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Why don't we test the sticker and how people perceive it, if we change the target from cyclists to another group of people who often feel aggression - although on a vastly different scale.
We could replace the cyclists with people who are black, or put rainbows so he can say how many LGBTQ+ people he runs over, or Jews - I believe there is already a precedent with yellow stars...
Seems pretty clear to me...
If I saw a member of my team with that or similar on their private car let alone a company one I'd be having a strong word about its removal especially anyone with a recognisable car. It's just plain inappropriate and unprofessional.
Firmly of the view it wants reporting to the fleet manager to make sure it's removed and a reminder issued about appropriate attitude/ behaviour to other road users.
Part of that job is driving a commercial vehicle it's not unreasonable to expect that it's not treated as a joke or the vehicle marked unofficially in a way that offends some of your customers.
I'm also with whoever above said we need to really focus on persistent enforcement of the little stuff because it's the not getting away with it every single day that will get the message across that you can't behave like an entitled **** with impunity.
Extra stickers on a car/van is Arkship Fleet B stuff anyway. I knew a bloke who had stickers of bullet holes along the side of his hand painted (camo) Marina...He was exactly how you'd imagine.
Ok - a discrete email has been sent to the guy suggesting that he should get rid of the sticker before it gets reported properly. I walk past the van fairly frequently so if it doesn't go in a month or so, i'll report more formally.
Why don’t we test the sticker and how people perceive it, if we change the target from cyclists to another group of people who often feel aggression – although on a vastly different scale.
We could replace the cyclists with people who are black, or put rainbows so he can say how many LGBTQ+ people he runs over, or Jews – I believe there is already a precedent with yellow stars…
I think ... you can make jokes about anything that affects or happens to any of us. Fate, situations etc. Cycling would be included in that. Almost anyone can ride a bike or be in that "don't you hate it when.." situation. You might be able to include someone who's excluded from that thing if the joke makes their exclusion into a positive there. Whether the outcome is funny or not is another matter. But making jokes about someone's culture or race is crossing a line, perhaps unless you belong to that culture and joke from within it. Because we don't choose most of those things, we simply are (false equivalence to say that choice of activity, transport etc is at the same level culturally or in sense of self).
So I don't think the humour in these stickers is crossing a line. It's just lame, that's all. Turn it into what you're suggesting and it would 100% cross the line though. (edit to clarify, I believe that's the point you're making, but I have read the equivalence argument so many times on here, road.cc etc)
Ok – a discrete email has been sent to the guy suggesting that he should get rid of the sticker before it gets reported properly. I walk past the van fairly frequently so if it doesn’t go in a month or so, i’ll report more formally.
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Why don’t we test the sticker and how people perceive it, if we change the target from cyclists to another group of people who often feel aggression – although on a vastly different scale.
I agree with jameso that it's not a direct equivalent, and I wouldn't claim it was.
I did play a game on a Teams call once where I described the abuse I regularly got from passing motorists, how I'd had things thrown at me from vehicles, how a driver had got out his car to assault me, and then asked the audience why they thought I'd got that abuse.
They worked through race, sexuality, gender etc before someone who knew me in real life finally twigged it was because I was riding a bike.
Possibly why I felt so strongly about the stickers