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[Closed] Is Stan’s still the go-to sealant?

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Ive been out of MTB for a couple of years but when I was riding off-Road tubeless the only realistic sealant seemed to be stans.

i need to replenish supplies and before I buy some more, is there any new sealant which has stolen a march over good old stans?


 
Posted : 14/04/2018 7:30 am
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Stan's with fine glitter in it does the job


 
Posted : 14/04/2018 8:01 am
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I’ve got some glitter from my ghetto tubeless days, not to mention my dancing gig at the Yumbo 😉

any thoughts on Orange, there seems to be talk of it lasting longer before drying out.


 
Posted : 14/04/2018 8:08 am
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If you are using glitter, read this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/42038411/the-eco-friendly-guide-to-glitter


 
Posted : 14/04/2018 9:17 am
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If you are using glitter, read this.

Fair play to that.  Do you know if the biodegradable glitter mentioned suitable for the same job?


 
Posted : 14/04/2018 9:35 am
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I've used the JRA wheelmilk for years, and it seems pretty good.

Half the price of Stan's, and seems to last for ages. Also seals holes.

I tried experimenting with home-made stuff, but it was more trouble than it was worth and only marginally cheaper than JRA.


 
Posted : 14/04/2018 12:47 pm
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I've been using Orange Endurance recently, more expensive but thought I'd give it a go as some our bikes don't get used for a month at a time, and it dries up. Waiting to see if isn't Orange does the same...


 
Posted : 14/04/2018 2:10 pm
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I've been using Joe's just because of the price. It seems ok, but doesn't seem to seal at as high a pressure as Stan's (50psi instead of 60psi)


 
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Thanks for your thoughts. I’ve grabbed some Orange Endurance to try out.


 
Posted : 14/04/2018 6:02 pm
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I'm using a mix of Stans Race and Joe's. The Stans seals the bigger punctures and the Joe's stops the mix drying out.


 
Posted : 14/04/2018 10:23 pm
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Hutchinson Rep'air can be had in 5 litre vats if you want to "invest" long term. Tis fine, but dries out just the same as Stans.


 
Posted : 14/04/2018 10:37 pm
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Orange Seal doesn't dry up leaving stanimals inside.


 
Posted : 14/04/2018 10:43 pm
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I've been using orange seal for past two years on 3 different wheel sets with no issues and no drying out. I top it up every 2 or 3 months.


 
Posted : 15/04/2018 8:02 am
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been using Stans and like being able to inject through the valve. It does dry out but I tend to swap tyres round a bit so not a problem. Tried the race version but can't inject and dries out just as fast. Next set will put on with race sealant but top up with normal!


 
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It could just be me but I found the orange seal endurance sealant utterly useless at sealing anything, it didn't dry out in the time I was using it but it also didn't seal the three tiny punctures that I had either and each time I had to plug the holes using a tubeless repair worm thingy.

I found stans to be much better than Orange seal.

currently using peatys sealant which is way thicker than any sealant I've ever used before.


 
Posted : 15/04/2018 4:08 pm
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I tried JRA but it didn't seem as good as Stans, and also it didn't seem too happy to mix with stans.  TBH whether stans is the best or not I'll stick with it just because you can buy it anywhere and you don't need to worry about mixing brands


 
Posted : 15/04/2018 4:10 pm
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currently using peatys sealant which is way thicker than any sealant I’ve ever used before

Surely he’s chosen a ‘funny’ name for it like ‘Peatys Goo’, ‘Peatys Tyre Jizz’ or something equally witty...


 
Posted : 15/04/2018 5:51 pm
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I've tried various over the years and always go back to Stans and use the race fluid these days.

FYI the Schwalbe Doc Blue is also Stans fluid and can be picked up cheaper in some places.

I fell for the hype and tried some of Peaty's gloop but is wasn't sealing so I eventually had to put twice as much in as stans to get the stuff to actually cover the inside of the tyre = twice the weight which starts to defeat the object of lighter tubeless set ups!!

Talking of silly names, have you seen Cedric Gracia's 'Monkey's Sauce' sealant? 😀


 
Posted : 16/04/2018 1:34 pm
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Weight isn’t the object of a tubeless wheel for everyone, the potential benefits are lower pressures/rolling resistance/tyre deformation, weight and puncture resistance. Just like Keith’s ‘strong, light, cheap’ it’s up to the rider to pick what order they want those benefits in and choose accordingly.

I’m playing with Uberbike’s Tyre Matrix right now. Seems ok, but it’s non-latex, non-ammonia and completely incompatible with any latex based sealant.  If setting up a new wheel and tyre, no problems, but you’d need to replace tape and give the rim a good clean if trying something new on an existing wheel. No idea how successful cleaning a previously latex sealed tyre would be.  Should be fine if you’re thorough but I’ve not tried it.  The faff may be too much for some, but I like the lack of latex and ammonia

I tend to default to Stans simply because it’s usually what is on the shelf when I discover I need to buy sealant.  The best long term performance I’ve had was from Joe’s Eco though.


 
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Having tried Stans, I'm back on diluted art latex, I don't see where the benefits are to justfy the price.


 
Posted : 16/04/2018 2:04 pm
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Currently using Orange Seal, because that's what my LBS sells. I hadn't really given it much though, until I noticed that Maxxis have started adding this to their blurb - and I have four wheelsets on the go right now, all with Maxxis tyres. Oranse Seal say theirs is non-corrosive, which I hope means no ammonia.

"Note from the manufacturer:</b> refrain from using ammonium based tyre sealant. After a few months, the ammonium weakens the tyre’s carcass by 30 %."


 
Posted : 16/04/2018 2:06 pm
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What about the Efetto Mariposa Cafelatex?  It's the only sealant I've used, but that's been on road bikes.  It seems fine, but I don't have anything to compare it against.  I've just bought a mountain bike, and was thinking about using Cafelatex if I go tubeless.

Also, is there a shelf life on sealants when stored in an opened bottle?


 
Posted : 16/04/2018 8:12 pm
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I’ve used stans for years with not a single puncture, tried some jra a couple of year ago cos the lbs had some in when I needed some and got 3 punctures in 6 weeks - back to stans and puncture free since (although I’ve probably just jinxed me self now)!


 
Posted : 16/04/2018 8:33 pm

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