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All the components are just a straight swap or should be. Its my electric kitted bike so slightly more complex than usual. Do I start it tonight?


 
Posted : 15/02/2017 9:18 pm
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I'd leave it for tomorrow!


 
Posted : 15/02/2017 9:22 pm
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Come on. There never a straight swap really though. Always that slightly longer/shorter gear cable or brake line that you have to get.

Leave it till the LBS is open just incase.


 
Posted : 15/02/2017 9:24 pm
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I can't be sensible here - Its already started


 
Posted : 15/02/2017 9:26 pm
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You should be done by just after 11. Crack on.


 
Posted : 15/02/2017 9:34 pm
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I can't be sensible here - Its already started

I would have too! 🙂


 
Posted : 15/02/2017 9:35 pm
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Took me an hour from start to finish finding tools, cleaning parts and lubing things. Then spent another hour after a ride to tweek things.


 
Posted : 15/02/2017 9:36 pm
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Do the forks first.

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Posted : 15/02/2017 9:36 pm
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Crack on, it'll give the 2am STW crowd something to follow


 
Posted : 15/02/2017 9:37 pm
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[quote=survivor ]Come on. There never a straight swap really though.

Yes they are, well that what I tell my wife 😉


 
Posted : 15/02/2017 9:40 pm
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Took me an hour from start to finish finding tools, cleaning parts and lubing things

And then how long did it take to do the bike build?


 
Posted : 15/02/2017 9:41 pm
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He's already hit it with the ugly hammer so he can't do much more harm tonight.


 
Posted : 15/02/2017 9:45 pm
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Right - rear wheel and mudguard swapped. anti rotation bracket for the electrickery in


 
Posted : 15/02/2017 10:06 pm
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Steven is right BTW - it fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. Current incarnation
[url= https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/407/32923147925_0a3d19422c_b.jp g" target="_blank">https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/407/32923147925_0a3d19422c_b.jp g"/> [/img][/url][url= https://flic.kr/p/SaiJRt ]IMG_0001[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/25846484@N04/ ]TandemJeremy[/url], on Flickr

Everything going onto a smaller less corroded frame

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Posted : 15/02/2017 10:08 pm
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Steven is right BTW - it fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. Current incarnation

Well, a bike with a lot of utility that will see a lot of use is better than a wallflower.


 
Posted : 15/02/2017 10:31 pm
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Buggeration - dropped a critical shim into the space time vortex


 
Posted : 15/02/2017 10:36 pm
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It's under the fridge.


 
Posted : 15/02/2017 10:46 pm
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electric motor in the bb, rear wheel and mudguard on, time to stop as I keep on dropping bits. Part 2 tomorrow folks!


 
Posted : 15/02/2017 11:07 pm
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electric motor in the bb, rear wheel and mudguard on, time to stop as I keep on dropping bits. Part 2 tomorrow folks!

Damned inconsiderate!
Have to go to sleep soon now. 🙁

Oh,I agree with a comment someone else made. Who cares about looks, it's a bike meant to be practical and used a lot.


 
Posted : 15/02/2017 11:46 pm
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I managed a frame swap in approx 30 mins once, just a single speed though so not too tricky!


 
Posted : 15/02/2017 11:57 pm
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It's under the fridge.

Yes, probably, but not until tomorrow morning


 
Posted : 16/02/2017 12:14 am
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found the shim OK and did carry on a bit - forks in but that will have to do. Tidying up and finishing tomorrow


 
Posted : 16/02/2017 12:18 am
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Kids these days, no commitment


 
Posted : 16/02/2017 12:22 am
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Currently at 6 days
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BB tool has gone walk about (probably with the rest of my stuff in storage) and myt massive collection of ProII 20mm adaptors has evaporated. When I get some more time I'll finish it off -


 
Posted : 16/02/2017 12:24 am
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What? I set an alarm for updates and OP has gone to bed with an unfinished build?

What kind of shoddy behaviour is this?


 
Posted : 16/02/2017 1:15 am
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Come on lazy, get going we need some pre work entertainment


 
Posted : 16/02/2017 7:11 am
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jeepers its only 9am - I am only on my second coffee


 
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Ok - enough coffee consumed. Back to work. This is how I find the bike this morning - all major components in place.
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Messy workshop I know


 
Posted : 16/02/2017 10:25 am
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You've built it upside down you fool.


 
Posted : 16/02/2017 10:29 am
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dagnamitt! the whole bike? * mumbles*


 
Posted : 16/02/2017 10:31 am
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I bust the 575 on a holiday a few years ago. The shop swapped fitted the headset, the rest was done at the campsite whilst ahsat made curry and brought me beer! A couple of hours, though not with the complication of your motor etc.

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Posted : 16/02/2017 10:35 am
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Buggeration - motor unit is touching the frame where it shouldn't. Has to come out again and the frame be gently pursuaded


 
Posted : 16/02/2017 10:58 am
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Motor unit back in properly. Perhaps doing this last night was not so clever. Now to the finishing touches 🙂


 
Posted : 16/02/2017 11:41 am
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Well the answer was about 4 hours including searching for lost bits and false starts

The finished article
[url= https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3788/32810448541_84b5995186_c.jp g" target="_blank">https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3788/32810448541_84b5995186_c.jp g"/> [/img][/url][url= https://flic.kr/p/RZm8fD ]IMG_0009[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/25846484@N04/ ]TandemJeremy[/url], on Flickr
Plenty of reflectives!
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detail of the electric kit
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The gaffer taped lump is excess cabling tucked out of the way
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Posted : 16/02/2017 2:23 pm
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If that was a baby, the midwife would have slapped the mother.


