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Yikes, I've read reviews of real RS1 that say the fore-aft stiffness is great but the torsional stiffness can be a little twangy. I hate to think how a Chinese copy (can't really call it anything other than that) is going to handle. I also have a bad feeling its gonna use the most basic damping available and gonna be a bit bouncy. Could be quite fun to ride...
I also love the slogan of the company... "Casual riding" 😯
For anyone brave enough to try one out - for the lovely sum for £244 you can find them Here 😕
The last picture on the web page is listed as a Raceworks fork but appears to be a Rockshox.
I'm also intrigued as to what "predictive steering" is.
Love the SRAM taped boxes in the later photos!
Predictive Steering is RockShox jargon, think it was a similar thing to the torque cap setup they use now, was a specific hub design for the fork
Predictive steering has been available on fatbikes for years 😉
Predictive Steering is RockShox jargon, think it was a similar thing to the torque cap setup they use now,
Cheers, I've found the SRAM blurb now; it appears to have nothing to do with predicting your steering.
Haha, I'd missed that bottom picture and the SRAM boxes
Those fox 32 are a bargain....
I prefer the knock-off Fox 32s for £60 🤣
Fork 32s
Straight steerer option! I wonder if you can actually get a 27.5 frame with a straight steerer tube... 😀
Those "Fork 32s" are incredible!
Those Fork 32's actually appear to have a manitou damper in them?
I'm going to buy something today. Can't decide what! Would've been a pairs [sic] of XT BRAKES for $42.90, if they hadn't said XT in the pic and SLX in the description... I have slight suspicion they aren't either.. call me telepathic 😆
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[url= https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33007843889.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.100009.4.39906a96voolLm&gps-id=pcDetailLeftTopSell&scm=1007.13482.95643.0&scm_id=1007.13482.95643.0&scm-url=1007.13482.95643.0&pvid=2fc4b9c9-739c-42a7-a26f-c44fa3dfb711 ]link[/url]
Some awesome discounts on offer too:
"Get US $1 off when you spend over US $100 in this store. (Incl. shipping costs)" 😀
Those “Fork 32s” are incredible!
And what looks like QR 15mm. Am I correct in thinking this. Is this a thing?
What's ABS+?
Those brakes could be a good buy. They would be hard pushed to make less reliable calipers than Shimano do 😁.
In fairness I've used a set of those (or very similar) Chinese shimano clone brakes and they weren't bad - definitely better than a set of £35 brakes from ebay.
Weren't on my bike so no long term feedback but guy in my local club who fitted them as part of his Chinese copy bike with pretty much all parts from knock off brands on aliexpress, 9.8kg carbon hard-tail that rode bloody nicely for less than £1k
thanks for link. Good to see 26 inch straight steerer Manitou forks for sale. I guess they are not copies.
guy in my local club who fitted them as part of his Chinese copy bike with pretty much all parts from knock off brands on aliexpress
I see a challenge. Build the cheapest bike possible on Aliexpress 😆
This pic made me laugh
That shimano calliper appears to have half of an avid tri-align washer stack on top of it?
What’s ABS+?
Manitou Absolute+ damper, obviously those aren't manitou forks but the dial looks identical.
I wonder where the market for this stuff is? Surely there must be some development costs even if it's just tooling. Someone somewhere must be buying them to make it worth their while.
£60 for a "fork 32" is cheap, but it's not OEM BSO cheap is it?
thanks for link. Good to see 26 inch straight steerer Manitou forks for sale. I guess they are not copies.
There are loads of good brand new straight steer forks for sale from suntour.
People seem to think the only forks on the market are rockshox and fox.. Because that's all wiggle/chain reaction stock
That shimano calliper appears to have half of an avid tri-align washer stack on top of it?
The same alignment washers are shipped with every Shimano adapter.
That shimano calliper appears to have half of an avid tri-align washer stack on top of it?
It's a good idea to put them on the top of any caliper as it removes any problems caused by the threaded hole in the frame or mount not being perfectly perpendicular to the caliper mount face.
