[Closed] Is the new classifieds forum hardly used or am I only seeing some of the posts?

It's a feature. You can pay money and your ad floats to the top. So all the old adverts that people pay for get stuck up there, kind of like the dead stuff that floats at the top of a stagnant pond.

Scroll down further and you see the newer stuff.

It's a feature.

I don't view it as a P user I still see adverts on that classified. section.

I guess that's another feature

Never bother looking at the new classifieds as im just so use to the old classifieds...just so use to having the classifieds as part of the forum sections and i can skim the original classifieds far faster than the new one with pics

I really don't like it at all.....I might just be a laggard but I really liked the old section.....

Ok guys, thanks for info, guess I'll have to get used to it.lol

I didn't even realise it was there, despite reading a couple of tongue in cheek comments about how great the new classifieds are!

Ads only last 10 days on the new classifieds.

The old one needs turning off. Many are not using the new one because the old one is still there!

Many still look at the old one because it’s better!

I often skim the old section, rarely the new one. I don't know why but going through the new one seems a bit of a chore

I don't think that it's helped by the fact that there's no link to it in the Forum menu or header and you have to access it via the link in the announcement thread (unless you've got it saved as a favourite).

Don’t like new either but wish they’d settle on one or other, having both makes no sense. And if it’s the new one get it to link from forum headers etc like the current one.

Old one is much better - I rarely look at the new one, it just seems cluttered & non chronological.

I don’t think that it’s helped by the fact that there’s no link to it in the Forum menu or header and you have to access it via the link in the announcement thread (unless you’ve got it saved as a favourite).

It's in the main header. Well it is on my desktop Chrome, anyway. Pretty sure it's in the main hamburger menu on mobile.

Old one is much better – I rarely look at the new one, it just seems cluttered & non chronological.

This exactly!

Yeah, I'm just too used to clicking "For Sale" on the list of forums for a quick flick through after I've wasted enough time on the main forums but can't quite bring myself to do some actual work yet. I'll occasionally remember and have a look at the new one, but it doesn't seem to get used much.

If the old classifieds was taken off, I'd probably use the new one more, but I'm not sure whether that would be a good thing or not. Makes no sense having both though.

The old one needs turning off. Many are not using the new one because the old one is still there!

The new one is worse than the old one in terms of functionality, IMO. It takes me seconds to skim through a couple of pages of titles on the old one. If they turn off the old one, I won't be visiting the new version with anything like the same frequency.

The first pageful seems to be never-changing on the new one, didn't realise there was a payment option. I don't need to see a thumbnail of a chainring, and I imagine that most sellers find it a pain to supply one for everything.

It's buried under 3 layers of menus on mobile which doesn't help.

New sales site sucks.

Not really doing it for me either.

Good idea and better functionality in a lot of ways but doesn't yet have the depth of content to make the functionality worthwhile, if that makes sense.

If they turned the old ones off I'd probably not bother with the new TBH.

DOn't use the new one... ever.

If they turned the old ones off I’d probably not bother with the new TBH.

That.

I tried to have a look at it, and gave up.

The whole point of the singletrack classifieds for me is looking for things that I don't need to buy. I'm interested in what people are selling, how much they're asking for it and the like.  It's a browsing experience for me, and every now and then i see something that I've just got to have.

The new site doesn't provide a browsing experience that I enjoy, being able to filter and search (can you do that?!) are of no value

New Classifieds page doesnt really work for me.

The Boosted ads are a distraction. On my PC there are 20 Boosted Ads on there at the moment. All but 3 are over a week old. The oldest is 2 months old. Its tedious having to scroll through all of them to see the current stuff. The boosted ads are then repeated on the rh side of my PC screen for some reason. I'm not really even sure what a "Boosted" ad is? Apologies if I haven't noticed where the explanation is.

