[Closed] is there a bike brand that no-one hates?

loddrik - Member
Absolutely love my brompton. It's all I ride nowadays. And I'm not a commuter, I just love riding it.

Are you a pretentious cock? mikewsmith doesn't like you. 😀

Tomac? Intense?

Quite like Surly but theres something erksome about there efforts to be cool Salsa probably less so but tainted by association.

Trek and especially Giant are dull, glad Im not the only one who thinks so.

I actually like Specialized becase they have consistantly the best bikes (IMO before you get on the keyboard) and Kona because I thnk their bikes tend to actually BE cool even when there not fashionable.

The only ones universally liked are probably the brands few people have experience of.

[img] [/img]

Are you a pretentious cock? mikewsmith doesn't like you.

Liteville and Nicolai are good shouts. Mainly I guess because they are solidly engineered and have enough options to make it the customers fault if they don't like the bike 😀

For me, Knolly and Canfield are worthy of a mention on the MTB side.

Brands like Lightweight or Argon 18 on the road side of things

For custom then someone like English Cycles seem to get nothing but love

Don't see much mention of brands like Ridley in here.

They went through (or might still be in) a pretty snaptastic phase

how about Scott you seldom read any significant digs at them or their kit, I quite like some of their clothing too, they're basically inoffensive

The Scale and Spark are generally well received but any trail/ enduro/ gravity bike reviewed by a trail/ enduro/ gravity mag gets absolutely slated every time without fail!

DanW - Member

Spark are generally well received but any trail/ enduro/ gravity bike reviewed by a trail/ enduro/ gravity mag gets absolutely slated every time without fail!

Dirt wet themselves over the new Gambler and the Voltage's been well loved.

Maybe the very latest Gambler since Bredan made them cool 😕 But the Voltages/ Genius's and so on always got slated. Gambler was always largely ignored but seems to have gained a good following

Is it too late to suggest Enve wheels 😆

crashtestmonkey - Member

Trek? Hard to have any strong emotions about Trek.

I'll never own any Trek product after they sacrificed Greg Lemond on the alter of Lance's ego. Lost his career, his livelihood, adversely affected his health and its taken 15 years for the cycling world to welcome him back as the legend he is.

+1.

And I'm a little puzzled about why they still sell a bike named Madone. Named after a climb only made famous by Armstrong testing how effective his doping regime was. If they had a sense of humour they'd sell an EPO version.

Trek also for the takeovers of Klein, Bontrager and Gary Fisher and subsequent eradiction and everything else stated above.

DanW - Member

But the Voltages/ Genius's and so on always got slated

Voltage was a Dirt 100 at least once.

And I'm a little puzzled about why they still sell a bike named Madone.

Also Domane and Emonda...

I'd never buy a Specialized bike- I dislike the brand/they strike me as purely big business and their customer service sucks.

Well they replaced my damaged frame - unlike Trek....

YoKaiser - Member

Trek also for the takeovers of Klein, Bontrager and Gary Fisher and subsequent eradiction and everything else stated above.

Bontrager as a brand that no-one hates. (Albeit extinct? 😳 )

I'd love a modern Bontrager.

Rose and Kinesis owner here. You don't hear much of Rose in the UK but Fin (Rose UK) has always been great. Kinesis make lovely bikes.

Chumba bikes got some bad press before they folded.

After the Dave Hinde debacle cyclists in the know always raise an eyebrow whenever the name is mentioned.

stanfree - Member
Giant surely ? , I've never heard anyone bad mouth them.

I think they succesfully reversed that with their epic 650b shark jump tbh.

Sorry if I'm being a bit slow (wouldn't be the first time), but can someone explain the shark jump thing?

Jones

Black sheep

Enigma

Salsa

Surly- some main brand fanbois don't like the humour, but then they also get all uptight over Cove bike names as well, so their opinion doesn't count 🙂

fat chance
[img] [/img]

Hold on, hold on... Somebody hates Yeti? Why?

Somebody hates Yeti? Why?

Their after sales service is pretty poor. Like abominably slow, man.

Hold on, hold on... Somebody hates Yeti? Why?

Any bike that has 'fan' meets or owners groups will have haters.

I dont have a bad word for Muddy Foxes or Dekerfs

@ Jamie

Boom boom!

nj5pro - Member

The one and only original Muddy Fox..

Legoman - Member

stanfree - Member
Giant surely ? , I've never heard anyone bad mouth them.

I think they succesfully reversed that with their epic 650b shark jump tbh.

Sorry if I'm being a bit slow (wouldn't be the first time), but can someone explain the shark jump thing?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark

Hth.

Dekerf, now that's a good one. Can't be many that hate them, they're lovely bikes. Fat Chance the same but long since gone.

Muddy Fox? I hate how the famous name has been destroyed by years of BSO's.

BTR Fabrications everyone luvs em ...............no one hates their bikes

Islabikes?

Overpriced bikes with smaller plastic levers for kids hands? THEY ALL HAVE THEM. Lets face it. The bland styling appeals to wannabe middle class types.

Jamis?

