[Closed] Is STW a mountain bike site?

C'mon Benji - I thought the rules allowed only one logon id?

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I do like hearing non P members who dont pay to help keep the website going tell us what it should be like.

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Did your mum not pack your favourite yogurt today?

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Junkyard - Member

I do like hearing non P members who dont pay to help keep the website going tell us what it should be like.

I like riding my road bike and have a passing interest in the tour etc. But I do think there is too much road stuff on the site. As pointed out in another thread, there's far more interest in the tour than the downhill WC.

I know the OP is shamelessly trolling but they still have a point.

Did your mum not pack your favourite yogurt today?

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No, STW is a boring, middle aged, computer nerd, misery guts site.

Most of whom ride road bikes.

It's up to the magazine owners whether this turns into a road cycling forum.

Judging by the number of road cyclists I encounter these days they might as well ditch mountainbikes altogether.

I like riding my road bike and have a passing interest in the tour etc. But I do think there is too much road stuff on the site. As pointed out in another thread, there's far more interest in the tour than the downhill WC.

Do you think thats a problem? Too many "weekend warriors" who only ride as a hobby and dont take their interest into the proffesional side?

I am a roadie at heart but also love my MTB. I come on here as the craic is good, albeit the odd nobber but you get that everywhere.

Its a good forum and I would be dissapointed if we were all boxed into different forums.

At the end of the day, were all riding bikes?

filter out non-P users?

P___ Off!

That's what I'd call the function.

It's up to the magazine owners whether this turns into a road cycling forum.

Surely it's up to us lot? If you want more mtb threads, start them yourself.

So you're complaining about the majority of users doing somethgin you don't like?

That doesn't make you individual, just wierd.

Why does it matter what's on here? If you don't like the subject don't read the thread.

I'm an MTBer - no question. However in addition to 3 mtbs I also own a road bike and a commuter. Should I be banned from talking about them? What good would that do?

As pointed out in another thread, there's far more interest in the tour than the downhill WC

To be fair, there's more to the tour than the DH WC isn't there? It's a three week soap opera including cycling. There's also more interest about cricket, tennis, football and rugby.

DH is good to watch, but it's really just a question of will (s)he go faster, won't (s)he? Not much to talk about, is there?

who's going to win today? looks like europe car will be pace setting most of the day for voekler, which could allow HTC to save energy for the final lead out. downhill finish so it should be fast and strung out by the end, and Cav and HTC have to be favourites in those conditions.

having said that, the cat 4 climb not long from the finish could let a hill climber get away, unlikely though...

It's up to the magazine owners whether this turns into a road cycling forum.

I think you'll find that at the moment it's actually the forum posters who largely determine the direction the forum goes in..

Judging by the number of road cyclists I encounter these days they might as well ditch mountainbikes altogether.

How are you encountering these road cyclists- presumably they're not cluttering up the trails? Do you have a confession to make?

who's going to win today?

Surely it's up to us lot? If you want more mtb threads, start them yourself.

But, as I said... road cycling is where the market appears to be heading. Looks like a pretty easy commercial decision to me.

Gilbert is a good pick for the win today I think, surely a little disadvataged by the downhill finish, since he is strong on the climbing sprints? maybe thor could snatch it.

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Thor is a good shout so is EBH too for Sky

However, this could be a day the break stays away. Astana & Quickstep need something good.

Do you think thats a problem?

Not really, it's just for me personally I would prefer a mountain bike forum with a bit of stuff about road biking, rather than a general cycling forum with a bit about mountain biking. I realise it's not up to me though.

good trolling...... tarmac is the enemy of the mountain bike lol

stw is a niche forum for weight weenie singlespeed carbon 29'er riding IT guys in their late 30's who secretly wish they could ride off road, but can't and so ride road bikes, bitch and moan about anything and everything and always think they are right, no matter what.

accept it or go over to bike radar 😛

stw is a niche forum for weight weenie singlespeed carbon 29'er riding IT guys in their late 30's who secretly wish they could ride off road, but can't and so ride road bikes, bitch and moan about anything and everything and always think they are right, no matter what.

Joke's on you I don't have a 29er or work in IT.

Yeah, M8. there ain't nowhere near enough, like , getting TOTALLY STOKED and gnarly duuuuuuuuuuude. Its just, like, SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO lame here

MBUK?

