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Finally got permission to buy a new bike in March but now faced with the very depressing thought of my current bike being sold for very little due to its now redundant wheel size. What could i reasonably expect for a 2006/7 (last year with the knuckle design) Yeti 575 with Fox 36 talas and everything else a mix of Hope, Thomson and XT?
£500 if you;re lucky? might be better splitting it and selling all bits on ebay
Keep the bits, sell wheels frame and forks and replace with new wheel size bits at great expense, or get an equally capable 26" frame from last year for a fraction of the price and maybe upgrade forks or wheels, again getting top spec items for a fraction of the price of fashionable 650b items.
Last year I pretty much built my dream bike for the price of a deore spec 650b fashion item
Its a pity that 26" values fall so low, but even more so for someone like me at 6'4" who has only ridden 29ers for the last 7 or 8yrs or so and has no inclination to go to 26" no matter how cheap they are. The tightwad in me cant take advantage of all the cheap 26" bling coming on the market 🙂
Don't think the wheel size is all that relevant it's the 2006/7 bit that means it's not worth much.
I'd split it if I were you.
It's worth more than £500 - I've just sold my Slackline frame and Hope Wheels for £350.
The only downside may be that people looking at 26inch stuff expect a mega bargain because it's now 'obselete'.
It'll sell easily enough, I eBay'd a load of 26 stuff recently and was pleasantly surprised.
The wider MTB public don't care so much about wheel sizes and I'd wager there are far more 26 inch bikes out there than newer 650b or 29ers.
Tyre choice for 650b is still rubbish (and expensive) which is the main reason I've kept hold of a 26 HT for winter riding, mud tyres are ridiculously cheap in this size, clearance is ace, bike is great to chuck around and the wheels are bombproof....two years worth of use and never needed any attention
Personally I feel there is still a place for 26 inch wheels.
£500?Awww cr@p.
Thats not really going to generate enough to support the purchase of a new bike so will think about splitting.
I also have a 26' Cotic Soul (2001 model) with Revelation forks is that worth even less??
Why sell it? Didint sell my 26 Zesty, now used for winter work. the resale value would be poor, I get more out of it this way.
really LoLTyre choice for 650b is still rubbish
Why can't some people on threads like this just accept that others simply like having a brand new bike with brand new bits and don't want to recycle old parts, search for decent second hand parts, buy OEM or returned/seconds from Merlin and the like or stick to older standards just because they're cheap? You pay a premium but if you're happy to so what?
I've built up plenty of bikes from parts, some new, some second hand but to me there's nothing like picking up a mint new bike from the shop.
As for the OP's bike, IMO your biggest stumbling block is the frame's age, not it's wheel size. It's stuck in the space between classic and modern so no one really wants it, unless it's cheap. As mentioned above, your best bet is to split and sell as parts as the individual bits you mention are worth a fair bit in good condition.
Don't think the wheel size is all that relevant it's the 2006/7 bit that means it's not worth much.
+1
Why can't some people on threads like this just accept that others simply like having a brand new bike with brand new bits and don't want to recycle old parts
Not seeing any of that, in this instance the OP is clearly budget conscious, and a very easy way to keep the cost of a new bike down is to reuse perfectly good parts which are otherwise being devalued by an old/undesirable frame.
I also have a 26' Cotic Soul (2001 model) with Revelation forks is that worth even less??
I'd have thought so.
Not seeing any of that,
Keep the bits, sell wheels frame and forks and replace with new wheel size bits at great expense, or get an equally capable 26" frame from last year for a fraction of the price and maybe upgrade forks or wheels, again getting top spec items for a fraction of the price of fashionable 650b items.
But that's not necessarily at odds with what the OP asked.
He's not stated "I categorically have to have brand new, so don't even suggest keeping old parts or buying second hand". Don't understand your point. 😕
He's been "given permission" to buy a new bike 10 months ago, so I'm guessing he's not got £10k sat there to buy a new Bronson with XX1 and Enves...
