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I just bought a second-hand heckler on eBay - I went for a ride last night and I'm very pleased with it. I'd really like to know a bit more about the specs, but despite quite a bit of hunting around online I can't work out how to identify which version it is.

If anyone can offer any thoughts I'd be very grateful, especially in terms of the amount of travel, appropriate fork/shock upgrades etc I'd be very grateful.

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Posted : 12/09/2013 9:51 am
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2007 the gussets on the head tube are the clue added after 06 ish. Possibly into 08 but the mk6 appeared in 09 I think.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 9:54 am
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It's an earlier one my 2009 had a curved rear triangle and no brace at the headtube.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 9:55 am
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It's a 2005-2006. If I had to guess a year I'd say 2005, pretty sure mine was a 2006 and the headtube gusset was more "internal".


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 10:01 am
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Thats an earlier one, possibly US made. The later Hecklers had a smaller headtube gusset.

US made early model
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Late model Taiwan made
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Posted : 12/09/2013 10:01 am
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I would say early 2007 or before. The curved swingarm first appeared in 2007. I had one exactly like it.


 
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It's a 2005-2006. If I had to guess a year I'd say 2005, pretty sure mine was a 2006 and the headtube gusset was more "internal

Im sticking with 07 the 06 didn't have the head tube plates. I had one, the missus had an 07 in red which matches the pic my next one was 09 and was the updated mk6 with different hanger and back end look.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 10:04 am
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It's a 2005-2006. If I had to guess a year I'd say 2005, pretty sure mine was a 2006 and the headtube gusset was more "internal

Im sticking with 07 the 06 didn't have the head tube plates. I had one, the missus had an 07 in red which matches the pic my next one was 09 and was the updated mk6 with different hanger and back end look.

Pretty sure the ones that came out in 2007 had the newer shape and curvy swingarm. Mine was a 2006 (I think actually originally bought early 2007) and had the internal headtube gusset:

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The earlier (as mentioned US made ones) had the "welded over" gussets, as per the OP - so 2005 and earlier. In fact looking at the Santa Cruz page, the shape of the gusset looks like it could be a 2003:

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[url= http://www.santacruzbikes.co.uk/site2009/bicycles_archive/reviews/heckler4/wmb.html ]2003 Heckler review[/url]


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 10:19 am
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Thanks everyone! I just found [url= http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/frames/mountain-frame/product/review-santa-cruz-heckler-frame-10979 ]this Bike Radar review[/url] from '8 years ago' (it doesn't give a date) and the picture looks just like mine.

That review says it'll take a 6" fork, but the spec on the right hand side says a max of 130mm - does anyone know the correct answer?


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 10:22 am
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Pretty sure the ones that came out in 2007 had the newer shape and curvy swingarm. Mine was a 2006 (I think actually originally bought early 2007) and had the internal headtube gusset:

This is where it gets harder as sc don't really do years. The missus had the one from 07 which was an evolution of my 06 it was later when the curved swingarm came in... In the airport s can't pop downstairs and get a pic. In the end the serial number should confirm everything.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 10:25 am
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ah, that's a good idea - I guess I could just email SC with the frame number - dim of me not to think of that earlier 🙂


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 10:33 am
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It looks exactly the same as my 2003 model that's still going strong. Welds, gussets, swing arm all match. Great bike.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 10:36 am
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If it is that model then it's 5"/130mm rear travel. I've got 130mm forks on it which feel just right.


 
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that's a 2004 iirc - 2006 Heckler.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 10:44 am
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Lorax mind me asking how much you paid, I will shortly be selling a similar Heckler. Mine is 05 and the frame looks almost identical. Mine has a 2012 RP23 shock and Fox 36rc forks with Hope and shimano XT kit.

At a guess I was thinking around the £300 to £350 mark.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 10:53 am
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chowmein - I paid £750 which is in line with what I've seen others go for. If you want to sell yours for £350 I'll buy it from you this afternoon 🙂

I'd certainly be interested in your forks, and perhaps shock too, if you're splitting...


 
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They are awesome downhill bikes but I am getting old and need something more XC with big wheels 🙂 Doubt I would bother splitting but will let you know if I do.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 11:37 am
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If it's like my Chameleon then the first two digits of the serial number are the year it was made (iirc).


 
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If it's like my Chameleon then the first two digits of the serial number are the year it was made (iirc).

pretty sure it was the same for my Nomad too.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 11:53 am
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Thanks for all the input everyone - I knew the STW collective would be able to help!

Good tip on the frame number! Mine starts with 06, which sounds right

I'm really impressed by the bike - it's clearly quite old but feels incredibly well put together, and was a pleasure to ride last night. I have a slightly older Superlight which climbs better and feels more agile, but this was more solid and stable. I assume a newer bike would feel even better, but for someone at my (pretty feeble) skill level this is more than enough.


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 12:00 pm
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I have an 06 Heckler frame (new bearings)with an rp23(serviced 6 weeks ago) and some 36's or sectors if there is any interest?


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 12:40 pm
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Any other thoughts on fork travel? Is 150mm too much for one of these?


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 4:55 pm
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My 2006/7 Heckler had 150 Revs and was ace!!


 
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looks like a heckler 5.0 which ran from 2001 - 2007, you can tell from the mech hanger.

the 6.0 came out late 2007 and had a different mech hanger


 
Posted : 12/09/2013 7:06 pm
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Thanks guys. Anyone have any views on how a 140/110 Talas would suit it?


 
Posted : 13/09/2013 7:04 am
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[quote=lorax ]Thanks guys. Anyone have any views on how a 140/110 Talas would suit it?

I ran 140/150 on mine but as 140-160 can be the same A2C then it's all relative.


 
Posted : 13/09/2013 7:27 am
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Was going to sell my heckler to a biking buddy for 300 - 350 but OP suggested its worth more. I have no idea really, it was bought for £2,800 in 2004. what do you think ?

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worth more than 350 quid I'd say. Would be surprised if you didn't get 500 for it easily...


 
Posted : 18/09/2013 9:20 pm
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I'd have thought more like £600+, assuming it's all in good working order


 
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