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Was in a bike shop lunchtime with a mate picking up his bike after a service.
Got chatting with one of the guys working there and strayed onto subject of 29ers.
He is utterly convinced that they will take over the world and soon only 'toy bikes from Halfords' will have 26 inch wheels. He dismissed STW's opinion that 650b will be upon us any time soon.
Wondering if my bike will be almost obsolete soon, you know, being old school 26 😉
I haven't tried one and am in the camp of 'if it ain't broke...', but makes you wonder how far it will go.
He could have just been spouting what the only brand in the shop have indoctrinated them all to say...

...yes, it was Specialised.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 5:14 pm
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26" bikes have already become 'kids only' in the States.

I think 650B will win with shorter Americans and hang on in there for more expensive bikes though.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 5:16 pm
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26 will be the cognescenti's choice!


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 5:20 pm
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29ers have been around since the 80's, wheel size does not make a bike. Just ride what you like and then you have the best bike in the world. 😀


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 5:27 pm
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I've long been of the opinion that 'if it ain't broke' I can survive with just a 26" wheel bike.

I have been mulling it over though.

Had a 300 yard Pootle on my brother's Singular Swift. Casually rode a drop off I've never been happy with, launched it down some steps which usually wig me out. Then accelerated off with no extra rotating mass.

Consequently I will be spending on a 29er soon. Just felt more natural to ride for me.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 6:28 pm
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26" bikes have already become 'kids only' in the States.

Not further up north on the shore though. They're popular in parts of the States that involve riding up and down fireroads.

Relatively balanced article -

http://www.nsmb.com/4479-29er-shore-worthy/

Interesting to note the wheels don't seem to make up for a loss of travel. I don't think you'll be seeing any 180mm+ rigs that ride well - being sold commercially anytime soon.

As others have said, I reckon it's going to be:

* 29ers for 0 to 150 mm of travel

* 650B for 160mm+ of travel

* 26 for 180 - 200mm of travel

There's also the small issue of 29ers still losing to 650b and 26ers in world cup xc races, turns out they aren't better all the time. Just some of the time - like it or not there is probably a limit to where increased wheel size becomes useful and I reckon 29ers may be right on the border....I mean why not 30? 32? 33? or even 28? Has anyone ever done randomized controlled trials on wheel size laptimes? No!

At the end of the day those of us with multiple bikes for multiple purposes are going to be worse off as we're going to lose the ability to swap components - eg I'm not going to be able to swap wheels between a DJ bike and my All-mountain bike.

All because some Lycra clad roadie blowhards can't ride rock gardens.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 6:36 pm
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Well, if a bloke working in an lbs is convinced then it must be true....


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 6:37 pm
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Well he sells specialized.....impeachable.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 6:45 pm
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turns out they aren't better all the time. Just some of the time

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I quite agree. Flat, fast and stutter bumps? 29er. Steep climbs and lots of tight corners? 26".
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I'm still in the 26" camp, just personal preference. However, I'm really hoping 29ers don't take over completely, I would hate 26s to be nobbled by something as daft as tyre companies stopping making decent tyres for them.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 6:49 pm
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-Gazes in to crystal ball-

In 5 years time everyone will have bought 29ers and forgotten that 26ers ever existed (everyone will have long ago realised the 650B was a rubbish idea).

Then, with bike sales falling some guy in the R&D department of Specialgiant will dust down the archives. All of a sudden these new magic 26ers will be on the market.

'Turns quicker than a 29er' yells the adverts. Bike mag journos are converted overnight - 'So much more fun than a 29er' screams the MBR headlines 'The new singletrack King' shouts STW.

Everyone rushes out and buys one and 4% of riders notice a real, discernible difference.

Fork manufacturers rejoice as they can sell NOS that they've had kicking around for years as the latest greatest thing...