My mate has a Chinese gf. He's been over a few times, and last time went out on a bike ride with a relative and his mates. They didn't speak any English, he doesn't speak Chinese so it must've been a bit comedy. Anyway they were all on gnar enduro max style carbon MTB copies with loads of knock-off bling, for a casual road pootle. So I'm guessing there's more of a market over there.
That shimano calliper appears to have half of an avid tri-align washer stack on top of it?
I don't think you'll find that's a Shimano caliper. I mean it doesn't say XT on it. And the caption says Racework, what I believe is the brand they is selling 😆
Crap, sorry about the big Linky. Dunno how to contract them.
That shimano calliper appears to have half of an avid tri-align washer stack on top of it?
My 180mm rotor Shimano adapters came with these (from Wiggle).
That's a good idea someone mentioned.... to try and build up (if only on paper) a bike that is composed almost completely of Chinese knock of stuff.
Worth a thread on that guys??
To be honest I don't know how they managed to so blatant and get away with it (although I believe that copyright/patent infringement is big in China); the store is even call the Shimano Store.
They're also offering a [url= https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33023444290.html?spm=2114.12010615.8148356.5.25bf211bvk6RDo ]knockoff Mondraker Podium[/url] carbon frame that even references Mondraker in the blurb:-
The all-new carbon XC race hardtail drops frame weight down to a claimed 1200g with what Mondraker calls a Stealth Air carbon layup.
Because you can't really sue them. China really does not care about the concept of IP (unless it is theirs) and, if you sue, the company just goes away and reappears with a different name a short while later. You end up paying for no gain. It's whack-a-mole and you cannot do that, even as a big company.
It’s a good idea to put them on the top of any caliper as it removes any problems caused by the threaded hole in the frame or mount not being perfectly perpendicular to the caliper mount face.
They are required (and supplied) in the case of this type of adaptor, because the caliper is no longer parallel with the mount.
to try and build up (if only on paper) a bike that is composed almost completely of Chinese knock of stuff.
I've found my frame. Don't care about the price. It's proper
They are required (and supplied) in the case of this type of adaptor, because the caliper is no longer parallel with the mount
I really think you fellas are completely missing the point of that stupid pic, going on about the bleedin spacers!
So I've just had a quick play with the sicklines weights sheet building a Chinese hard tail with Chinese knockoff parts where possible from aliexpress only (some stuff just Chinese brands that aren't obvious knockoffs) and got to about £950 including everything you will need (cables etc.) and about 9.3kg if you believe claimed weights! 1*11 gears, carbon wheels, seatpost, saddle and bars(integrated stem for fun)!
I bet you'd be stung on import for a few bits but likely only frame/wheels/groupset/forks and maybe bars which will ad a £100-£300 but still surprisingly cheap!
Would be interesting to see how this compares the the fully British bike being talked about a few weeks ago! I reckon you can knock another 0.5-1kg off this by buying more premium parts as I've just gone for the top ordered or near that!
They’re also offering a knockoff Mondraker Podium carbon frame that even references Mondraker in the blurb:-
Not sure I trust a Tory never mind a "Carbon Tory"
I'm glad this thread came up, I was looking for new forks the missus' bike and found these:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BOLANY-Air-Suspension-Fork-MTB-Mountain-Bike-26-27-5-29-100mm-1-1-8Threadless/192960958173?var=493155516571
I'm kinda curious to see if they actually work! I'm looking to replace a 2006 Marzocchi MX Comp ETA so the bar is pretty low...
If the weights are correct it could be nice and light, unlike these!:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BOLANY-26-27-5-29-Suspension-Fork-1-1-8-Threadless-Mountain-Bike-Forks-9mm-QR/273949411055?var=573875667799
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there are real Manitou forks there too. they will be better.
These appear to be the same as the ones you linked V8 but a fair bit cheaper and into the "take a punt" price range - got a couple of favourable reviews too Linky
Is it just me that finds the idea of a sunpeed frame funny?