Not really, it's just for me personally I would prefer a mountain bike forum with a bit of stuff about road biking, rather than a general cycling forum with a bit about mountain biking.

I'm a little confused by this. Do you think that there would be more mtb post if there was less other stuff? Who would start them as the people here obviously don't want to talk about just mtb's? Do you think the high % of non-mtb stuff keeps people away? Would you prefer this was PinkBike II?

Anyway more importantly...
Where's Realman's TDF thread?

They'll be going into the first sprint pretty quick off that hill.
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and with two wins out of the last two for the breakaway what are the chances of them getting away today?

Isn't this primarily a car forum?

Despite appearances, proper road cycling is far more hardcore than poncing around the woods on a mountain bike. Not that I don't love mtb'ing though...it's ace.

stw is a niche forum for weight weenie singlespeed carbon 29'er riding IT guys in their late 30's who secretly wish they could ride off road, but can't and so ride road bikes, bitch and moan about anything and everything and always think they are right, no matter what.

Joke's on you I don't have a 29er or work in IT.

sorry you are on the wrong forum, please sign up over at bike radar.

Roadies are foreign to STW

Posting 1000 threads a month still doesn't give anyone the right to say otherwise

STW Towers confuse your key audience at your peril

It's next week the fun starts when they hit the mountains. At the moment the majority of the GC contenders are just saving there strength & trying to stay out of trouble..

@ pedalhead

some 'hardcore mountain bikers' have no idea how tough competitive road racing is. the guys who take it seriously are as hard as nails. same with xc racers, some are really skillful, fearless and fast downhill. mucho respect.

i still joke and take the mickey out of them 😀

What changes if you take all the road post away? nothing.

Plus I've always seen this site as one where the people come first. And don't forget road is big in the summer, and it's TdF month.
And as for me, I'm well back into road riding to the extent of not owning an MTB anymore.
But for 12 years prior I wasn't off one.

What I can't understand, and I said this yesterday and someone else pointed it out further up. Roadies ride on the road right? so how come I/we/roadies annoy certain mtb'ers so much? how do our paths cross so often you need to rant about it?

Perhaps those whining might reflect that during Wimbledon, we have quite a few threads about tennis...

As a complete noob to this forum I am slightly surprised at the amount of road stuff on here.

I'm a roadie at heart but have come here for discussion on MTB stuff, this being a MTB forum and I have 2 mtbs.

However what would be good would be sub sections for various topics as opposed to dumping everything in to one giant topic section. I think this is the only forum I know that is like this?

i still joke and take the mickey out of them

Which is da law.

kudos100, yep agreed. I just can't quite get my head around why some people are so vociferously anti one type of cycling or another when actually they're all so interchangeable. Unless it's just about the bike or the image, and not the riding, which I suspect in some cases it may be.

Doesn't/ didn't Peaty train on a road bike? Don't want any half arsed amateurs around here, do we?
0.5/10 for the troll, must try a lot harder.

@ m1kea
Too much crossover. For example some people train on the road to race off it.
Then there's things like cyclocross, in it's pure form which would be in a road section. And cyclocross trail and enduro riding which wouldn't.

However what would be good would be sub sections for various topics as opposed to dumping everything in to one giant topic section. I think this is the only forum I know that is like this?

Indeed. Not exactly dying on it's feet though, is it?

Would anyone like to see a picture of my 26" bell end?

If you want more mountain bike posts then put them up. The posts are formed by the users and represent what they want. I think they'd be nuts to try and ban any mention of road bikes as a very large number of people don't class them selves as mountainbikers but cyclists. I find it bizarre that someone could claim to like mountain bikes but never even be curious about any other form of cycling.

kudos100, yep agreed. I just can't quite get my head around why some people are so vociferously anti one type of cycling or another when actually they're all so interchangeable. Unless it's just about the bike or the image, and not the riding, which I suspect in some cases it may be.

doesn't make any sense to me either. as long as people are riding and having fun i don't care what the bike is.

the image/fashion thing does annoy me a bit, if you don't have the right jeans, lycra, bike, then you can't be part of our gang. i've threatened to go out with a mate and his roadie group on my hack bike with flats and baggies 😀

This forum being different, without sub sections, mixing it all up is a major draw. There are plenty of other forums with sub sections and they're a PITA. As a noobie, you registered for a reason, if you don't like the layout, do you mind me asking what the reason was?

