[Closed] Idieters.........how's the weight loss (1 yr in).

congrats on the improvements!

Good work ton. Amazing in fact. Are your health problems all gone now?

I've not really been idieting but trying to mostly eat low GI and lost about a stone and a few inches off the waist.

Nice one ton

4 and a half stone lost since may, feel brilliant

Sorry to hijack your thread but Im looking to loose weight through cycling, can someone let me know what the idiet actually is?

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[quote=tommy19 ]Sorry to hijack your thread but Im looking to loose weight through cycling, can someone let me know what the idiet actually is?
Just google "low carb diet" you'll get loads of ideas.

Not entirely accurate scotroutes, it's more akin to low GI IMO.

Well done ton,

Good to see you are looking and feeling better mate

tommy19 - Member
Sorry to hijack your thread but Im looking to loose weight through cycling, can someone let me know what the idiet actually is?

I have it in PDF if you want my email is in profile

I found this quite handy, although I must admit its been a while since I really stuck to the diet: -

[url= http://healthandfitness.com/bbs/nutri/messages/2300.html ]Low Carb Food List[/url]

Well done Ton, that's some improvement.

[quote=grum ]Not entirely accurate scotroutes, it's more akin to low GI IMO.
Aye - my point is that there are lots of low carb diet ideas that will help with "weight loss through cycling".

Good work ton, impressive stuff.

Bloody good work! And a real inspiration for me, as I try to shake off three stone through cycling, swimming, and fewer carbs.

Tommy19,

Personally I would avoid a low carb diet if you are a keen cyclist. It would be better to just switch to complex carbs instead of simple and also learn about nutrition. This way you can tailor the right amount of carb, fat and protein for your activity level.

Carbs are needed to fuel nearly every type of activity. The amount of glycogen in your liver and muscles will affect the your exercise performance. So if you are not eating enough carbs, not enough fuel and thus crappy performance.

If you reduce carb intake too much and do intensive exercise (like cycling) you risk not having enough energy to from glycogen, thus the energy comes from protein making it unavailable for muscle growth.

Ton, well done on your trim down! good work!

The idiet works because you need vitamins, minerals, protein and fat for your body to function. Carbs are basically extra fuel. If you don't do lots of exercise, the other essentials are sufficient fuel. If you train you need more fuel. The idiet provides simple and good rules for upgrading your eating quality and cutting out rubbish 'empty' calories.

If you are not particularly active the it is a great way to lose weight. My mum has got her blood pressure and weight back under control by following the basic rules. If you are training or doing lots of exercise you might need to look at something more complicated - Racing Weight by Matt Fitzgerald is a good book. It is about improving the quality of your diet and eating in line with your training. There are carbs in there but timed to fit with what you need and when.

Well done Ton.

If you are not particularly active the it is a great way to lose weight.

nail on the head Clover
my loss has been done without being overly active.

I started in May 2011 at 12.5 stone, by August I was down to 10st7 through out last year I fluctuated between 10st4 and 10st7 depending on racing, with a bodyfat level between 7-8%...

I find it really easy to maintain this weight. Thing to remember though is this is not a diet, change our style of eating not for a short term but for good. Also its not a low/no carb diet, from day one it was always about only eating the carbs that were needed, as stated oop there, if you dont need them don't eat them, its that easy.

My only proviso from day one though was that I had two days of eating what I want - this wasnt an excuse for 24 hour eating just having a few things I wouldnt eat during the week, currently coconut kitkats and bowls of capuccino...

The hardest part of the whole thing having to buy a whole new wardrobe of clothes as quite literally nothing fitted me, looked like I was wearing someone elses clothes.

bigdawg, buying a whole new wardrobe has been one of my highlights.
being able to buy clothes off the peg has been ace.... 8)

Nice one ton 🙂 I'm not on the "official" iDiet but I've been on keto for just over a month now. Weight-wise it's not much different (doubt I'll get a lot lower than my current 12 stone), but I took topless progress photos and there's noticeable difference after a month! Stomach and sides getting more defined and my moobs are disappearing 🙂

I started it about 2 years ago and lost a great deal of weight. Threw out all my old jeans and bought 34" waist ones, started buying L instead of XL. Now I've crept up a few pounds but still fit the same clothes.