Each Ad also takes up a lot of screen space which means I have to scroll down a lot to see whats for sale. What I like about the old page is the ability to scroll quickly through a couple of pages. On my phone its worse as each ad takes up half a page.

Its confusing having 2 Classifieds pages, but I would prefer the old one wasn't switched off because of the reasons above.

Overall the classifieds seem a lot quieter these days. I have just had a massive clearout of tons of spares (about 200 parts) I have accumulated over the last 10 years. I used Ebay for this as it just seems easier to use and the recent spate of continuous Final Value Fee Promotions every weekend makes it much more viable.

That's an excellent point, I do that too!

STW are at risk of losing their own USP in a bid to be more like PB perheps?

I had no idea there was a new classified page until this thread, even then I had to go looking for it!

It's balls. I thought I wasn't using it properly as I always saw the same five old posts on the top, but as others have stated, that's a 'feature'.

Counter to one commentator above, the Pinkbike classifieds are perfectly decent (critically they are dead easy to sort chronologically, and that meme on here about getting offered swapsies for an XBox 1 is pretty tired) - the STW one is using the same architecture as Road.CC, and their classifieds are **** too.

I had no idea there was a new classified page until this thread, even then I had to go looking for it!

Really? If you go to the drop down 'Channels' in the top menu, then it's listed there, just above the 'Canyon" channel.

Anyone know why there's a 'Canyon' channel?

There's also a stickie in the old classifieds informing of the new classifieds, largely full of comments about how much of an improvement the new classifieds are. And a request from somebody to turn the old classifieds off because nobody is using the new classifieds because the old classifieds are still doing the job quite well, thank you very much.

Agreed, PB classifieds are fine, but the new ones here are awful. I much prefer the old ones, as they are so much easier to browse.

Anyone know why there’s a ‘Canyon’ channel?

Sponsored content, I imagine. I hadn't noticed it before, TBH.

Get rid of the boosted ads. They’re the biggest issue as it makes it hard to browse the new stuff.

Really? If you go to the drop down ‘Channels’ in the top menu, then it’s listed there, just above the ‘Canyon” channel.

I've never looked at the channels drop down either! But then I've never bought anything on the classifieds, and only sold a handful of things, so I don't go looking for it. When I saw 'new classifieds' I presumed it had replaced the old one, so went to the forum dropdown, but obviously that's not where it is. It does have its own tab. I don't like it, but then I'm not using it, so meh.

I created an ad to sell my van, it was £10? for me to list it for a limited duration. I wanted to think whether this is VFM.

I now have an advert in limbo - I cannot pay to activate it, it's just 'inactive pending payment'

Not a fan of the new classifieds tbh

As a P, it would be nice to get a free advert or two a year.

I created an ad to sell my van, it was £10? for me to list it for a limited duration. I wanted to think whether this is VFM.

Well I don't want to piss on their chips, but you can post for free in the old classifieds and it's probably getting more eyeballs.

The special irony is that the ads plaguing the top of the new area for longest are those that are overpriced and hence not selling quickly.

I can see the purpose from STWs viewpoint though - it's another income stream.

I preferred the old browse and have a nose format of the old one too. I hate change, me.

Seriously though, when I'm gonna sell something I upload pics straight from my phone to postimg.org. Then if I want to sell it on the new classifieds I have to upload them again to the forum. Bit nuts that. Ah well, it's free (unless you wanna join the clutter, I mean boost).

I also didn't realise the top ads in the new classifieds were boosted/paid ads either and just thought it wasn't very well used.

Can't really be arsed having to search for stuff, i usually just browse the old for sale and wanted forums to see if something takes my fancy or if I have something someone needs.

I like the fact you have to put photos in ads but it would be better if clicking on the front page pic actually took you to the ad as well.

I liked it initially then fell foul of the ridiculous  rules As to number of ads (despite paying for my ‘P’) then get bored scrolling through loads of overpriced bikes in the ‘paid’ ads.  I have given up.  Much prefer the old classified forum.  It just works.  Leave the other style for pinkbike I say

That’s an excellent point, I do that too!