Have you haters read the forum rules?

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ie. not discussions about discussions?

@ oldgit

I was meaning more generic sections such as rides, kit, how to, and so on.

Hell if you look at the [url= http://www.timetriallingforum.co.uk/index.php? ]TT forum[/url], that's nicely segregated out and Testers are complete weirdos 😉 who do all their racing at sparrows fart o' clock of a morning

bikes are bikes, take out the roadbike stuff and all that will be left is the middle class angst.

FWIW i like the lack of sub forums, and the general mix of topics, there is stuff I dont go near, but I can spot that from the title

kudos100, yep agreed. I just can't quite get my head around why some people are so vociferously anti one type of cycling or another when actually they're all so interchangeable.

Is anyone actually that anti road biking though? It's just that many people don't necessarily come to a mountain bike forum for that. I watch the tour highlights sometimes, but the level of obsession about it on here is a bit weird imo.

I don't think it should be banned, or that they should split the forums up, but it should probably go in chat rather than the bike forum. It's not something that I lose sleep over however.

First few threads on the bike forum as of a few minutes ago:

Assos for girls too ? 33 simonfbarnes 27 seconds
El Mariachi Titanium 29er now all finished 🙂 20 gee 44 seconds
TdF Stage 10 Thread (possible spoiler) 24 CaptJon 1 minute
Is STW a mountain bike site? - 2 50 JonR 2 minutes
The first naughty boy of le tour 13 steve_b77 5 minutes
What's the road equivalent of a geared inbred? 31 imnotamused 6 minutes
1x10 CX

So....... Arse cream, titanium 29ers, TDF, STW road obsession, TDF, road bikes, CX bikes....

Sums it up pretty well imo.

but it should probably go in chat rather than the bike forum

how would this make a difference to anything?

but the level of obsession about it on here is a bit weird imo.

Why wierd? Its cycling, on TV, every night! We should be singing from the rooftops. If DH or MTB were on TV every night, and they managed to present it as well as the TdF, I'd be watching that as well, or both.

Its a forum, naturally we're here to discuss things as you can't actually ride on a forum. There's a lot to discuss about the TdF, therefor there's lots of discussions about it.

Is anyone actually that anti road biking though?

Yep, know of a few.

I sensed some vitriol on here towards roadies and was packing my bags to leave, but just had a short holiday and came back. There is at least one guy that frequents STW that does get under my skin far to easilly.

Yes he is a div but it's a matter of time before he gets a ban. Again.

13thfloormonk - Member

but the level of obsession about it on here is a bit weird imo.

Why wierd? Its cycling, on TV, every night! We should be singing from the rooftops. If DH or MTB were on TV every night, and they managed to present it as well as the TdF, I'd be watching that as well, or both.

Its a forum, naturally we're here to discuss things as you can't actually ride on a forum. There's a lot to discuss about the TdF, therefor there's lots of discussions about it.

+1.

It would be 'weird' if it was January and there was a daily thread talking about the TdF.

It would be 'weird' (and really rather sad) if any general cycling forum didn't have a daily TdF thread during the Tour.

Has anyone complained about the number of football/rugby threads that spring up during the winter?

I don't open threads with titles which hold no interest to me.

It would be 'weird' (and really rather sad) if any general cycling forum didn't have a daily TdF thread during the Tour.

But then I suppose it depends whether you see it as a 'general cycling forum'. I agree that the title and description kind of implies that, but Singletrack is a mountain bike magazine.

Has anyone complained about the number of football/rugby threads that spring up during the winter?

They're in the chat forum though.

Again, it's really not something that bothers me that much - it just seems like there's a lot of people who frequent this forum who only have a passing interest in mountain biking if that - which strikes me as a bit odd for the forum of a mountain bike magazine.

Would anyone like to see a picture of my 26" bell end?

If you show it to me I'll show you my 700c one 😉

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It's all cycling, it's all good. Get back under your bridge / flyover.

Re the comment about STWs 'core audience', we've done numerous polls before, most of us ride both road and off-road, we're the core audience. Not those who make a special effort to exclude either.