Cheers

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Posted : 22/03/2013 6:51 pm
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I'm with Bwaarp - for the majority of longer travel bikes (I'd actually go from 160mm upwards), i.e. Enduro into DH/FR, then 26" will rule for a long time yet. Out of turn acceleration, wheel stiffness and strength, plus "flickability" all work better on a 26" wheel.

UK conditions might be more forgiving, but go out to Europe and see some of the stuff round the Ligurean coast and a 26" wheel is far and away the best option. If you're a UK cross country/trail rider, that might well be different though.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 6:56 pm
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Plus, 29ers honest to god look awful. Mountain biking was starting to look less nerdy post 2003.

29ers will have us looking like roadies again. In fact I'm just going to flounce and buy a new KTM 450 if 29ers take off - it will cost me about the same as slowly replacing my 26 inch mountain bikes over the next several years and I can't stand buying something I really really despise the look of.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 7:01 pm
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Not sure why everyone has to pick one or the other 🙂 26" 140-150mm trail bike + 29" 100mm hardtail is what both me and the missus have here. Do think the benefits of 29ers suit XC hardtails very well.

It doesn't stop me wanting a Nerve 29er though sadly.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 7:02 pm
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Just ride what you like and then you have the best bike in the world.

Crazy talk!


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 7:05 pm
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That's all well and good - riding is meant to just be fun and you can have fun on pretty much anything but I'll throw my toys out the pram and will buy a new crosser if 26 inch forks become so rare I can't find parts for them.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 7:07 pm
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Agreed, 160mm AM bike here + a hardtail 29er is on the shopping list= all I need


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 7:08 pm
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29ers are the future because soon that will be, probably, all that is on offer from the main manufacturers. You can take the opinion that that is because the main manufacturers know that is the way forward, or the marketing men have influenced them to sell more bikes. But ultimately it's academic. Either way the future seems to nee either 650b, 29er or a mix of the two. But not 26et. But that doesn't Mean you have to sell up now and convert for the sake of it. If you're happy with you're 26er, keep it. If you're in the market for a new bike anyway, you'll be a fool not to consider a 650b or 29er. Wheelsize on its own doesn't make a good bike. But there are some great 650b and 29er bikes out there as well as 26ers.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 7:10 pm
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I definitely don't think 29ers will be the all that is on offer in the future:

* They don't suit smaller riders

* They don't suit long travel applications especially when that rider is less than 6 foot tall.

* They're still losing XC events to 26 and 650b.

They'll have to keep lots of 26 frames available for youngsters, short people, women and long travel applications. Privateers will also want 26 inch frames so whoever still makes them will make a small fortune.

This will increase the costs of production of frames, wheels and forks and will see to it that we pay even more for MTB's.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 7:14 pm
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Not sure why everyone has to pick one or the other 26" 140-150mm trail bike + 29" 100mm hardtail is what both me and the missus have here.

Not sure why? I'll give you a clue...

It's because were not all made of money... 😯


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 7:16 pm
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Who cares how big the wheels are.
Your on a bike, & that's what matters.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 7:23 pm
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He works in a bike shop selling 29ers, is opinion is tosh.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 7:25 pm
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Agree with takisawa2.

just ride what you want! if you don't like 29er...don't ride one!


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 7:27 pm
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Yeah but I'm suspicious the manufactures are going to stop making 26inch parts - or jack them up massively in cost thanks to 29.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 7:31 pm
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I've recently swapped from a 26er to a 29er and have never had any desire for 26ers to become obsolete but if it means bwaarp will p1ss off and buy a crosser then I'm all for it. Bloody hell man, every time this is mentioned you're all over it like a broken bloody record. You bleating on about it on internet forums isn't going to change anything so get over it would you?


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 7:36 pm
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I am sure the marketing folk would like to convince every dedicated cyclists who spends shit loads on bikes that we need 140 mm suspension, slack angles, a dropper post, Ti, carbon , 10 gears etc
I doubt they will stop you can still get 7 speed but you may not want to put it on your bike.
Not really ridden a 29 er to comment tbh but they need to do something to get us to buy stuff and this is it.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 7:38 pm
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I thought 26" was obsolete anyway, apart from for shorties


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 7:55 pm
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Don't give a proverbial either way.