The agreement with my SO is a one in one out and we are a bit financially constrained at the moment . So it looks like im gonna have to sell both my mountain bikes for a total return of less than half what i need for new bike (budget of £2.5k max)
Goddamnit.
What are you going to get that is an improvement over a 2006 575?
Nothing! That's what! 🙂
just had a look on pinkbike small ads for 27.5 complete bikes
blazing bikes are doing a brand new Intense Tracer 2014 for £2039.
niiiice
(this isn't spam - just bored at work and wanted to see what complete builds I'd get if I was in the market )
🙂
ha ha. very true. that bikes been brilliant for years. but ive tried a 29er and im hooked.
No you're not, you just [i]want[/i] something new... Saver yer moneys. 🙂
Don't understand your point.
My point is as I said, If someone wants a new bike they want a new bike. I'm sure they will have considered their options so replies like 'You can build up a not new bike for loads less' or 'Only an idiot would buy 650b/29" when 26" is so cheap' or 'The price of X is stupid, I could build 'nearly' the same bike for less' or 'Why get a new bike, it won't be better then your old bike' are not helpful replies.
Going on what the OP has said it seems to me he wants a new bike.
Sorry OP, I'll get back in my box now. Good choice going 29". I did it a year or so ago and wouldn't go back now. Defo split both your bikes down, you'll get far more. Think my mates Specialized Camber Evo was less then £2000 and that's a great bike so good luck searching. 8)
[i]Finally got permission to buy a new bike in March[/i]
Still live your Mum? 😉
What size frame is it?
Going on what the OP has said it seems to me he wants a new bike
Fair enough, I can't see that he's stated it anywhere. Advice was fair I thought.
Based on the 26" new carbon wheels* I've been trying to sell for a month then the answer would be 'it won't sell'.
*Brand new unboxed easton wheels if anyone is interested, rrp £1500, selling for £450 plus postage.
Split it all. You'll have no trouble selling all that for more than £500 total. Frame - up to £250-£270 ish if in good nick I reckon.
I am staying with 26" and I haven't seen many bargains around, looking at wheels and forks in particular. Things aren't selling as people want too much for their stuff!
Rob, I reckom a lot of people are hanging onto 26in stuff as well. Lots of people are still feeling the pinch financially, and just because there's something new, it doesn't mean your current bike is anything different to what it's always been, does it?
I saw all this nonsense coming and bought a few choice bits that'll keep me in nice 26in bikes for the foreseeable future. 🙂
thestabiliser - MemberDon't think the wheel size is all that relevant it's the 2006/7 bit that means it's not worth much.
I agree with this. To maximise value you'd be best to split it, sell the bits you don't need, and keep the rest for your new build.
26' wheels? *another* standard?
should roll over anything 😉
Realistically if you split it and do the leg work to flog the bike of in parts you might get a bit more (lets say £750 for the sake of argument?), but are you dead set on just buying a whole new bike off the peg, or would you be open to simply flogging off the anything 26" specific (Frame/Wheels/Fork) and keeping various bits to fit to a new frame in your chosen wheel size?
A nice shiny new 29er frame Fork and wheel-set could be had for less, depending on what you go for, and then brakes and drive should be 95% transferable (assuming they're all fully functional) and at least gets you rolling, they can always be replaced at a later date when the SO's Scrutinizing you so much.
If an all new bike with no self assembly faff or re-using of your old parts is the goal then I think you might simply have to lower your sights, or apply for additional Funding...
are 29ers really that much better than 26's?
OMFG I'll just take all my 26" stuff to the tip.
I was gonna sell my Carbon 456 frame but I'll just put it out with the bins 🙄
are 29ers really that much better than 26's?
Yep by a whole 3 'ers'... You can't argue with science.
Completely worthless. I can collect it for disposal, and save you a job if you like.
[i] I think you might simply have to lower your sights[/i]
Balls! Raise them (ie. keep the 575)
Just counted
In the family we are talking Five frames, eight pairs of wheels, four sets of sus forks, heaven knows how many tyres and spare tyres including snow spikes etc, plus a box of about 30 spare tubes.