I haven't ridden a mountain bike in 2011. I ride my road bike or fixed bike most days though. There are loads like me, if we all went - I'm sure the forum would be less lively.

To be honest though, I can't see what you cry babies are on about.

I get fed up of people whinging about the subjects of the forum.

If you dont like the subject, don't open the post.

One of the reasons I have been coming here so long is the huge variety of subjects covered, mixed in with some really helpful bike stuff. I have both road and mountain bikes. I dont want to have to log into some other less interesting forum if I want road bike advice. I want to read about peoples fitted kitchen problems or when to rotate thier car tyres. I have learned a lot from this forum about all sort of things that are both handy and interesting. The format of mixing it all in is great - the photographic forums I use divide topics so I end up looking in the 'posted today' section rather than toil all through numerous and sometimes fruitless subsections. The less relevent conversations reveal a lot about people, make it a community, make it personal. Thats just as important in many ways as just getting narrow info on mountain bikes.

Its fun here, leave it alone! 🙂

II haven't ridden a mountain bike in 2011. I ride my road bike or fixed bike most days though. There are loads like me, if we all went - I'm sure the forum would be less lively.

I guess STW might regret the loss of advertising revenue, but I just find this a bit weird - why not use a road bike forum if you're not into mountain biking?

+1 for exactly what midnighthour put. I have learnt so much about life from STW, some of it concerning bicycles. It's what keeps me coming back here rather than a more 'specific' or 'organised' forum.

why not use a road bike forum if you're not into mountain biking?

I can answer that: because they're dead boring.

Well said midnighthour. Its a people forum, if you don't like how its done or whats in the threads, there is always elsewhere.

I can answer that: because they're dead boring.

So you come to a mountain bike forum and make that boring too? 😛

Grum.

1) I have been around a long time
2) I have met and ridden with a lot of people here
3) I don't see it as a mountain biking forum. Tell all the people who posted nearly 55,000 threads in chat that they should **** off as well
4) I pay my premier subs. Not because I particularly like the mag, but because I love, and want to support the forum
5) (and most importantly) because I can visit whichever forum I like. It's the people, not the topics, that make this place special.

3) I don't see it as a mountain biking forum. Tell all the people who posted nearly 55,000 threads in chat that they should * off as well

I never said anyone should * off did I - why so defensive? I just said I find it a bit odd. Jeez.......

Funny how all the people saying 'if you don't like the thread don't open it' have all come in here and whinged about this one. 😉

There should be more talk of cake.
What pre-ride cake, which post ride cake, Can cake aid skills?

You know, and lots of pictures of cake.

That pic of the plastic bloke on top of the Beetle (page 1) is surely the answer to molgrips aerodynamic dilemma.....!?

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I'm quite happy to ignore roadie stuff (if it's identified in the title) . . . but the forum is so busy that you have to scroll through several pages each day to find the interesting MTB stuff.

Splitting the Bike Forum into "MTB plus Other" or "Bike plus Roadie" would help me find the posts I'm interested in.

I don't see it as a mountain biking forum.

For compromise, after all it's a Bike forum.

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Despite the fact that it actually is a mountain biking forum?

Have you read the forum description?

Despite the fact that it actually is a mountain biking forum?

It's a forum for mtbers. Lots of us mtbers are broad minded enough to enjoy all sorts of bikes so I don't see the issue. There are plenty of threads on mtbing that have no interest to me. I just don't read them.

Splitting the Bike Forum into "MTB plus Other" or "Bike plus Roadie" would help me find the posts I'm interested in.

[url= http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/ ]Here you go. Pigeonhole away![/url]

but the forum is so busy that you have to scroll through several pages each day to find the interesting MTB stuff

If there were no road threads, you would still need to do the same.

So according to the forum description motorbike chat is ok in the bike forum too, it doesn't specify push bikes - presumably no-one would mind if half the threads in there were about motorbiking? 😉

but the forum is so busy that you have to scroll through several pages each day to find the interesting MTB stuff.

Splitting the Bike Forum into "MTB plus Other" or "Bike plus Roadie" would help me find the posts I'm interested in.

Click Bike forum above and count up how many actual road threads there is and then try to tell me they out number MTB threads.