : 20/12/2012 7:55 am

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