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Mines part paid for finally and the "normal" wheels are being built (Pauls front hub)
If I wanted to try a silly FAT front wheel could I use a rear disc hub and space the disc out or do I have to buy another (almost) unique hub?
I can't remember if the disc on a read hub is further away from the frame than on the front of closer (did that make sense?)
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Posted : 02/11/2012 11:11 am
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The Jones is front disc spacing on a 135mm width, so you can't use a rear hub unf unless you space out the disc mount by about 5mm - which knowing how hard you can brake on that fork, I wouldn't want to risk. It may be ok if you get some spacers that support the disc mount well tho and I expect it's been tried?


 
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erm...rear hubs are 135mm?


 
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erm...rear hubs are 135mm?

Yes but the disc mount on the Jones front fork isnt in the same place, like everything else on that bike its 'special' for the sake of it. Hence you'd need a front 135mm hub, tho id be tempted to try a rear with either rotor shims or, even easier, shimming the caliper when you swap wheels.

Of course if you had thought ahead youd have laughed at the idea of a front specific hub and just went with a rear hub in all your front wheels, but then Jones owners seem to fall under a spell when talking/looking at their bikes.


 
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Blimey, what a pile of crock!


 
Posted : 02/11/2012 12:22 pm
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al - yes but the disc mount front and rear are different traditionally (hence the different mounts) whereas on the Surlys they made the front 135mm spacing rear disc facing so the wheels can be swapped around if you care to do that sort of thing.
Jones are 135mm front facing.
It's mad but thats the reason I wanted to know.

James - thanks, that's what I thought. It'll be a bloody expensive test then :O(

Tim


 
Posted : 02/11/2012 12:24 pm
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Our fatbike hub would fit.

I should get some of them for aftermarketsale.


 
Posted : 02/11/2012 12:27 pm
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and you call me a tart for wanting to spend more than £80 on a pair of wheels, tim!

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Stato - now now dear boy. It's there for a reason like everything else on a Jones bike. Jeff will explain.

James - I thought a front disc was closer to the fork than a rear one to the frame by 3-4mm? If I get a few mm of disc spacers from Velosolo would that work? I appreciate the tollerances but I can't imagine going dangerously fast on a clown tyre


 
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Luke - opps, guilt :O) But you are building up a bike that will likely break so no point making it pimpy. I'm building my (almost) dream bike.

Brant - could be an answer. Are they affordably priced like everything else at On-One? Would they fit without a bodge?
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[i]you are building up a bike that will likely break[/i]

I know it's possible, but for £190 (including repair costs) I thought it wasa worth it to get a Lynskey frame for my first shot at 29er riding. Can always transfer the rest on if necessary.


 
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Our fatbike hub would fit.

I should get some of them for aftermarketsale.

Yes please!


 
Posted : 02/11/2012 12:34 pm
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I knew this would end up in a 'standards / proprietary parts Jones slating' )

Of course if you had thought ahead youd have laughed at the idea of a front specific hub
Or if you've ridden the bike enough to appreciate what it does and why, you might realise why it is that way and see a benefit.

edit to add - Brant, if your hubs are 135 front standard, get some in, I'd buy the whole wheel.


 
Posted : 02/11/2012 12:38 pm
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james - I rode the bike and loved it. Swallowing the headset/hub hassle. It'll be worth it to ME. I'm not buying it for anyone else.


 
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Tim, likewise here. It is worth it long term. The accusation is that if you spend that much you won't admit it being less than amazing, but I liked mine enough to buy a second one.. obviously it's a strong spell.

I thought a front disc was closer to the fork than a rear one to the frame by 3-4mm?
it is, sorry yes space the disc not the mount. Just under 5mm difference in axle end to disc mount so the disc would need to move out almost 5mm, maybe a bit less with caliper position. I'm still not convinced that's a good idea but I've ridden more 'bodged' stuff than that..


 
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It's been a want for a long time and it's going to be a keeper so worth the wait for ME.
It's bloody good but it's got to have gears as it's not as good SS as my Trek 69er SS. That bike is crazyily good without gears IMHO and there's only room for one SS MTB in my life.


 
Posted : 02/11/2012 12:52 pm
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I'm going to order some forks (470mm), front wheels, hubs on their own, some rims...

Then we can do a fat front package.


 
Posted : 02/11/2012 4:35 pm
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I used a rear hub in the front of my Jones for a while.
Just turned the axle down from 10mm to 9mm on the ends to get it to fit.
There was enough adjustment on the brake caliper to line it up with the rotor.


 
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I'm going to order some forks (470mm), front wheels, hubs on their own, some rims...

Then we can do a fat front package.

Guesstimate for when they'll be in?


 
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I'm going to order some forks (470mm), front wheels, hubs on their own, some rims...

Then we can do a fat front package.

So you're suggestion Timbur buy a really nice Jones bike that rides really well then **** it right up with crap from On One? mmmmmmmmmmmmm


 
Posted : 02/11/2012 4:55 pm
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[i]So you're suggestion Timbur buy a really nice Jones bike that rides really well then **** it right up with crap from On One? mmmmmmmmmmmmm [/i]

*not sure if serious*

initially he suggested an on-one front hub to tim to sort out spacing issues, the rest is an after thought for those who might be fat front curious?


 
Posted : 02/11/2012 4:57 pm
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if you've got an IS mount front brake you just shin that slightly to play with non jones or pauls components whubs. Alternatively you can get offset disc mounts and rotor shims for just this purpose from

http://fatbikes.com/rotor-spacers.html


 
Posted : 02/11/2012 5:46 pm
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Tazzy - you star.

Gotama - choice words young man. I've had a few On-One frames in my time and they have all been excellent value for money and ridden far better than a lot of far more expensive bikes. A Jones is only a bike at the end of the day and the choice of kit I will be hanging off it reflect my choices, not what is deemed by "the few" to be acceptable.

Brant - a front wheel package might well be of interest.


 
Posted : 02/11/2012 5:58 pm
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^ useful... so you can space either the disc or the mount, makes sense. I was looking at a spare rear SS hub I have earlier and realised the axle needs adjusting as stu said.


 
Posted : 02/11/2012 5:59 pm
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Eh? Wasn't me that was slating on one, i like their stuff and fancy their fat front, it was ssjeff. I'm going to 😥 in a cupboard now.


 
Posted : 02/11/2012 7:03 pm
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Tim - get a fat front - you won't regret it !! I've had mine for three years and use the fat front 95% of the time. Get at least a 65 mm or 72mm rim to get the benefit of running a BFL for truly awesome traction and cush.


 
Posted : 02/11/2012 8:12 pm
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Sorry Gotama - came down with the lurgy yesterday nad things werent been seen straight.
come out of the cupboard dear boy :O)


 
Posted : 03/11/2012 4:51 pm

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