There is no "better" - ride what you got and enjoy it. If you ever get into the world where wheel size makes a difference to what you earn then congratulations.

In the mean time.....get on with what you are at and stop trying to suggest other people don't know what they want because there kit is marginally different from yours.

After all, life is too short and the craic is what it's all about.

Amen!


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 9:14 pm
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Whatever 😈

http://bikeintelligencer.com/2012/03/the-29er-conundrum-revolution-or-acquired-taste/

People are going back! :mrgreen:

Another facet of the ‘niner buzz that frustrates us is the broad generalizing about the bikes with little quantitative basis. Commentary after promo commentary hints that the bigger tires make riding over obstacles easier, forward momentum stronger and ride stability greater. While those may be observationally true, we have yet to see any scientific substantiation.

In that vein, we were intrigued to see the 29er versus 26er shootout in the most recent (No. 23) issue of Mountain Flyer magazine by racer Michael McCalla, who compared similarly set up bikes over a variety of terrains for time and power output (wattage).

McCalla’s startling conclusion: No quantifiable difference between the two. Interestingly, McCalla experienced the same feedback that 29er evangelists promote regarding ride feel. But none of it translated into any actual ride advantage.

BOOM! That's my problem with them, there's no scientific evidence to back up any of the claims being made other than half baked anecdotes that probably amount to the placebo effect.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 9:17 pm
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Interesting opinion or just retailer/sales guff? )

People are tribal by nature, wheel sizes have just become another tribal divider where bikes should be a tribal unifier.

Personally I don't believe a wheel size limits any of us, I can ride what I like on a 26 or a 29. It just takes a little adaption for a few rides, that's about it. We all have preferences but they're never set in stone unless you want them to be. The day I decide "I will only ride this kind of bike" is a day I hope never comes.


 
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we were intrigued to see the 29er versus 26er shootout in the most recent (No. 23) issue of Mountain Flyer magazine by racer Michael McCalla, who compared similarly set up bikes over a variety of terrains for time and power output (wattage).

McCalla’s startling conclusion: No quantifiable difference between the two. Interestingly, McCalla experienced the same feedback that 29er evangelists promote regarding ride feel. But none of it translated into any actual ride advantage.

no sh!t... it's about feel and fun and what seems right for you, either way. I can't believe people test all that with wattageometers etc. Well, I can, but common sense will say it's too variable and all comes down to the rider - one bike will match your preferences better, but that may not be faster, or it may be but if it is it's not because the wheels or sus or frame material is better etc, it's because you interact with it more effectively on that particular terrain.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 9:25 pm
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That's all well and good - riding is meant to just be fun and you can have fun on pretty much anything but I'll throw my toys out the pram and will buy a new crosser if 26 inch forks become so rare I can't find parts for them.

Would you really do that? Could you not try and have fun on a big wheeler? I've never ridden one but i think if I did, i could have fun on it.

On the subject of crossers, would you go 2 or 4 stroke 😉


 
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I've recently swapped from a 26er to a 29er and have never had any desire for 26ers to become obsolete but if it means bwaarp will p1ss off and buy a crosser then I'm all for it. Bloody hell man, every time this is mentioned you're all over it like a broken bloody record. You bleating on about it on internet forums isn't going to change anything so get over it would you?
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This is the reason why they're taking off! A 29er has no place in my world of riding, and is just a load of marketing bs... But it's people like you that accept it that causes the problem! Do I like the 29er-no! Is it bothering me-yes! It does not benefit my riding in any way, shape or form! I think I may too buy a crosser if the 26" wheel becomes extinct!


 
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Plus, 29ers honest to god look awful...

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come on, that looks ace, who doesn't want to have a ride on Ed's new [s]beard[/s] bike?

I think I may too buy a crosser if the 26" wheel becomes extinct!

they never will, what's the problem again?