First mention for Cannondale, for thinking outside the box in the search for better solutions. Hate Dorel for taking production out the USA, but keeping prices high. Also hate seeing Mongoose and Gt devalued by bso's bearing the badge in halfords.

knolly , banshee , yeti , devinci ?

ryan91 - Member

Also hate seeing Mongoose and Gt devalued by bso's bearing the badge in halfords.

Which never actually happened?

IF
Kinesis
Salsa
Voodoo

Overpriced bikes with smaller plastic levers for kids hands? THEY ALL HAVE THEM. Lets face it. The bland styling appeals to wannabe middle class types.

Is this a cryptic crossword clue?

Yuba?

Talking about Raleigh - I love me some old ones, kind of stately, well made, never exotic, RSP especially good - but then Notts went titsup - I stupidly bought an X1 for commutes, it was a dead log - literally hated it- so wrote them off. So have been a fan and a hater twrds same brand. Anyhow - yesterday I was shown their 2014 reincarnation 'Wayfarer' - a 6061 cruisery 3 speed - looks nice! Lightish, flat blade mudguards, unfussy, and I got a bit excited again. But it should be steel really, shouldn't it?

What about Brooklyn Machine Works. No one actually owns one

The one the guy in front is riding?

Overpriced bikes with smaller plastic levers for kids hands? THEY ALL HAVE THEM

Lefty loving the Cannondales.

Giant for pinching the DW link, although I think they will have to pay now DW have started legal action,

My Kinesis maxlight was an awesome frame! I ran it with a Pace RC39 and it was just over 10kg and took a fair amount of abuse.

Oh, as we're talking bike brands, does that include component manufacturers too?? If so, HOPE!

BTR Fabrications everyone luvs em ...............no one [s]hates[/s] can afford their bikes

YT Industries. Well priced, well built, good spec, quirky, fun.

grenosteve - Member
Oh, as we're talking bike brands, does that include component manufacturers too?? If so, HOPE!

What's that annoying buzzing? Bloody Hope hubs 😈

😉

Moots? OK they are not the most exciting bikes out there but they look lovely and the only negatives you ever hear are the price.

What's that annoying buzzing?

It's a design feature, my dog knows to speed up when she hears the racket, it properly confuses her if I use Shimano hubs.

Surly
Cotic
Singular
Charge
Salsa
Jones

All generally appreciated in my experience. Small companies doing what they do well with little fuss. What's not to like.

Anyone mentioned Ibis? The only reason I hate them is because I will likely never be able to afford one.

Giant for pinching the DW link, although I think they will have to pay now DW have started legal action,

(I don't hate DW at all btw. But I do dislike how suspension engineering can involve reading patents more than actually designing a bike. But you play with the rules you're given, so be it.)

Tazzy - Jones? haha. The same Jones-haters pop up on 90% of Jones threads on here. So there's at least 3 or 4 who don't like them.

I'll second the likes of Banshee and Knolly.

I think in reality most brands will have their detractors - Banshee certainly used to with their use of bushes that killed frames.

I like Spesh - their attitude stinks at times but they make some cracking bikes and are often market leaders (e.g. the 05 Enduro). Their love of silly shock mounts / sizes does suck though.

This thread has made me realise that there are few brands that I feel strongly anti but plenty of others that are just 'meh' (Scott, Giant, Marin, Whyte, Merida etc).

Canfield, Cotic, Kinesis, Kona, Singular, Dialled, Salsa.

I've owned all of the above (except for Kinesis), while the bike's not always turned out to be what I was looking for (one's gotta try!) they're BS free, make the best product they can, and look after their customers. Would buy again, probably will!

Spooky?
I know they don't exist anymore but everyone loved them didn't they?

Does anybody hate Canyon for any other reason than they make all other bikes seem too expensive with their epic specs?

burnside81 - Member

Does anybody hate Canyon for any other reason than they make all other bikes seem too expensive with their epic specs?

I genuinely think they are fantastic because at some point people might realise that the big bike manufacturers are taking the mick with their pricing. Some of their bikes are nice as well.

jameso - Member

Or, DW for getting US patents on previously-used stuff that doesn't stand up to 'patentable' scrutiny anywhere but in the US..

DOn't entirely disagree with you - but DW worked with Giant for ages on developing a suspension system, then they severed ties with him, and released Maestro. HMMMM.

Salsa must be the winner? (I only read page 1 and 4)

jameso - Member

Tazzy - Jones? haha. The same Jones-haters pop up on 90% of Jones threads on here. So there's at least 3 or 4 who don't like them.

I don't think anyone hates Jones. But I could happily murder most Jones owners 🙂

Hard to hate Ragley I'd have thought?

Surly
Cotic
Singular
Charge
Salsa
Jones

Apart from singular those brands are all a bit meh, I'll add ribble, planet-x, on-one and canyon to that list of dull bikes and their equally dull evangelists/fanboys

Black sheep

Curtis, DMR, Ragley etc - All seem like decent brands with a pretty loyal following, mainly due to their products simplicity and bombproof nature. On the other side you have Intense / Yeti / Santa Cruz side of the coin - whilst being "cool" and handmade, these give you the utter ball ache of buying spares from distributors who couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

Hard to hate Ragley I'd have thought?

Not for my mate who waited over a year for a replacement frame that was also stuffed when it finally turned up.