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Taken on on yesterdays club ride (I wasn't on it)
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It will be interesting to see if the police do anything
class act
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Prosecute
The Driver is a certain individual - but why not cycle on the cycle path? Surely safer?
but why not cycle on the cycle path? Surely safer?
Most cyclists prefer to antagonise motorists by cycling on the road; usually in the middle of the lane.
why not cycle on the cycle path? Surely safer?
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Let me just go and check the biscuit stocks. I think there are still some Chocolate Olivers, and I think this situation deserves them.
Was that a fast show sketch ?
The Driver is a certain individual - but why not cycle on the cycle path? Surely safer?
Safer from what? Drivers in cars acting like cocks? The video proves otherwise.
Also there is only one law being broken and that's by the motorist.
Sometimes I ride on tyres that cost more than car tyres. Why would I want to ride over bits of glass?
Oh, and have the right to ride on the road, rather than only do it by license?
Ignore the troll.
Got a point, why not ride on the cycle path.
Got a point, why not ride on the cycle path.
There's not enough space on them to ride two/three abreast.
Too cool for cycle paths this lot.
Got a point, why not ride on the cycle path.
Cycle lane Bingo cards at the ready:
Covered in dog shit
Joggers with earphones
Broken glass
Unswept leaves and gravel
Give way to cars coming out of every minor side road
Give way to cars behind you that you can't see when they turn into junctions
They disappear at junctions just where you could do with then, meaning you have to re enter the traffic (dangerous in itself) then do the dangerous bit of road
They don't always (often, ever) go where you want to go.
Lamp posts and traffic signs mid lane
White lines are slippery (round of applause for the person who decided painted on bike lanes covered in lines/symbols were a good plan)
There's even one near me that ends in the central reservation of a DC, with 4 lanes of traffic to cross on one side (2 on the other, but the 'cyclepath' doesn't go that way) and the traffic lights are broken.
Why did the rider with the camera suddenly speed up and pull away from the following riders? That doesn't seem very sociable.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/row-over-holmston-road-cycle-8703041
Currently causing consternation to the good people of Ayr, the local rag sat in the fence for a while, but is now fully against it. Colossal bellendery.
Shared path? If it is then 30kmh limit for cyclists is advised. Most weekend cycle rides by clubs will average 30kmh so the road is the place for them.
Most weekend cycle rides by clubs will average 30kmh so the road is the place for them.
As this was the "social" ride I'd hope the average would be a bit lower!
But anyone who thinks a cycle path is the best place for a roadie club ride really isn't worth arguing with.
I know it's obvious but I ride my track bike on the track, my mountain bike on mountains and my road bike on errrr roads. I don't have a cycle path bike. Of course the trike is too wide anyway and I'm too fast on my road bike 8) . Interesting footage looked like it was from a Fly6.
The only cycle paths I bother with on my commute are on the homeward route, as I approach Northam Bridge's shared path from Summers Street, go across the bridge and then into Quayside Road, to take the short path that links up to Athelstan Road (enabling me to ascend the much nicer and quieter Chessel Avenue, rather than have loads of cars pass me exceeding the 30mph limit while I'm slogging away at <10mph on Lances Hill).
On the way in, it is a race against my starting time at work, so sticking to the road makes sense... Although it is far better not to do this literally after headbutting a large vehicle with jagged crushing teeth at ~20mph. 😉
Not a troll-what a standard boring reply to someone who raises a point/question you don't like! I do not do group/club rides so have no experience or education on this. Just personal experience. If a cycle path is available I always use it and not experiencing club rides ever did not understand or appreciate why you would not use the dedicated path. Also the cycle paths in my area are excellent - it is the roads with potholes, raised and dropped drains, broken glass etc that are the problem.
"why not cycle on the path" is hopefully a troll, but some context: as thats from the Ely CC that looks a lot like the shared use path from Witchford to Sutton. If it is, that section is wide and flat as it was only made two years ago (and relaid last year after it started cracking) but in about 30 seconds the rider will be crossing several house drivers, a garage, and two side junctions, then the path narrows to approximately 18 inches wide with cracks in that will easily eat a narrow road tyre. Oh and it's shared use so beware other walkers/riders/joggers.
a lot of drivers could also be on a train or bus (or, shudder to think, a bicycle) but generally don't like this being pointed out.