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 9:38 pm
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For some [s]people[/s] victims, mtb is all about the [i]image[/i].


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 9:42 pm
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Interesting opinion???

Unless I read that incorrectly the author didn't really say that his big wheeler was any better or more fun than his old bike, just that it was possible to ride it on gnarly trails. Not exactly breaking news.


 
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http://bikeintelligencer.com/2012/03/the-29er-conundrum-revolution-or-acquired-taste/

All this "they're for tall people" stuff is frustrating as well. 6'6" and I'm too tall for the vast majority of decent value 29ers out there. I'd love a Titus Rockstar but I'm too tall, I'm too tall for the vast majority of flash steel frames everyone's banging on about. Even the top end ones, Santa Cruz XXL bikes are carbon only, new Ibis Ripley, tiny thing! Quite keen on the Anthem X2 29er jobby last year, seemed much better value than the X1, it didn't come in XL!

29ers are just for short people!


 
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I think that to me, and more than a few others, the whole 29er thing absolutely smacks of 'manipulation'. None of the arguments put forward explain the drastic and wholesale market changes we've seen, and the 26er 'happy accident' story doesn't bear scrutiny either. Objectively, it all just looks [i]weird[/i].

Meanwhile the detractors all seem geriatric, confused and defensive, while the advocates are all round-eyed and froth-flecked. The whole thing has developed an Apple v Google vibe. It isn't good.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 9:55 pm
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It's not about the bike!

Just buy whatever you like the look of.


 
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This is the reason why they're taking off! A 29er has no place in my world of riding, and is just a load of marketing bs... But it's people like you that accept it that causes the problem! Do I like the 29er-no! Is it bothering me-yes! It does not benefit my riding in any way, shape or form! I think I may too buy a crosser if the 26" wheel becomes extinct!

Meh. Shut the door on your way out.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 10:00 pm
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Went into Leisure Lakes in Daventry couple of days ago. There was maybe one or two 26" inch bikes for sale, out of maybe 40-50 on display.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 10:01 pm
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Wondering if my bike will be almost obsolete soon, you know, being old school 26

Not at all.

It's already fully obsolete.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 10:03 pm
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well, I'm calling this thread as misleading, the opinions are not that interesting, I'm sure I've seen most of them before....


 
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Went into Leisure Lakes in Daventry couple of days ago. There was maybe one or two 26" inch bikes for sale, out of maybe 40-50 on display.

Yeah, it just looks weird. It's all a bit 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers'.


 
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Has anyone ever done randomized controlled trials on wheel size laptimes? No!

Erm...

http://reviews.mtbr.com/26er-or-29er-which-was-faster-at-the-24-hours-in-the-old-pueblo

And it's even by a 'fireroad loving' American.


 
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I think that to me, and more than a few others, the whole 29er thing absolutely smacks of 'manipulation'.

NO it doesn't, YOU have YOUR riding style, YOU spend YOUR money. Plenty of reasons why in certain applications 29" wheels work better than 26".

SO many people who 29ers don't suit just ignore these benefits, which is fair play as it doesn't affect them. What is frustrating is how they bang on about "marketing bs" like a broken record and how no one has won a world cup DH race on one.

Do you people actually like riding bikes? If you do go effing ride one and worry about the worlds supply of 26" vanishing when it does.


 
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I've recently swapped from a 26er to a 29er and have never had any desire for 26ers to become obsolete but if it means bwaarp will p1ss off and buy a crosser then I'm all for it. Bloody hell man, every time this is mentioned you're all over it like a broken bloody record. You bleating on about it on internet forums isn't going to change anything so get over it would you?

Lol just spat my brandy all over the keyboard.

I'm actually a bit worried about pussywillow, he's gone very quiet.

It's a reasonable hypothesis that bwaaaaarp is pussywillow, except that bwaaaaaaaarp writes in coherent English, pussywillow doesn't.

Unless he's very good at writing in different voices, like the guy who wrote Cloud Atlas.