STW are at risk of losing their own USP in a bid to be more like PB perheps?

Except Pinkbike is much better

Hate it.

Don't want to keep scrolling past that picture of a flippin Spectral or the overpriced T5 conversion, don't like the ads and just generally don't like the way it looks or to be honest the stuff on it - seems to attract different sellers

Much prefer the old site - seems more trustworthy and more immediate, like a notice board

Oh and whilst we are at it the "BROWSE REVIEWS" shortcuts seem to be corrupting the search function - cant see anywhere else to provide this feedback....

Interesting. I just went over to have a nosey and found the Mojo that's been there for a couple of months already.  The owner appears never to have posted on the forum. At over £4k I'd be looking for some sort of history.

New one sucks

The owner appears never to have posted on the forum. At over £4k I’d be looking for some sort of history.

Didnt thay bike bike start out at £5500! Wonder why it remained unsold for a couple of months even now it look bloody expensive to me!

I quite like it. I like the fact that it's broken down into categories, so I can find parts I want, and I much prefer the way that everything has a consistent picture.

But, I think that the ads disappearing so quickly is awful, it feels half empty most of the time, and gone are the days of an occasional payday browse, you need to keep a very close eye on it.

I'm also not entirely sold on the every listing having a photo, yes I know one man's "great condition" can be another's "fit for the bin", but I know what an XT brake disc looks like - it looks like every other XT brake disc!

But yes, a "latest" without the same boosted ads being at the top for months on end would be a great improvement.

Also, clicking on the photos really, really should link through to the ad. Gets me every time...

Its not that user friendly for sure.

I thought it looked decent initially, but boosted ads completely break it from a browsing POV.

Maybe change the boost functionality so it works more like PB repost?

It's shite.  It's almost as if it serves no financial purpose for STW, so they hope if the new interface is bad enough, everyone will stop using it, and they will no longer need to support it....

I never use the new one. Not a fan of the categories and the fact that is not taken off so does not have much on.

I open the old one every other day and skim down the list quickly.

And I can spot something I'm after pretty quick from the descriptions, takes 1min max,.

I do not see what the new one adds and I like the text based simplicity of the old one.

I have to say, since the forum update stopped you being able to search the For Sale/Wanted forums properly, I pretty much don't use either the old or new Classifieds here now.  The Pinkbike BuySell is an exemplary example of exactly how it should be done...  "Ooooh, I wonder what 650B Enduro bikes in Large are out there under a grand with "160mm" and "Lyriks" as keywords" - there you go, a 2017 Commencal Meta AM V3 in orange in Stroud.

I've just seen the post in the FS forum that both the FS and wanted sections will be closing shortly.  Thats one more nail in the coffin for this forum

I'm sure it's only coincidental that the closure of the current forums was announced after this thread popped up.

I’m sure it’s only coincidental that the closure of the current forums was announced after this thread popped up.

Lolz....

idiotdogbrain - yeah PB is great but partly because it has the biggest MTB userbase outside of ebay

both the FS and wanted sections will be closing shortly. Thats one more nail in the coffin for this forum

Shame about that, you'd hope they might read this thread and take note of some of the great feedback included.

New products don't always work out as hoped and it's not always wise to double-down if they don't get off to a good start.

Shame about that, you’d hope they might read this thread and take note of some of the great feedback included.

Are you new here?

(TBF, we don't know they haven't)

Are you new here?

I'm just being diplomatic, having worked in digital media for almost 20 years I know I'd have killed for this kind of considered feedback from invested users on some products I've managed.

I also know I made a few mistakes by sticking with "plan A" when there were clear signs it wasn't gonna fly, just because I wanted it to or didn't have the experience to spot the issues.

Anyway, enough rambling. Let's see shall we.