I'll use a path if it's suitable but completing a 5.5h training ride solely on paths would be an interesting challenge...
[i]"why not cycle on the path" is hopefully a troll[/i]
If it's not a troll it's someone pretty thick. Or maybe they just ain't a cyclist.
Oh lordy, not this road v cycle path debate again. Done to death a couple of weeks ago...
http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/banning-cycling-on-a24-dorking-to-leatherhead
Good cycle paths are great for people who are not going fast or trying to train. They are terrible and rather dangerous for anyone wanting to get some training done. They are optional - there for those who wish to use them.
End of debate.
End of debate.
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DezB
why not cycle on the path" is hopefully a troll
If it's not a troll it's someone pretty thick. Or maybe they just ain't a cyclist
How rude - my apologies for asking a question.
How rude - my apologies for asking a question.
I think the problem here is that people who ride in groups or even solo at speed will understand the unsuitability of cycle paths in most instances (there are one or two notable exceptions). Mountain bikers who don't ride road bikes won't - cycle paths are generally quite suitable for a mountain bike between sections of trail due to the lower speeds (in general).
It does seem a bit of a silly question, but it is one that many normal people don't know the answer(s) to - most thankfully not to the degree of driving like a complete tit.
why not cycle on the cycle path?
This is what the idiot driver was thinking. Because their tiny mind cannor comprehend the issues of cycling in a group and/or at speed on a path shared with pedestrians etc.
If you ride on the road I'll drive on the cycle path
do WTF you want mate. if you think I'm doing something wrong, report me, and I promise I'll do the same for you.
Good cycle paths are great for people who are not going fast or trying to train. They are terrible and rather dangerous for anyone wanting to get some training done
That's a sweeping generalistaion. The cycle path I commute/train/go fast on is great, it's never very busy, it has a couple of very minor roads intersecting it and its well surfaced.
But I agree that if people want to ride on the road then they have every right to.
Oh lordy, not this road v cycle path debate again. Done to death a couple of weeks ago...
It's also completely irrelevant. The cyclists could be riding along starkers, flicking the v's and waving banners saying "all drivers are morons" and that still doesn't make it right (legally or morally) for the driver to go flying down the pavement.
TBH, the pavement looks loads narrower than the road to the right of the cyclists, it would have been easier to overtake normally rather than like a lunatic/simpleton.
There are arguments either way, having cycled a lot on cycle paths and for the simple reason that I found them more dangerous than the road, even with one driver cutting me up on purpose.
It is what it is, cycle lanes on the road are better but then doesn't stop the traffic being in them. As long as your not cycling on a normal path, but then sometimes the mixed paths often change mid way etc...
No, I don't accept that there are any valid arguments that cyclists should not generally be allowed to ride on the road when they prefer (with some very limited exceptions such as motorways). What arguments did you have in mind?
Is there a working link for the video?
Maybe the driver in the video was just trying a bit of a "cheeky" route.
Ah cyclists, they want everyone else to change their behavior to suit themselves but blow up in a hissy fit when someone suggest they make some changes also.
Slow down, fit wider tyres and don't ride in large groups then. You should be grateful some of our road tax is used to build you cycle paths in the first place. Pretty ignorant for you to not use them and continue clogging up the roads for everyone else.
Ignorant cyclists clogging the roads?
Road tax? Since when have you paid road tax? Unless you were driving before 1937 that might be never..
Difficult concepts for some tiny minds to understand taxation, what causes traffic congestion and pollution. Back to troll land km79
Shocked to see that km79 hasn't signed up to post that. Impressive bellendry from an existing member. Surely not serious?
bellendery
I shall make it my task to use that word in conversation by the end of the week
Use it wisely good sir.
[quote=njee20 ]Shocked to see that km79 hasn't signed up to post that. Impressive bellendry from an existing member. Surely not serious?
