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Quite a claim!  i wonder what it can be

https://www.trekbikes.com/gb/en_GB/everything-else-is-history/


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 3:38 pm
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Ultra-boost 162 x 12 hubs. Sorry to spoil the surprise.


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 3:51 pm
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26er.


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 3:52 pm
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So last week we had Super-Boost at 157mm x 12mm http://www.bikepacking.com/bikes/2019-salsa-horsethief/ now we may have ultra-boost at 162.

I wonder what will be next? Hmm, let's see ... 170mm. Wait! Hang on! Isn't that like, err, a fat bike?


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 3:57 pm
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Change cycling forever! I call bullllshit 😆
(not just mountain biking... 'cycling')


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 3:59 pm
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Won't be 170 next as that's Fat QR. 170 TA is 177. It'll be 167 MEGA-Boost first.


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 4:11 pm
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Hang on. It says that a change like this comes along once every 30 years. New axle standards are on one every 30 days at the moment.


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 4:14 pm
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And this will mean a return to 83mm BBs or is there a chance to cock that up too?


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 4:16 pm
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exactly scotroutes. i mean the whole sport of mtb was invented 30 years ago wasnt it?


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 4:17 pm
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Unicycle with freewheel.


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 4:27 pm
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Yes! Finally bring back cotter pin cranks!


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 4:32 pm
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eBoost Plus+ MAX

FTW!


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 4:36 pm
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exactly scotroutes. i mean the whole sport of mtb was invented 30 years ago wasnt it?


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 4:49 pm
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exactly scotroutes. i mean the whole sport of mtb was invented 30 years ago wasnt it?

By whom...? 🤭


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 4:54 pm
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What we want is a none exposed drivetrain that functions and doesn't weight a couple of kilos
Likelihood it will be there new e bike


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 5:02 pm
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Nobody else see that massive pile of ironing in the corner?


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 5:22 pm
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So last week we had Super-Boost at 157mm x 12mm

Didn’t Trek Sessions use 157mm rear?


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 5:27 pm
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i wonder what it can be

Clickbait ?


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 5:31 pm
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By whom…? 🤭

I'm sure he'll be along to tell us when he has a new book out....


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 5:47 pm
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They're announcing it [url= https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/?clear=true ]a day earlier[/url] in the States.


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 5:52 pm
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Graphene
Regenerative e-bike


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 6:05 pm
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From there website

The first Trek branded full carbon frame came in 1989

I'm guessing some wizardry new frame material, maybe something with Graphene.

Or some fancy pants handlebars with damping.

https://patents.justia.com/patent/10189530


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 6:13 pm
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My money's on an ebike


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 6:17 pm
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Maybe...

https://patents.justia.com/patent/10189530

A bicycle handlebar assembly that includes a body having at least two grip areas positioned for interaction with the hands of a rider. The grip portions or grip areas are preferably spaced apart by a center portion that secures the assembly to a bicycle steerer tube. A channel or detent is formed in the body proximate at least one, and preferably proximate each grip portion or grip area. A dampener formed of a different material than the body is disposed in the detent and dissipates at least a portion of vibration of the body to reduce vibrations communicated to the hands of the rider from handlebar vibration. An optional grip assembly cooperates with the handlebar assembly and is constructed to further dampen handlebar vibration.


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 6:30 pm
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£1 bet. Its a new frame material. Hasn’t there been some sort of new aluminium alloy invented recently. Or that low cost titanium that was in the news a while ago. Maby carbotanium...


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 6:33 pm
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So suspension grips using elastomer ish stuff instead of a round handle bar?


 
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A bicycle handlebar assembly that includes a body having at least two grip areas positioned for interaction with the hands of a rider. The grip portions or grip areas are preferably spaced apart by a center portion that secures the assembly to a bicycle steerer tube. A channel or detent is formed in the body proximate at least one, and preferably proximate each grip portion or grip area. A dampener formed of a different material than the body is disposed in the detent and dissipates at least a portion of vibration of the body to reduce vibrations communicated to the hands of the rider from handlebar vibration. An optional grip assembly cooperates with the handlebar assembly and is constructed to further dampen handlebar vibration.

Like the new Lauf bars then?