I reckon it will be a fair while before this household is ready to move over to a new standard!
Being a cynical profiteering git pay's I reckon:
STW Classified and PB are all well and good but You'll probably get top dollar on ebay where a small contingent seem to regularly make stupid buying decisions and have little idea of true values (but obviously fee's will have an impact on what you actually get in the end)...
IMO the best thing to do is hold off and list your kit in late Jan with an end date in Early Feb to deliberately target people's Pay-day, counting on the fact that Feb is a "Short month" and they are hopefully feeling a bit flush after January, just to sway their judgement a bit...
Lots of pretty pictures and including "bonuses" like the seat post/BB/Headset (that probably won't fit your new frame anyway) help sweeten the perceived deal on a frame, Is it helitaped? bang on about that a bit, gullible buyers seem to read "Helitape" as "Shield of invulnerability" Oh and don't blather on about the original list price, it is now irrelevant.
A 26' bike will be worth £1000s in scrap value alone!
Someone has set up a site for this:
www.recycle26inch.com
Amazing.
40 posts and no-one's suggested a skillz courze rather than a new bike.
What the hell?
[IMO the best thing to do is hold off and list your kit in late Jan with an end date in Early Feb to deliberately target people's Pay-day, counting on the fact that Feb is a "Short month" and they are hopefully feeling a bit flush after January, just to sway their judgement a bit...]
I think that, plus a fair bit of bull to the SO on true costs of bike, are going to be the way forward.
I recently, in a bored hour, costed out splitting and selling my 2013 Soul and replacing with a same specced 650b one. The gap was well over over £1200 🙁 thankfully I'm not doing it as I dont think I would be able to notice the difference 🙂
I'll be keeping mine till I cant get same quality bits for it, at which stage I'll but a full new bike, probably 650B if thats the 'standard' at that time. Hopefully thats into 2017...
cookeaa - Member
Being a cynical profiteering git pay's I reckon:STW Classified and PB are all well and good but You'll probably get top dollar on ebay where a small contingent seem to regularly make stupid buying decisions and have little idea of true values (but obviously fee's will have an impact on what you actually get in the end)...
IMO the best thing to do is hold off and list your kit in late Jan with an end date in Early Feb to deliberately target people's Pay-day, counting on the fact that Feb is a "Short month" and they are hopefully feeling a bit flush after January, just to sway their judgement a bit...
Lots of pretty pictures and including "bonuses" like the seat post/BB/Headset (that probably won't fit your new frame anyway) help sweeten the perceived deal on a frame, Is it helitaped? bang on about that a bit, gullible buyers seem to read "Helitape" as "Shield of invulnerability" Oh and don't blather on about the original list price, it is now irrelevant.
Always warms the cockles to see someone suggest stiffing over an unsuspecting punter just because they have marginally more knowledge than the buyer....gives me a proper warm fuzzy feeling 🙄
are 29ers really that much better than 26's?
Depends on the rider. You would notice the difference between the two so it will come down to which pro's you prefer and which con's you like the least.
For me 29ers really are that much better, for others they won't be.
now redundant wheel size
Redundant? Wtf? Are they policing trail centres now and impounding obselete bikes?
FFS 26 is still as good as it ever was. Stop worrying about it and shop with your eyes open.
So whats my 2011 anthem x3 26r worth then? Basically as standard (xt/slx) with upgrades wheelset
Id say bugger all by the sound of things...
i am ****ing sick and tired of the wheelsize debate, turning up on almost every ****ing thread
its a ****ing disgrace,
this forum is a ****ing joke
nobody should care what you ride
just do what you can with what you've got, or what you can afford to buy next if you want a new bike
It's a forum Jonty. When no one cares about wheel size any more we'll find something else to disagree about. That's what tends to happen on forums.
I am **** sick of people reading threads they know they won't like before they open them simply so that they can complain about the thread.
Tbh I think the whole "Cheap 26" parts" thing is an ideal that never actually materialised.
I am on the look out for maybe a FS 26" frame, and maybe a new wheel set, but everything is just as (read: over) expensive as it always was with people clinging onto their hopes for a lot of value on their 5 year old bikes.
