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I like to stow a tube and pump under my saddle, but wrapping in poly bags is not a very tidy/robust solution plus it looks like a dong.

Any ideas on how I can do this better/neater?

Ideally I want to find a little waterproof bag I can use to stow the stuff in.

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Posted : 03/08/2016 7:38 am
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erm...a saddlebag?..Or is that too obvious?


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 7:40 am
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Jersey pocket?


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 7:41 am
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Trolling surely?


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 7:43 am
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That really does look like you are hiding a big orange dildo....

Ortlieb do waterproof saddle bags


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 7:47 am
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erm...a saddlebag?..Or is that too obvious?

Because of the aero seatpost and saddle being far forward saddle bags don't fit very well and I need to extend the seatpost strap to get them to attach.

I really want to stow the tube and pump between the saddle rails for aerodynamics etc. So I am hoping to find a long and thin bag that can do this.

Jersey pocket?

I'd rather leave the tube and pump on the bike, less hassle than moving it between jerseys. When doing a triathlon generally don't put a jersey on when transitioning to bike anyway.
I've already got a top tube bag for tools and food.

Trolling surely?

No I am really hoping for a solution. This is my fairly old Triathlon bike. My other bike is an ancient MTB.

You need an exquisitely curated artisanal bikepacking saddle bag.

That sounds out of my price range. I might be able to craft something out of an old MTB inner tube though, Hmm.


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 7:53 am
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You need an exquisitely curated artisanal bikepacking saddle bag.


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 7:53 am
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bottle cage pump mount (or are the tubes too narrow) and tube taped/strapped to saddle ( I used a big velcro strap I had spare from something or other also held a multitool).


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 7:56 am
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I'm sure someone like www.beerbabe.co.uk would make you something custom that would fit.


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 7:56 am
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[url= http://www.sigmasport.co.uk/item/Specialized/Road-Bandit/E3UW ]http://www.sigmasport.co.uk/item/Specialized/Road-Bandit/E3UW[/url]

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Posted : 03/08/2016 8:09 am
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Change shape of things in clear bag. 😉


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 8:10 am
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Those specialized ones only fit specialiZed saddles, try weecog if you want a saddle bag that will fit


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 8:15 am
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When doing a triathlon

Ah that explains it 😉


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 8:17 am
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Neoprene camera lens case off ebay for a couple of quid?


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 8:24 am
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Pencil case?


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 8:26 am
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Because of the aero seatpost and saddle being far forward saddle bags don't fit very well and I need to extend the seatpost strap to get them to attach.

The small Topeak saddle bag I bought last week fits my "aero seatpost with saddle way forward" very well.


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 8:27 am
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Scott make very small, neat and discrete saddle bags that hang from a W clamp. The smallest will take a tube, levers, multi tool and a gas cylinder. The only problem is that their seatpost straps are always too long so will need a bight stitched in to shorten them so that the velcro joins properly.


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 8:28 am
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The smallest Ortlieb one has no strap round the seatpost, that might work.


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 8:30 am
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I've already got a top tube bag for tools and food.

Bigger top tube bag that'll take the pump and tube, alpkit do them


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 8:40 am
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Go tubeless?


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 8:42 am
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I would store that down the front of my bib shorts and bask in the appreciative glances of passers by


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 8:49 am
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Something like this? I've used this one and it's probably a bit small for a pump. I have bodged bike carriers using velcro cable ties and MOLLE kit.

Might be worth hunting around for something custom made, costs a bit more but if it does exactly what you want it may be worth it.

https://www.lezyne.com/product-orgnzrs-caddys-rollcaddy.php#.V6GxzeRTGUk


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 8:59 am
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Sit on the saddle, then no-one will see it. Also, if you don't take photos nobody will notice. Another thing is you could use a dog-poo bag (new one) as they are usually black.


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 9:01 am
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Load gear in here and pop down shorts ( the front, not the back )

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Posted : 03/08/2016 9:20 am
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You are riding a Triathlon bike and are worried about looking less of cock?. 😉


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 10:17 am
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Topeak do saddle bags that clip on to the saddle rails but you won't get the pump in there.