I know that a reduction is always just a gram flour flatbread away!

The biggest revelation to me was how much better I feel without bread. I don't think i'm Coeliac but I certainly have a bloated feeling after it.

It's a great way to eat and it's not low carb or any of those labels. It is (IMO) all to do with avoiding insulin spikes. Insulin is becoming the scourge of the age. It leads to type 2 diabetes, it's why you get mad cravings for sweet and fatty foods and it's why kids get obese.

I know that's a vast oversimplification but that's what I specialise in.

I heard a programme on 5live yesterday about healthy kids lunches including cartons of orange juice, yogurts and kiwi fruit. Bloody Hell! There's more sugar in that than 10 Mars bars! (see previous para)

I've been off the alcohol this last week (antibiotic for abcess) and my tipple is a mix of carrot juice and V8 vegetable juice with a splash of Worcestershire sauce. Brill!

Ummm.........
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I gave the iDave diet a bash, ages ago. I wasn't particularly heavy, around 85Kg for 6' 1". During several months, I dropped down to 78Kg, but more importantly I had a feeling of much improved general health.
I just felt better. In addition to this, a small patch of eczema, which the Doc told me would only ever persist or get worse, actually cleared up.
(I suspect the eczema was a diary / wheat intolerance)

Since then I've done a fair amount of reading, [i]debating[/i] and general homework on all this diet stuff and now follow a kind of iDave diet, primal pattern. Nothing too restrictive and I still get my chocolate and red wine in too.
Infact, on the odd occasion I'll still pretty much [b]eat and drink anything I want to[/b]*. But the poor stuff doesn't become part of the day to day food choice. A lot of it, for me, was about establishing a sustainable pattern and list of food choices.

So, these days, I am leaner, I have increased muscle mass. I experience a greater feeling of overall good health. While enjoying the foods I eat.
I don't count calories, but I'm mindful of them.

Becoming aware of the insulin response, what carbs can do for you and that the provenance of your calories may be of some importance. Has meant that things have worked out pretty well for me, so far.

I'd also point out that its not just about the scales or the waistline.
Look at the OP's story, note that the B/P and cholesterol levels have improved. I'd imagine that these are better markers for indicating improved health.

Good stuff Ton !.
😉

*: emphasis on the word [i]want[/i]

I've lost a stone and a bit on the iIHN diet:

1) No booze in the week
2) No eating between meals
3) Breakfast (muesli) when I get to work
4) An hour's bike ride Tues/Thurs before work, no food until lunchtime
5) Eat/drink what I want at weekends

The key is it's completely and easily maintainable

I've been doing the Tim Ferris 4 hour body diet (which I believe is linked to the idiet in some way) on and off since the end of August. Probably lost about half a stone between August and December, when combined with very little exercise other than riding once a week.

From 1st Jan, I then started going to 1 class per day at the gym (e.g. spin, circuits, body pump, etc) 3 or 4 days per week and started keeping records of my weight and %age body fat.

01.01.13:
12st 1lb
24% body fat

03.03.13
10st 12lbs 8oz
19.3% body fat

I don't really want to lose any more weight now, just get my body fat down to between 15%-18%.

Should add, that I do 2 cheat days (Sat & Sun) and don't hold back. Not experienced any lack of energy issues either. I actually feel like I have more energy now I'm less lardy.

I'm doing a half-arsed version of it. Cut out carbs and replaced with protein, beans etc where it is convenient. Eat wholemeal carbs where it's not.
Still eat toast in the morning and occasionally small amount of potato with an evening meal. I could never stick the eggs/salmon/meat breakfast with the full-fat ( 🙂 ) iDiet.

One thing I've noticed is that fizzy drinks, sweets and chocolate taste ridiculously sweet now. I fancied a Yorkie on an off day, ate two squares and chucked it away.