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 6:37 pm
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Id go with new composite tech (like graphene). Its 30 years since they launched their first carbon bike I believe.


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 6:48 pm
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I was thinking it was a new material for clothing … but a new frame material is more likely, isn't it.


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 6:50 pm
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A bigger wheel whould be a game changer...


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 7:28 pm
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Given the fact that the background is green, I'm gonna say it's some sort of recyclable carbon type material.


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 7:56 pm
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New Aero dropper post fitting standard...


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 8:14 pm
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The background photograph reminded me of that funny mesh frame that was manufactured a few years ago:

I'm sure somebody else made something similar as well.


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 8:23 pm
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threaded bottom brackets


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 8:27 pm
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Obviously a bar mount for laser cannon in stealth black.


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 8:31 pm
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I love my Remedy but Trek can't be trusted with a standard so I reckon it'll be some sort of bullshit


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 9:03 pm
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650C wheels slightly smaller than 650b


 
Posted : 03/03/2019 9:27 pm
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Trek employee on MTBR

Let's just say, it is something for everyone and it will change a standard that has been accepted for years. That is all I can and shall say until the 19th!

oh god no


 
Posted : 06/03/2019 6:55 pm
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Bigger diameter BB shell. We can then have internal BB back again, but threaded.

They haven't meddled with spoke placing yet - spokes on sidewall of rim?

Pedal bolt diameter increase, for moar stiffness. (S****)

New cable diameter and material?

I-beam 2.0?


 
Posted : 06/03/2019 7:02 pm
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Twin front wheels, Piaggio MP3/Yamaha Niken stylee.


 
Posted : 06/03/2019 7:04 pm
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A **** new * standard?!

Trek can go * themselves with a square tapered bottom bracket!


 
Posted : 06/03/2019 7:07 pm
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They haven’t meddled with spoke placing yet – spokes on sidewall of rim?

Shimano did that with their XTR & XT race wheels a decade ago:
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Posted : 06/03/2019 7:10 pm
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Shimano did that

Scrub that then.


 
Posted : 06/03/2019 7:16 pm
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They haven’t meddled with spoke placing yet – spokes on sidewall of rim?

Shimano did it already.

Pedal bolt diameter increase, for moar stiffness. (S****)

If it allowed 1 inboard and no outboard bearings, a market would be found.


 
Posted : 06/03/2019 7:35 pm
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Knock block chainsets.


 
Posted : 06/03/2019 9:53 pm
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FFS, it’s Trek, they’ve managed to get PED’s legalised for all UCI events. Obvs.


 
Posted : 06/03/2019 10:02 pm
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Ovalised cassettes


 
Posted : 06/03/2019 10:36 pm
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It's a new, nonlinear measurement standard with a random number generator in, for measuring tyre widths


 
Posted : 06/03/2019 10:42 pm
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Rod brakes make a come back... 🙂


 
Posted : 06/03/2019 11:28 pm
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I'm going for integrated gearbox or integrated gearbox with ebike motor.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 7:37 am
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Or a pinion with some kind of Di2/AXS style actuation?


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 7:41 am
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Bamboo bikes


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 8:04 am
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[url= https://patents.justia.com/patent/20180257734 ]Anything here?[/url] I'm struggling to work out quite what this is, although it sounds a bit like a new 'softtail' with the seattube (rather than the rear triangle) deflecting.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 8:11 am
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Let’s just say, it is something for everyone and it will change a standard that has been accepted for years. That is all I can and shall say until the 19th!

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmeh.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 8:13 am
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Triangular wheels.
Frameless bikes with anti-mag suspension.
Square wheels.
Four wheels and engine and metal box


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 8:18 am
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I reckon they're going to rip off the Athertons/Robot Bike Co and offer custom geometry.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 8:28 am
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So suspension grips using elastomer ish stuff instead of a round handle bar

Ah, a Trek pogo stick...


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 8:31 am
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Anything here? I’m struggling to work out quite what this is, although it sounds a bit like a new ‘softtail’ with the seattube (rather than the rear triangle) deflecting.