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 10:22 am
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Only if you already have your water bottle on the seat tube not the down tube for its increased aero benefits should you be worrying about aero benefits of a saddlebag.


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 10:26 am
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There must be a tri specific gadget for this.

Have a look in [s]the catalogue[/s] 220 mag like the rest of your sort.


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 10:29 am
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Another great trolling thread from Twisty.

Utter guff.


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 10:33 am
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aero

triathlon

Just use a saddlebag. Stuff behind your saddle has basically zero drag:
http://www.triradar.com/training-advice/the-best-place-for-bike-bottles-in-triathlon/
http://cyclinguphill.com/rear-mounted-bottle-cages/

so just stick your tools there. A medium Topeak Aero Wedge with straps ([url= http://www.wiggle.co.uk/topeak-aero-wedge-buckle-medium-saddle-bag/ ]like this[/url]) costs naff all and you can get 2 CO2 cartridges, two tubes with valve extenders, CO2 inflator, tyre levers and a multitool in there. That's plenty for IM distance (you can stick some glueless patches in there if you want as a backstop). Ditch the pump for racing, CO2 is much quicker and easier than huffing away on a mini pump.


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 12:02 pm
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Tight wrap n an old toestrap used to be the solution,leather ones are the boys!


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 12:10 pm
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Why bother putting a tube and a pump in a bag? it is not like water is really going to bother them.

Remove them from the bag and tape them to the saddle rails with electrical tape or if you want a re-usable solution look at getting some double sided Velcro or re-usable cable ties.


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 12:13 pm
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Topeak do saddle bags that clip on to the saddle rails but you won't get the pump in there.

You will if you use a CO2 pump.


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 12:30 pm
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I'd rather leave the tube and pump on the bike, less hassle than moving it between jerseys.

I put my pump & tube in middle pocket of jersey, and just remove it and pop it in my helmet until the next ride.

I've never thought of it as a hassle.


 
Posted : 03/08/2016 3:30 pm
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Images of further illustration, due to the layout a regular saddlebag sits really low, it is very difficult to even unzip and open it as it fouls on the saddle, plus I want to leave that bag on the MTB. The front mounted bag is just really untidy. Furthermore I've just got it stuck in my head that I want to stow stuff between the saddle rails because it is a tidy way of doing it, think of it a bit like wanting a stealth cable rather than external cable for a dropper post.
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BTW somebody asked about my water bottle, it fits snugly between my arms, super aero 8)
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Posted : 04/08/2016 4:53 am
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Why does it matter that the bag fouls the rails? If you've got a puncture 10 seconds to release the bag ain't gonna make the slightest bit of difference.

Surely storing stuff under the saddle is stupid, it'll limit the natural flex and decrease comfort.

Put it in one of those God awful top tube bags and hide it behind your special bottle for moar aero innit.


 
Posted : 04/08/2016 5:23 am
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Well I just went ahead and had a go at making a prototype bag. It fits a tube, pump and tyre lever in there. Going to go and test it out, hopefully I can KOM some segments with my new found aero-ness. I don't think it affects comfort because there is still room for saddle flex and room for stuff to fit through the comfort cavity etc.

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Posted : 04/08/2016 6:41 am
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To be fair, that is quite tidy 🙂

I'd still say ditch the pump for a second tube and CO2 canisters though! What distance are you racing?


 
Posted : 04/08/2016 8:09 am
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This is for just general riding around, for a race i would switch the pump for a co2 thingie.
In years of riding this bike i never punctured but i always like to carry a spare just in case. I punctured for the first time a little while ago, pinch flat at high speed while trying to KOM a segment, so now i need to rewrap my spare package again 😕


 
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That really does look like you are hiding a big orange dildo....

Ortlieb do waterproof saddle bags

or panniers if you feel the need to carry a vast collection of exotic toys and who doesn't ?


 
Posted : 04/08/2016 11:07 am
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You carry a latex tube as a spare?! 😯


 
Posted : 04/08/2016 12:45 pm
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You carry a latex tube as a spare?!

Yes, because it packs smaller. What is wrong with latex as a spare?
Conti butyls in the tyres by the way.

or panniers if you feel the need to carry a vast collection of exotic toys and who doesn't ?