 
Posted : 16/02/2017 2:32 pm
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🙂

Built for a purpose - to get me to work in comfort and make the hills easy.

I actually want to uglyfy it further as a theft deterrent considering that a couple of grands worth of kit. I though painted with pink emulsion then plastic flowers all over it like the dutch do 😉


 
Posted : 16/02/2017 2:35 pm
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I actually want to uglyfy it further

You've got to admire a dreamer.


 
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I actually want to uglyfy it further

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Posted : 16/02/2017 2:46 pm
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I think a sticker that says, "I am TJs and if he finds you, your ears will regret it." That ought to do it.


 
Posted : 16/02/2017 4:16 pm
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I thought this thread was about reframing a bike, not polishing a turd?


 
Posted : 16/02/2017 6:01 pm
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Its a bike built for a purpose not as an ornament. 🙂

Its for commuting to work - 6.5 miles uphill at 6am followed by a 13 hr shift followed by the ride home. I need to carry a fair amount of stuff so a rack is needed. I commute every working day all year round so mudguards are a must ( plus the funny mud-flap to protect the motor) I go right across Edinburgh on the badly potholed and cobbled streets so suspension and 1.75 tyres help. High mary bars are comfy and wind resistance don't matter as going to work its uphill and I get the prevailing wind in my face and home is downhill. Disc brakes as some sections are high speed thru traffic and being able to hold your speed thru junctions is a big help but sticky tyres and discs give me greater margins. The e bike kit saves me 15 mins out of 37 on the way in. Thats significant

And I knew it would upset the STW sense of right 😉 Just wait until the pink brushed paintjob and the artificial flowers! I'll get the pics up when I do!


 
Posted : 16/02/2017 6:11 pm
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Ok chaps - help me out here 0 the pedals seem absurdly low as in gettng pedal strikes going over speedbumps and on cornering even at tiny angles of lean. Its a 100mm fork on it with 20% sag. I can't see why this would be so - any clues?


 
Posted : 21/02/2017 1:24 pm
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are they sticking further out?

Lower BB would be too obvious? -> shorter cranks..


 
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[quote=tjagain ]Ok chaps - help me out here 0 the pedals seem absurdly low as in gettng pedal strikes going over speedbumps and on cornering even at tiny angles of lean. Its a 100mm fork on it with 20% sag. I can't see why this would be so - any clues?

don't pedal over speedbumps and round corners. HTH.


 
Posted : 21/02/2017 1:43 pm
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Ah - that could be it - the elecy motor adds to the width I think - but even so the pedal seem absurdly low. Much lower than the genesis ioid all the kit bar the motor was on before. chainstay does seem to be a bit lower at the BB end. are all 100mm forks equal? How much difference in axle to crown measuremets are there? with the fork fully compressed the bottom of the crank arm is no more than an inch from the ground.


 
Posted : 21/02/2017 1:44 pm
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May be stating the obvious but are you sure that was a 26" frame and not a 29'er?


 
Posted : 21/02/2017 1:50 pm
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pretty sure - not much clearance between the tyre and the seatstay bridge otherwise I would say yes thats my issue


 
Posted : 21/02/2017 3:27 pm
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Sounds like the replacement frame just has a lower BB than the old one. You'll get used to it after a few rides.


 
Posted : 21/02/2017 3:39 pm
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Everything going onto a smaller less corroded frame

smaller frame, so maybe do need shorter cranks?


 
Posted : 21/02/2017 3:42 pm
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with the fork fully compressed the bottom of the crank arm is no more than an inch from the ground.

assuming 175mm crankarms, that puts your BB 8" off the ground. IIRC the length of the fork affects the BB height by roughly a third of any change so if your measuring this with 100mm travel used up, then with 20mm sag your BB height is sitting at around 9-9.5" which is low in the extreme.


 
Posted : 21/02/2017 3:54 pm
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aye - and according to the blurb I found for the frame - a 2012 claud butler cape wrath the bb should be 12" high

its a 16" frame

With the fork extended fully bb height is 11 1/4 inch


 
Posted : 21/02/2017 3:57 pm
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Prob a combination of A2C, BB height and motor width.

The quandary is what is the simplest fix?


 
Posted : 21/02/2017 4:11 pm
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It's basically the bike self-harming, and who can blame it.


 
Posted : 21/02/2017 4:18 pm
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Smaller / lower profile tyres on it as well than it would have had in its incarnation as a mountainbike

I tried putting the genesis ioid frame alongside it. If I line the bb and rear spindle up the genesis frame is 2 1/2" lower at the headtube. Line up the headtube and rear wheel spindle the bb on the claud butler frame is an inch lower at the bb ( roughly)

the main issue is I was going to put a rigid fork on it - but thats shorter than the sus fork! maybe I'll just lengthen the fork to 120 mm ( it can be done) as that would help a little

all just seems a bit odd.


 
Posted : 21/02/2017 4:22 pm
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LOL @ IHN


 
Posted : 21/02/2017 4:23 pm
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Prob a combination of A2C, BB height and motor width.

The quandary is what is the simplest fix?

Narrower pedals.


 
Posted : 21/02/2017 7:38 pm

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