Think I've lost about 6kg so far since the start of Jan.

Go Ton!

Bump for the love !.

solo, i am sat eating a big fish, with a portion of mushy peas.
you made me smile... 😆

[i]i am sat eating a big fish, with a portion of mushy peas[/i]

Showing off now in an, iDave dieter eats splendidly well, shocker !.
😀

I'm enjoying the reports btw Ton. It's nice to hear how things can get better over the long term and stay that way. There are always reports about diets not working and weight going back on but I worry that they're very defeatist and put people who need to change what they're eating off.

[i]There are always reports about diets not working[/i]

Thats partly because some folk believe a diet is some sort of temporary eating regime. Not me though, its a permanent change here.

[i]I worry that they're very defeatist and put people who need to change what they're eating off[/i]

Perhaps, but theres a decent core of forum members here now who have demonstrated that its possible to stick to the changes in their lifestyle / diet, mostly because this stuff is sustainable.

Who wouldn't want to tuck into fish and mushy peas for lunch ?.
8)

Don't worry Solo… I'm in (in principle… I don't actually need to lose weight & need some carbs for my cycling commute/sheep chucking lifestyle) but I point others in this direction with its 'it works' reports and the emphasis on change of eating habits and particularly not eating out of packets.

Clover.

No worries, I've witnessed the same and as you point out, this thread is testament to effectiveness of finding something that cuts out the crap and which one can sustain, indefinitely.
😀

Ultimately I reconciled it along the lines of natural selection.
😉

So how do I start the iDiet - or at least just take a look at it? Is it just a case of searching on this forum and trawling through posts? Can any one set up some simple links?

[i]So how do I start the iDiet[/i]

Try this thread. Check Ron Jeremy's post on the 1st page.

Could someone please email me the iDiet pdf? Interested to have a read to see if it'd be better for me than keto.. I do like my cycling (obviously :p ) and find that I can only really do about 8 miles before feeling really drained. Not sure if this is gonna be counter intuitive to the fat loss or muscle growth?

Solo - Member
So how do I start the iDiet

Try this thread. Check Ron Jeremy's post on the 1st page.

Thank you.

Why does does this diet seem like a secret club?

[i]Why does does this diet seem like a secret club[/i]

Its not a secret club. Take up RJ's offer and he'll mail you the .pdf.

It use to be online as a google doc, and I think it was TrickyDisco who use to post the link.

I've posted out loads of copies over the years.

Or.... you could just use the search engine on this ere forum 😯

fella's i would email you both it, but dont have it now.

one of the best websites to have a look at, if you dont take the american bs in, is
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/#axzz2Mlfax6Kj

it works, plain and simple.

Plus one for MDA. It may not be to everyones [i]taste[/i] (see what I did there) but the under lying strategy is sound.

Fantastic achievement ton! 🙂

What's the latest on your heart condition?

CG, stuck in af for good now. but with the weight loss everything dont seem too bad now.

Not sure if this is gonna be counter intuitive to the fat loss or muscle growth?

Depends. Personally I seem to need a certain amount of carbs to recover, build muscle and get faster. However Solo will tell you it's all in my head, but he's not a physiologist and he doesn't know me in real life either so he's really just guessing 🙂

There is a theory though that as you ride with that drained feeling you're training your body to burn more fat. There is however a possibility that some people are not well able to adapt to that, and some are.

Part of it is that what each of us consider 'cycling' seems to vary!

Yeah, I'll bite.

[i]Part of it is that what each of us consider 'cycling' seems to vary![/i]

Care to expand on that ?.
🙂

Well. I like to do short rides absolutely flat out, others do more day long rides.

[i]Well. I like to do short rides absolutely flat out, others do more day long rides.[/i]

What ?, like getting up in the morning and getting straight into 26mph on the rollers for an hour, before work.

Is that what you mean ?.

I only do short/quick rides as well as I have other stuff to do on my days off 🙂 normally 10 miles as quick as I can.