Sounds like isospeed, Trek Domane 2012 ish, also on some of their hardtails.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 8:38 am
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Some sort of derailleur fitted around the large front cog, enabling a choice of up to three front cogs, allowing a more efficient small cassette on the back of say, eight gears, but giving a wider range.
Madness I know, but I’m on my third coffee.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 8:49 am
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Re-imagining the whole handlebars at the front saddle at the back thing. Electric obvs, with lower bucket seat for aero. Extra wheel at back for stability. And a lawsuit from Sir Clive 😀


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 8:53 am
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Regenerative braking on an Ebike?


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 8:59 am
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Interesting strategy to tease it this early. It's obviously not a closely guarded secret. Even some folk on this thread seem to know what it is. So, they must be expecting most of the details to leak before the official launch. Is that to generate more hype or just to get the backlash out the way before the launch?

I'm assuming it will be another attempt to persuade us that we need a motor of some sort on our mountain bike. Can't blame them really. If you can convince people to pay more for something less reliable then why wouldn't you?


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 9:07 am
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Even some folk on this thread seem to know what it is.

The 'something for everyone' quoted earlier from a Trek employee seems fitting.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 9:22 am
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They're going to apologise for ruining the Bontrager and Klein brands and bring them back to former glory?


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 9:35 am
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Gravel bike with adjustable 'compliance'?
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20190031273A1/


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 9:45 am
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Are they doing a range of women's clothes & not including anything pink?


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 9:57 am
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To be fair it's got everyone talking about their upcoming product release... which was the aim of this marketing campaign.

In protest we should all just stop talking about it and ignore whatever it is when it has been released!


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 10:21 am
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Let’s just say, it is something for everyone and it will change a standard that has been accepted for years. That is all I can and shall say until the 19th!

Logically, pretty much the *only* thing that has stayed [b]standard[/b] over the last 30 years is 1/2" pitch on chains (and yes, I know someone is going to come along with the whole 3/32" chain thing on BMX and some track bikes or the very small number of bikes that use belt-drive but basically, chains are 1/2" pitch).

If you think about it, more or less every other "standard" has changed in that time. Wheels (in size and how they're fitted), bar / stem sizes, rear dropout spacing, disc mounts, steerer tube diameter....

Frame material isn't a standard so it shouldn't really be some magic new material because there'll always be steel & alu & carbon & Ti...

Geometry isn't really a standard becasue while there's a (mostly) accepted range of what is considered normal there are always outliers and evolutions and different bikes for different purposes so it shouldn't be some wildly new geometry.

The only other thing I can think of that has remained a standard for that long is the saddle, it's almost always been a twin-railed seat held in place by one or two bolts. A few exceptions over the years but saddles are pretty mucha universal standard.

So, new chainless (gearbox?) bike or a new saddle.
Let's see how dramatically wrong I am at the end of the month...


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 10:25 am
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Like @matt_outandabout said, pedal spindle thread diameter has been around for ages.

Attaching the saddle to the frame with a round post is almost universal.

Major mfrs. are also pretty conservative in crank length.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 10:31 am
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Colab with ceramicspeed and their shaft drive?


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 10:42 am
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Something to do with personal protection is my guess.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 10:45 am
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Don't like Trek so not fussed...


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 10:49 am
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Must be something material related.
Here's the whole image, and you can see some sort of lattice bottom left.
They've called the image 'Xd Teaser Marquee', so who knows.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 10:53 am
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lets not limit ourselves to 2 wheels


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 11:33 am
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Pedal bolt diameter increase, for moar stiffness. (S****)

If it allowed 1 inboard and no outboard bearings, a market would be found.

Bin done innit?

pedals


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 11:41 am
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Guys, listen to this weeks dirt shed show.

Its a 'new' material, some sort of natural based/organic composite material. More recyclable, easier to produce, etc etc.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 12:13 pm
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Natural based organic composite? That sounds like plywood....


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 12:18 pm
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A free pistol with each bike. Cos bears.


 
Posted : 07/03/2019 12:23 pm
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it's obvious, isn't it...
Harris tweed instead of carbon fibres in the frame and the battery will be used to run a new hi-tech, super intelligent power self-steering system.


 
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Actually, rear wheel drive has kind of been a given for a while...

Two wheel electric drive? Full suspension with big tyres would be quite an unstoppable machine up a hill


 
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