I’ve commented on the sticky thread, counting down to when I get told off or banned or something. 😂

No use, they've obviously made their minds up 🙁

FFS this site is disappearing up its own arse. It appears the majority don't like it but we'll close the more popular one instead.

Is maybot in charge of things there! 🤡

pondering if it's worth renewing my P now

I’m sure it’s only coincidental that the closure of the current forums was announced after this thread popped up.

Maybe it prompted them but it has always been the plan.

https://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/new-weve-launched-a-bespoke-classifieds-system/

I’ve commented on the sticky thread, counting down to when I get told off or banned or something. 😂

Well I just resubsscibed as part of a birthday present.  In fact I got a free gift yesterday I wasn’t expecting.  Some weird arse cream? Not sure what I’m going to do with it to be honest probably give it to a roadie friend.  But one thing is for sure if the classified/wanted forums go it will be the last renewal unless something miraculous happens to the new shit system!

how much for the arse cream?

I will list it for sale on pinkbike or eBay. 😉 I can’t be arsed using the new system.

Bizarrely it would appear the overpriced Ibis Mojo has been removed....someone obviously cleaning up the classifieds a bit

I will list it for sale on pinkbike or eBay. 😉 I can’t be arsed using the new system.

This 🙁

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I will list it for sale on pinkbike or eBay. 😉 I can’t be arsed using the new system.

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I will list it for sale on pinkbike or eBay. 😉 I can’t be arsed using the new system.

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The sad irony of your last post Brunneep filled with forum edit and posting software faults!  <div> or should that be <divvy>

You missed my point Bruneep.

nah don't think.i did.  stw towers seem to miss everyones point but it's their site to implode as they see fit.

I could've quoted you again, to show the failings of the forum bit we all know what they are but nothing ever gets done. apart from giving us some thing no one wants.

hey ho

nah don’t think.i did. stw towers seem to miss everyones point but it’s their site to implode as they see fit.

I could’ve quoted you again, to show the failings of the forum bit we all know what they are but nothing ever gets done. apart from giving us some thing no one wants.

hey ho

Straight copy and paste of the text only then highlight and quote from the buttons above.  2 steps rather than the simply "reply with quote that you usually do on forums and  no way of saying who the quote is from as far as I can see without manually typing in the [ quote = "bruneep" ] etc

Will it be full of extraneous stuff?

No its not but its still a long way for a shortcut

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nah don’t think.i did.  stw towers seem to miss everyones point but it’s their site to implode as they see fit.

I could’ve quoted you again, to show the failings of the forum bit we all know what they are but nothing ever gets done. apart from giving us some thing no one wants.

Exactly you did miss my point as my reply did just that hence the embarrassed emoji. Still at least you got to post a gif.

Maybe I should set up a classifieds on my temp forum what i created 😁

Now what was the address again...

It was all nice and civil 'til the mod turned up, eh?

Just here tojump on the old ones good. New ones bad train.

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nah don’t think.i did.  stw towers seem to miss everyones point but it’s their site to implode as they see fit.

I could’ve quoted you again, to show the failings of the forum bit we all know what they are but nothing ever gets done. apart from giving us some thing no one wants.

Exactly you did miss my point as my reply did just that hence the embarrassed emoji. Still at least you got to post a gif.

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No I didn't, but you obviously know my thoughts so what the point in me explaining to you ....and do you know how hard it is to post an image/gif from a mobile. Another issue that's never been fixed

About time it's changing over TBH. I'm one of the people for them, as soon as it's populated better and people get over actually being able to fins a specific item instead of browsing endless pages of cryptic subject lines I'm sure nobody will be bothered. Except the people who moan for moanings sake of course.

do you know how hard it is to post an image/gif from a mobile

Copy link, paste. Done.

No I didn’t, but you obviously know my thoughts so what the point in me explaining to you

Ah so you knew after all that I agree some areas are still broke and it’s embarrassing. Not sure the monkey Gif made that clear though.