 
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NO it doesn't, YOU have YOUR riding style, YOU spend YOUR money. Plenty of reasons why in certain applications 29" wheels work better than 26".

Yep...round-eyed and froth-flecked. Probably quite shouty too I expect 😆

And I'm questioning the behaviour of the market, not the actual bikes.


 
Posted : 22/03/2013 10:18 pm
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I recently acquired a 20 year old mx5, it's way more fun to drive than my passat, though it's actually not as fast. Speed does not equal enjoyment.

Though when it comes to bikes, despite not having done any scientific testing, I'm fairly certain I'm faster on the big wheels.


 
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On the subject of crossers, would you go 2 or 4 stroke

At least if you owned a two stroke you could keep it for spare parts. Eg wheels, forks, brakes etc when you invariably bend your chassis and destroy your engine racing.

Would you really do that? Could you not try and have fun on a big wheeler? I've never ridden one but i think if I did, i could have fun on it.

Okay, spend AT LEAST 3k to get a 29 bike to the current spec of my
Mega, then spend another grand on a 29er hardtail. Mountain biking is expensive but the nice thing was that before you could upgrade part by part.

Based on that I'm already 4/7ths of the way to buying a KTM 6 days 450. Might as well go the last 3 grand.


 
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I've just gone 24' because of the weather and it's the only SS we have in the house. Good fun but a bit panicky in the woods. The MX5 idea above. Enjoyable fun but cant rationally recommend it.
I also enjoy the looks from the 'serious' mountain bikers we have in the SE.


 
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Based on that I'm already 4/7ths of the way to buying a KTM 6 days 450.

I've no idea what this bloke's on about.


 
Posted : 23/03/2013 6:26 am
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Not further up north on the shore though. They're popular in parts of the States that involve riding up and down fireroads.

Wrong. Way more people are buying 29" in BC than 26".


 
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4/7ths, is that a tool for something?


 
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I definitely don't think 29ers will be the all that is on offer in the future:

* They don't suit smaller riders

* They don't suit long travel applications especially when that rider is less than 6 foot tall.

* They're still losing XC events to 26 and 650b.

They'll have to keep lots of 26 frames available for youngsters, short people, women and long travel applications. Privateers will also want 26 inch frames so whoever still makes them will make a small fortune.

This will increase the costs of production of frames, wheels and forks and will see to it that we pay even more for MTB's.

Why don't they work with small riders? A friend of mine is 5'5" and he's okay on the 29". He just runs a flat instead of 20mm rise bar and he gets the same position. Obviously he's way quicker on he 29".

They're loosing a few World Cup XC races but look at the lower levels, everyone is on a 29". Nino won't ride 29" because Scott are pushing 650b. Marco and Jaro etc do quite well on 29".

26" is gone. All DH bikes will be 650b in a year or so. All the proto's doing the rounds are all 650b. The 29" to 650b cross over will be 160mm. It'll be interesting to see how Curtis does on the 29" Enduro. People who have ridden it say its total monster.


 
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Why don't they work with small riders? A friend of mine is 5'5" and he's okay on the 29". He just runs a flat instead of 20mm rise bar and he gets the same position. Obviously he's way quicker on he 29".

A friend is 5' she can't ride a 29" she races and beats a hell of a lot of guys on most kind of bikes.

The idea that something will die off/killed off due to Spec/Giant not bothering is rubbish. The number of smaller bike companies that are still making 26 quite happily is great. Maybe the bigger companies will loose out on some sales?
Also all this talk of this for x that for y is crap too. If you want rules get a road bike. Ride what is comfortable and enjoy it.


 
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As the only 29er rider in the 7/8 folk I ride with around the Lakes, I don't understand the fuss. The 29er isn't as good once the speed drops i.e. steep climbing. Most bikes in shops here are 26.
We're all still friends and no mouth frothing.


 
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A friend is 5' she can't ride a 29" she races and beats a hell of a lot of guys on most kind of bikes.