I actually have a pair of panniers from Ortlieb whixh i rather like. The 100% waterproof wipe clean type. I currently dont have a bike i can mount them on through, lol.


 
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Yes, because it packs smaller. What is wrong with latex as a spare?

I ride latex tubes and love them, but they're really easy to pinch when you're fitting them, I've had a few pop. For a road side repair I carry a more durable butyl. Oh and if you've flatted because of any sort of small cut in the tyre, you'll likely get a lot further on a butyl spare than a latex one.


 
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It does seem a bit arse about tit riding on butyl and carry latex as a spare.

Butyl is very much my **** this for a game of soldiers its cold and wet and i want to go home tube.


 
Posted : 04/08/2016 1:12 pm
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To me it makes sense. Butyl has 10% the air/nitrogen diffusion rate of latex so I need to pump up my tyres much less frequently, latex packs smaller and is lighter so is less of a lump to carry around.
I never pinch tubes when fitting them because I preinflate the tube a little and take a bit of care when seating the last bit of the tyre bead. I don't have any tubeless road tyres though so maybe this would be different.
If I have a cut in the tyre then I go and find a crisp/gel packet anyway even if I'm installing a butyl tube.
I just found 1 boxed latex tube and started using it as a spare as I am always struggling for stowage space on the TT bike. I don't remember how I ended up with just one latex tube, maybe I bought a pair for a racing and then lost one or something.


 
Posted : 05/08/2016 4:20 am
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Carrying a latex tube as a spare is a recipe for disaster. I run latex tubes but carry a butyl spare as they are much easier to fit and roll up. And I take it as you only have one latex tube you've never tried fitting it on the roadside.


 
Posted : 05/08/2016 5:01 am
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Every day is a school day never knew triathletes could change tubes...


 
Posted : 05/08/2016 5:20 am
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I am a MTBiker diversified into Triathlon though. Friend who migrated from Rugby to Tri punctures almost every race and has loads of other mechanical disasters.

You chaps are getting me worried about my tube strategy. I've never had a problem but this is based on few latex experiences. What makes a latex spare so troublesome, brittle through UV exposure?


 
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It's just that they are pretty fragile when installing and it's easy to pop one even when being really careful. At least that's my experience having used latex tubes across 3 road bikes for the past couple of years and changed a fair few. I'd not want to rely on one as my spare, especially for a roadside change. That's why I carry a more robust butyl spare.

Latex tubes are great to use every day though, with quality open tubular tyres they make for a lovely tubular like ride. And they seem to have decent puncture resistance too, maybe being more supple helps there. Yes you do have to pump them up every ride but that's not really much of an inconvenience.

never pinch tubes when fitting them because I preinflate the tube a little and take a bit of care when seating the last bit of the tyre bead.

Assuming you've not fitted many latex tubes 😉


 
Posted : 05/08/2016 7:32 am
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Yes, because it packs smaller.

Could go for a schwalbe aerothan one? Assuming they come in road sizes, i haven't checked, must admit


 
Posted : 05/08/2016 7:48 am
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I am always struggling for stowage space on the TT bike.

You could just get over it and use a saddle bag to store two tubes and extras 😀
No aero penalty for races, for training rides it doesn't matter how aero you are.

I never pinch tubes when fitting them because I preinflate the tube a little and take a bit of care when seating the last bit of the tyre bead.

Fine on a training ride. Have you had to change a tube mid-race when you're huffing out your arse? It's a lot more difficult to be calm in that situation (especially if it's changing a slow flat on the front that's just caused you to crash 👿 )


 
Posted : 05/08/2016 9:36 am
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You could just get over it and use a saddle bag to store two tubes and extras
No aero penalty for races, for training rides it doesn't matter how aero you are.

It's a combination of using training rides to test out race day stuff so less chance of wrecking a race and also just wanting to go that little bit faster even if it isn't a race.
I've only changed tubes in MTB races I have to confess.
Anyhoo you chaps may have influenced me to just leave that latex tube in the bike and use a butyl as a spare rather than flip them around, although I also need to straighten the rim after smashing it into that pothole yesterday 👿


 
Posted : 05/08/2016 9:50 am

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