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These appear to be the same as the ones you linked V8 but a fair bit cheaper and into the “take a punt” price range – got a couple of favourable reviews too Linky
Maybe it's unfair to assume $50 forks will be of sub-par build quality but let's just say any savings will quickly be wiped out by dental fees if for example the crown were to detach from the steerer.
Heee 🙂
Maybe it’s unfair to assume $50 forks will be of sub-par build quality but let’s just say any savings will quickly be wiped out by dental fees if for example the crown were to detach from the steerer.
I never claimed they'd be quality or any good, I was just pointing out the they were the same as the ones he'd linked but for 1/2 the price!
I’ve found my frame. Don’t care about the price. It’s proper
Nope, can’t see anything
So this really deserves it's own thread but wow, some reviews of carbon cranks are brilliant!
Look that that flex...
And then some lovely debonding after 22km...
ropey. I think I would buy a chinese frame though if it got good reviews. maybe not from here though.
Is it just me that finds the idea of a sunpeed frame funny?
Nope 🙂
So, has anyone actually bought/used any of those chinese forks? Given the lack of 26" straight steered forks on the market, it looks like chinese is the only option to keep some bikes operational should the forks fail.. Like both of my mountain bikes...
And no, I'm not about to replace a perfectly servicable 2006 bike because one element of it has finally given up the ghost! Plus I can't afford to replace it!
Loads of 26" forks with straight steerers here? https://www.bike-discount.de/en/shop/26-suspension-fork-80-110mm-820?l=24&o=preis
hmm.
what could go wrong with these?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mtb-GXP-Bicycle-crank-set-mountain-bike-crankset-axis/132923740553
Not carbon, kinda I beam like. only thing that worries me is the 24mm aluminium axle, and I know the BB will be dead in a month.
what could go wrong with these?
A genuine SRAM GXP bottom bracket would still probably fail first.
Dance with China, Dance with the Devil.
This stuff is a real problem for manufacturers and consumers. To the unwitting consumer, they are buying the “real” thing at a discount. To manufacturers, Chinese knock offs can damage their brands (when things fail) or worse still get blended into legitimate supply chains thus creating liability issues that need to be worked through with costly lawyers and IP investigation teams.
Personally I’d be happy if we didn’t trade with China until they started playing by the same rules as everyone else. The planet would probably benefit from that as well.
I bought a set of eBay '34s' to make a tare down video of. Not had the chance to film it yet but even just unboxing you can see the lowers are full of voids/imperfections. That brake post 😭 I wonder what you would see if you scanned them! Anyone want to make a bet to what kind of damper is in there?
Tear, as in rip, not tare, related to mass dude. 👍
Wouldn't be surprised if the internals are like old manitous. The eBay forks either used the abs+ damper, or the sr suntour internals.
My guess is that manitou and suntour use readily available parts.
How well they slide though, that'll be interesting based on those moulding flaws.
[quote=lovewookie]hmm.
what could go wrong with these?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mtb-GXP-Bicycle-crank-set-mountain-bike-crankset-axis/132923740553
Not carbon, kinda I beam like. only thing that worries me is the 24mm aluminium axle, and I know the BB will be dead in a month.
Actually, these cranks are one of the few decent chinese items. It doesn't have a GXP spindle, but a HTII one. It uses the GXP interface on the chainrings, though. Even the BB that comes with the cranks is reliable.
Anyone want to make a bet to what kind of damper is in there?
I'm going to go with a proper lump of elastomer, or actual elastic bands.
Failing that some discontinued rs stuff, like say the xc28, that was truly horrid, that the factory owned all the tooling for.
I bought a set of eBay ’34s’ to make a tare down video of. Not had the chance to film it yet
That sounds like a good idea. Please share a link when you get round to it.
Don't bother tearing them down, we all want to see you fit them to a bike and send it big, be sure and video the action though.
...and the x-rays / joint relocation.
Much better at the spanners than the spelling, thankfully 🤣
If they're anything like Chinese air rifles (and the blatant IP infringements would suggest so) there will be a few cheap examples that will work well after some refinishing. They will be utter crap until factories get the techniques right but once they do they will be worth looking at.