Willow Koerber is 5'2" and she does okay. I bet she could ride a Specialized Fate. The thing is with the 29" is that even if it feels odd in the carpark test once you ride it on trails worrying about position goes out the window.


 
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The 29er isn't as good once the speed drops i.e. steep climbing.
exsqueeze me? I may politely suggest that's the rider not the wheels. In my experience of riding with a mix of riders/bikes/skills all over the world, 29ers can clean steep loose and technical climbs quicker and even clean stuff that 26 can't. 😕


 
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Willow Koerber is 5'2" and she does okay. I bet she could ride a Specialized Fate. The thing is with the 29" is that even if it feels odd in the carpark test once you ride it on trails worrying about position goes out the window.

Please post the money over 🙂 PP Gift is fine.....

Rocky Mtn would be a little p*ssed if she was riding a specialized and she has tried a few. Like I say it's not denting her performance really...


 
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I don't understand why mountain bikers won't accept 29 as the new standard, it just works, end of story.

If you've not ridden both then you can't appreciate the benefits of a 29er.

Anthem 29, best bike I've ever ridden.


 
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29ers can clean steep loose and technical climbs quicker and even clean stuff that 26 can't.

Ride harder.

26" is gone. All DH bikes will be 650b in a year or so. All the proto's doing the rounds are all 650b. The 29" to 650b cross over will be 160mm. It'll be interesting to see how Curtis does on the 29" Enduro. People who have ridden it say its total monster.

650B is just pure marketing to sell more frames, forks and wheels. No timed run decreases wider rims and lower pressures could have got you. Enjoy spending another 3/4 thousand pounds on setups that you can't swap major parts over, I could deal with 1.5/tapered headsets but this really is taking MTBing away from it's roots. When I was visiting the DH race scene to watch my younger brother race and to ride with him, a good competitive bike would set a privateer back maybe 2.5 grand? All those parts could be swapped over from 1 season to the next - now a competitive bike costs 4 grand at the bottom range all the way up to 8000. The sports becoming ridiculous, it was the poor mans MX/Enduro before. HAH!

Honest to god, I would love to see British Cycling ban them like the Germans have done for nationals (I think).

Anthem 29, best bike I've ever ridden.

The one I rode was horribly flexy, but yeah....big wheels make people feel safer so I guess it might work for you.

Here's Brendog on the matter of 650b.

I don’t even notice the difference, apart from it rolls a bit better maybe.

And on that bombshell, I conclude my feelings on this matter.


 
Posted : 23/03/2013 7:57 am
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You're right tazzy - what would I know about how my 26 and 29 bikes ride, with me aboard.
Harder to keep big wheel moving at slow speeds and steering is slower. Going a bitter faster, I agree - which is why I ride one.


 
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The one I rode was horribly flexy, but yeah....big wheels make people feel safer so I guess it might work for you.

I bow down to your (obviously) superior skills...


 
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Happily on 26" for the moment although did give a 29'r a go recently and quite enjoyed it - nothing too special but a little different. what I am getting sick of however is going into bikeshops to look for bits and being assailed by the shopfloor staff who want to evangelise about bigger wheels and persuade me that rather than buying that 26 inch mud tyre I should buy a whole new bike which will magically roll faster, float over rocks and wipe itself clean at the end of the ride.*

29'r marketing is probably the most overhyped nonsense in a field pretty full of overhyped nonsense, it makes the claimed year on year increases in 'lateral stiffness' and 'small bump compliance' seem reasonable.

Do quite fancy an inbred 29" in teal however 🙂

* Not all bike shops of course - just some recent annoying experiences


 
Posted : 23/03/2013 8:19 am
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+1 MrSynthpop

the more they push 29er the more it will backfire

this is a really stupid thread based on guess what a specialised employee talking up 29ers - well no sh1t!


 
Posted : 23/03/2013 8:27 am
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singlespeed shep - that record wouldn't play in the first place......


