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*raises eyebrow*
Got bored after a couple of minutes. Don't think I saw a single pedal stroke in that time.
What benefits are e-bikes supposed to offer the downhiller apart from an easier ride back up?
Man is 1.3% slower on a bike (I presume) he is less familiar with. Not sure what that is meant to prove, as he seems to acknowledge. "This has been a beautifully meaningless video" in his own words.
According to Strava I was faster on most of my local descents on my kili flyer than I've managed to get on my longer travel Jam2.
In fairness I picked up a fairly serious long term injury in the middle of all that which is probably a factor.
However, in terms of how much riding I can actually do in a given time, no contest, E-MTB all the way.
Nice trails to have on his doorstep!
I am a fairly typical Ebike user (I’m an early 50s fat biffer with a ****ed up leg)
On terrain like that video, where there isn’t much pedalling I’d expect (ME) to be about as quick on either Ebike or clockwork.
However, anywhere that more pedalling is needed the Ebike would be quicker. (For Me)
The fitter you are, the less advantage an Ebike would give, because you can naturally exceed the 25kmh speed limiter.
For me, downhills are generally slower on the e-bike but uphills are much faster. At my local trails I get 2 runs to most people on a normal bikes 1.
When you hit the max speed for assistance you end up with a heavy bike to pedal but it all depends where you ride.
On really steep trails it’s not an issue as the weight of the bike pushes it on but it’s more noticeable on the flatter trails when you are pedalling and over the max speed.
That being said, I love my enduro bike and my e-bike and ride both equally.
Liam is only having a bit of fun tbh, he's a beast on a bike, and a cracking guy, he's fast on whatever he rides.
All my mates on ebikes are faster on the descents than they were on clockwork bikes, I believe it to be a mixture of the advantage of all that weight around the central lowest point of the frame, and how fresh they are at the top of climbs, ready to attack descents.
Well he wasn’t hanging about!
“These rocks are a wee bit slippery so I’ll take it easy...” 😳
I got rid of my normal full-sus shortly after getting my Levo, I just couldn’t see me using it enough, especially as my local trails are pretty hardtail friendly. The Levo is the quickest bike I’ve ever had (even without the motor!) but it also has the biggest wheels, most travel, best fork and is the longest, lowest and slackest at sag.
There's a de-restricted ebike I see around my way that I'd struggle to catch in my car!
One time when riding to meet up with my pal at Waverly station I ended up having a bit of a race between the few sets of lights on the A701, I was amazed by how fast they shot off when the lights went green but was equally shocked how easily I caught and passed them until it all started again at the next set of lights (was on a mountain bike). All good fun just like the days when I used to race roadies through Edinburgh on my fixie (didn't win many but it's the taking part that matters, isn't it?).
I've never ridden one and was going to cheekily hire one at Winlatter this summer as I pass-ish it for work. Can see me getting one when I'm old and f$$ked!
Or had a shed load of world class trails on my doorstep.
What benefits are e-bikes supposed to offer the downhiller apart from an easier ride back up?
I've heard it said that the extra weight of the bike, particularly the sprung weight, keeps it planted and makes the suspension work better.
I thought it was anything but meaningless, and showed that everything being equal, a normal bike was probably a better proposition from a pure DH standpoint.
The guy can clearly ride, and looked like he was able to be more aggressive and have more fun on the normal bike, throwing it around etc.
I do wonder whether the difference would even be noticeable for an average rider and average tracks though.
Just makes me sad that Liam no longer appears in videos with the rest of the Dudes.
On flatter pedalling trails my e-sommet definitely slower than my Ripley V4, when riding between 18-20mph so above motors cut off, couldn’t keep up with my mate on my Ripley, once any incline then yes ebike faster, trails in local woods some faster on Ripley some faster on ebike, a complete loop of Bedgebury faster on ebike