I'm assuming impressive trollage, but Poe's Law strikes again.
If you ride on the road I'll drive on the cycle path
Plenty of drivers already do don't they? Half full of parked cars and drivers edging round each other at junctions.
I was bumped by a car last year, strangely enough I was actually using the cycle Lane (well, painted line in the gutter) at the time He just didn't fancy using his wing mirror it seems, nobody was hurt fortunately...
To me such occurrences simply illustrate that many bits of our 'bolt on' cycling infrastructure aren't really much use and don't magically prevent incidents...
They actually make things worse IMO, by mostly removing cyclists from drivers sphere of attention and then Dumping them back to merge with motorised traffic at busy junctions and roundabouts, and then there's the danger cyclists using the assigned bits of painted pavement pose to ipodded pedestrians, even at ~10-12 mph you could do some damage... Many ped's simply aren't aware, of or paying attention on shared use sections of pavements...
In the real world (Outside of that there London) you're mostly safer using your bicycle on the road. Impatient drivers will always be impatient, remove cyclists and they'd just start trying to bully someone else.
Before I got the whole road riding club ride thing I used to think it was a bit selfish..
100s of thousands of pounds spent on cycling infrastructure (which is to a very acceptable standard here at least) and yet people [i]still[/i] choose to annoy other road users with their fetishistic eccentricities
Then I met a group ride on the local Sustrans when I was out with the kids and it changed my outlook completely..
They met every stereotype
High as kites on testosterone, well heeled, arrogant and reeking of anger management issues and repressed sexuality, they bludgeoned a path through the elderly Sunday walkers and the couples enjoying the majestic scenery, the toddlers learning to cycle and the old giffers that had plodded to work on their bikes in their workboots every day for over a century..
Love 'em or loathe 'em these people should [i]definitely[/i] not be anywhere near shared paths!! 😯
Ah cyclists, they want everyone else to change their behavior to suit themselves but blow up in a hissy fit when someone suggest they make some changes also.
Slow down, fit wider tyres and don't ride in large groups then. You should be grateful some of our road tax is used to build you cycle paths in the first place. Pretty ignorant for you to not use them and continue clogging up the roads for everyone else.
Knobber.
Knob off to knobsville & take your knobbery with you.
When you get there, keep knobbing off.
High as kites on testosterone, well heeled, arrogant and reeking of anger management issues and repressed sexuality, they bludgeoned a path through the elderly Sunday walkers and the couples enjoying the majestic scenery, the toddlers learning to cycle and the old giffers that had plodded to work on their bikes in their workboots every day for over a century..
😀 Exactly. I don't want them on the road either, riding two/three abreast pretending to "train" - you're not Bradley Wiggins FFS; this doesn't put food on your table.
Get back to the golf course.
It's between Rampton and Cottenham: https://goo.gl/maps/mnpHKcFfYNQ2
I cycle along there pretty often, and on a road bike would not consider trying to move from the (very quiet, wide and straight) road to that hundred metres of shared use path. I wouldn't drive along it either.
Chocolate Olivers? Had to google* that. We don't get them in the work house.
*with no small amount of trepidation
If only they considered/consulted cyclists when making cycle paths.
fun fact: the narrow pavement adjacent to the carriageway which the car used to overtake is not a cycletrack/cyclepath.
[i]that's[/i] proper trollage or weapons grade idiocy. Until km returns we won't know for sure which.Ah cyclists, they want everyone else...blah blah blah
High as kites on testosterone, well heeled, arrogant and reeking of anger management issues and repressed sexuality
Did you stop to ask them?
Or are you just projecting your own issues?.......
Lebowski - stop taking life so seriously duuuude
As it panned out, I was already stopped... desperately trying to protect my bewildered children as the steaming peleton thundered past, snorting and braying and shrieking and bellowing aggressively at one another about investment bonds, sabbaticals and rugger
You should be grateful some of our road tax is used to build you cycle paths in the first place
Me? Why? I never wanted or asked for cycle paths!
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