Now, that's not to say "they're not worth that" - perhaps they are? IF that's what everything is selling at, that's what it's worth.
It just might not always be what I want to spend on a 2nd hand bike.
I am ****ing sick of people saying they're sick of people.
****ing disgrace!
****ing complaining sick of people ****!
Tbh I think the whole "Cheap 26" parts" thing is an ideal that never actually materialised.
you think?
6 months ago I paid £300 for a mint orange ST4 frame (RRP £1200).
I've just paid £400 for a pretty tidy transition bandit frame. (RRP £1500?)
you can have the ST4 for £250 if you like.
Frame value also depends on the size, just try getting a decent small size full suss 26er cheap secondhand - took me ages and I still ended up compromising!
Never seen a Yeti frame go for cheap on eBay yet...
Have we done Stonehenge, yet? 😉
[i]I am **** sick of people reading threads they know they won't like before they open them simply so that they can complain about the thread.[/i]
I often protest about threads by not opening them and not commenting. Do you notice?
3 bikes all 26ers and not thinking of changing but if I bought new now it would probly be 29 cos I'm 6'4"
Tbh I think the whole "Cheap 26" parts" thing is an ideal that never actually materialised.
Really? I have two new sets of wheels that should have been well out of my price range. Happy spiny…
Not seen huge deals on frames and forks… but then I've not been looking… bought Pikes at a sensible price though, no crazy reductions out there for the stuff that's known to be good… no matter what the wheels size.
you think?6 months ago I paid £300 for a mint orange ST4 frame (RRP £1200).
That is a 5 year old frame tho, right? By STW standards that's bang on what it should cost.
The Bandit for £400 sounds great though. I'd love to find a deal like that.
Really? I have two new sets of wheels that should have been well out of my price range. Happy spiny…
Yeah, maybe I've not been as exhaustive looking at I could of been. I'm sure there are people looking for a quick sale and putting out bargains. My real point was that *generally* everything is still priced as it was.
ST4 is 2012 model. So 2 yrs old when I bought it with 100 miles on it.
Bandit is also 2012.
Agree as above, ST4's din't hold value like a 5 or Alpine 160 before the 650b arguement came along.
26 redundant? I dont plan to move on to 26 or 29 anytime
in the near future! Its fun blowing away most of the 650b/29 crew on my old 26 stumpy evo lol.
Tsk tsk
Not been on stw for ages & the place has gone to sh** !
All these posts & no ones has mentioned any bike of any wheel size being "chuckable" or even used the phrase "makes the trail come alive" !!
I'm going, you lot should be ashamed of yourselves I tell thee.
Oh no I still like riding a 26 steel hardtail and have no desire to change. I also don't have a beard. I also don't really care what anyone else rides but like to see nice bikes having fun.
I have a 26er Hardrock. My first and only MTB which I have gradually upgraded as budget allowed: forks, brakes, single chainring, wheels (WTB singleduty hub on Mavic EN321), decent wide bars and short stem. I absolutely love it. When I started on it, I was being beaten up by the trail, which is exhausting. Time and practice has made the whole thing smoother.
I am 6' 3" but when I hopefully get a bike on my (very low) budget in the next few months, it will be 26. Almost certainly a Commencal Meta AM or SL. If I could simply swop all my stuff onto a new Commencal frame, I'd do that but the rear hub spacing on the frames needs 142x12 not 135x9. Also, it is hard to get 120-140mm forks in 9mm QR to fit the wheels my wife bought me as a gift.
It would frustrate me to have two bikes and no possibility of swopping wheels, tyres between them. Also, very rocky twisty trails around me and I like the 26. I have sat on 29ers and felt too high up and cumbersome. Probably would take a bit of getting used to.
Although everyone is saying you get nothing for 26er stuff, I have not seen much evidence of cheap 26er frames or wheels or forks. (in a size Xl, ahem).
I do have a beard.
Wow OP and I was looking for a yeti frame on eBay. If your selling?