 
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bwaarp said:

 a good competitive bike would set a privateer back maybe 2.5 grand? All those parts could be swapped over from 1 season to the next - now a competitive bike costs 4 grand at the bottom range all the way up to 8000

Hate to piss on your chips, but;
-Kona Operator £2400
-Specialized Status £2500
-Nukeproof Scalp £2200
-Scott Gambler £2600
-Norco Aurum £2100
-GT Fury £2300
-Canyon Torque £1700

Competitive enough for most 'privateers' i would reckon


 
Posted : 23/03/2013 8:56 am
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Personally, I'm waiting for 'on the fly' adjustment before I change from 26"
😀


 
Posted : 23/03/2013 9:10 am
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CALM DOWN DEARS ITS ONLY BIKES 😀


 
Posted : 23/03/2013 9:37 am
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Based on that I'm already 4/7ths of the way to buying a KTM 6 days 450.

Do you plan on riding the ISDE then? 😆

Or is it for the image of thinking you're a sixdays rider. 😉


 
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There should be a ban on 26" riders starting these threads.

GET OVER IT.


 
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Happily on 26" for the moment although did give a 29'r a go recently and quite enjoyed it - nothing too special but a little different. what I am getting sick of however is going into bikeshops to look for bits and being assailed by the shopfloor staff who want to evangelise about bigger wheels and persuade me that rather than buying that 26 inch mud tyre I should buy a whole new bike which will magically roll faster, float over rocks and wipe itself clean at the end of the ride.*
29'r marketing is probably the most overhyped nonsense in a field pretty full of overhyped nonsense, it makes the claimed year on year increases in 'lateral stiffness' and 'small bump compliance' seem reasonable.
Do quite fancy an inbred 29" in teal however
* Not all bike shops of course - just some recent annoying experiences
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+1 MrSynthpop
the more they push 29er the more it will backfire
this is a really stupid thread based on guess what a specialised employee talking up 29ers - well no sh1t!
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singlespeed shep - that record wouldn't play in the first place......
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+3


 
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Trotted this out on another thread, but it's more relevant here. Great music and, well, isn't this sort of thing exactly what Singleteack Magazine is all about?


 
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Hmm, at 5ft 5 and with a 27 inch inside leg I have problems with 26ers. It all soudns great but I just cannot see them fitting me. In fact I asked Cy about this on the 29er video thread and he told me to stick with my BFe.
I guess my only worry is lack of tyres/rims to keep me in 26ers..


 
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Was that before or after he had an epiphany and decided that a small sized Solaris was a worthwhile proposition?


 
Posted : 23/03/2013 10:19 am
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I think we can assume that XC races are not won or lost on wheel size

It use to be that XC racers road FS bikes as that was what the sponsor were selling. I assume that at the moment riders wheel size is mainly chosen by the marketing team.

Races are probably won on skill and fitness?

I'm looking forward to the 29er backlash threads

We use to get

"Just bought my first FS bike I love the way it rolls over things, haven't touched my hard tail in weeks"

then we got

"Just bought a hard tail and haven't touched my FS since. I like the extra challenge and the way it doesn't roll over things"

now we have

"Just bought a 29er I love the way it roles over things, haven't touched my 26er for weeks"

soon we'll have

"Just bought a new 26er. I love the way challenge and the way it doesn't role over things. Haven't touched my 29er in weeks"

conclusion

we are all bored


 
Posted : 23/03/2013 10:22 am
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Bored of this discussion? (yes) or

conclusion

we are all bored

as in, people like change and product often gets in the way of just enjoying riding because we think product is more important than it really is

? : )


 
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Edit: I just can't be bothered - this topic has had it's day.

I can't wait to see what the new 26 v 29 topic will be.


 
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It's funny how our perspectives change. When 29ers came out, they just looked wrong. But now that they're becoming more common, I've got used to the look, and 26" wheels are starting to look like kiddies wheels.


 
Posted : 23/03/2013 11:30 am
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