15 stone 7 nine months ago, 13 3 this morning. Tried the idave stuff for about 3 months, you do get used to feeling hungry!! Off it now but just eating way less than I used to (this is evidenced by there being half a pack of fruit gums sat next to me - they would have been all gone a year ago!).

What ?, like getting up in the morning and getting straight into 26mph on the rollers for an hour, before work.

Is that what you mean ?.

No, for me it's more like sprinting up hills for 30s, that kind of thing. Your post seems to have a defensive tone though, there's no need - I don't consider one style of biking to be better than the other, it's a matter of preference, which was my point.

Long rides are great, but your body does different things than on short sprinty ones.

Morning all PDF sent to all whom have emailed me, also second tons link to marks daily apple, some of the primal blueprint recipes are really good, as said above I still have a copy of the original idiet PDF I was sent so just email me and I'll bounce it over to anyone who wants a copy

RJ - could I have the PDF too please?
Email in profile

Very good spirited of you RJ.
Good stuff !.
😀

Grips.
Dude, you can turn it any way you like.
[i]I like to sprint[/i], [i]I'm a special case[/i], etc, etc.
But seems to me that you're doing all this stuff, yet you appear not to be realizing your stated goal to reduce your BF %.
So then something tells me that if you're sprinting up a hill for 30s but not shifting the lard. Then this isn't working for you wrt to BF% reduction.
How long has it been since you first attempted to moderate the GI load of your diet (iDave diet), while then going onto experimenting with Cheesecake and coke around the time you exercise ?, adding cheese to meals, etc, etc.
Has any of your efforts, exercise or with diet, yielded the results you've been wanting ?.
What did you weigh when you started and what do you weigh now ?.
Most folk here, ref the OP, report sustainable BF reduction along with a weight reduction.
If your actions do not reflect the results and the goals you desire, then is it not time to stop thinking you know what to do and to start reassessing your methods ?.

I've made mistakes along the way. But I identify this and then take remedial action, while acknowledging to myself that feeling all warm and fuzzy, may not be commensurate with achieving my goals.
Sometimes a little temporary discomfort is the price one might have to pay in order to make the changes required.
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cold chicken and butternut squash, with quinoa anyone? 😆

[i]cold chicken and butternut squash, with quinoa anyone?[/i]

So thats an invite to breakfast at your house ?.

Sounds OK, but for a first visit, Ton. I think I'd rather prefer the H/M baked beans, eggs and bacon.
😉

I have a copy of the recipe book for homemade baked beans, I could send over but what I do suggest you do is go visit Jules Clanceys website over at [url= http://thestonesoup.com/blog/about/# ]the stone soup[/url] and download the free free simple things cookbook as it has a whole lot more than the baked beans recipe, also if you subscribe to her blog she will email you various recipes as well, and yes I am just a guy who likes good healthy food (and beer and cake)

[i]I am just a guy who likes good healthy food (and beer and cake[/i]

Me too, so you're in good company.
😀

RJ - thanks

Yep another thanks for the pdf, think I'm gonna give the cyclical keto another month or two then switch to this, mainly because this seems to offer a bit more variety whilst still having the fat loss benefits 🙂

can someone please email me a copy of the diet. for me to forward to a mate.

email in my profile.......thanks 😀

Done, and on its way to you now mate

Any chance of a copy aswell please ??
Email in profile.

17kg down since last year, innit.

Dropped from 13st to 11st, back up to 11.5 as carbs have crept back in over winter

Discovered chill roasted chickpeas the other day, these are going to replace nuts as my idiet snack of choice!

disco stu, nice one, i got some wasabi ones which are awesome.

Wasabi chickpeas? Ton, where did you get them from?

think it was holland and barretts.

easy to make your own i reckon tho.
wasabi powder
oil
chickpeas

slow roasted in the oven.

I uploaded it, here's a link to save all the emailing and asking

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B96Ou3EW50PBOGRrZ3c2RmJacjA/edit?usp=sharing