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[Closed] How does bike geometry affect cornering stability?

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A question for the technical!

How does wheelbase/head angle affect cornering stability?
Why does a 29er seem to be more stable in a corner (so long as it's not too tight)?

Basically what do I look out for if I want a bike that can drift around corners with style? 😉


 
Posted : 03/04/2013 12:19 pm
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Basically what do I look out for if I want a bike that can drift around corners with style

more talent?


 
Posted : 03/04/2013 12:21 pm
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I'm no expert, but I think a low centre of gravity may be the key. Not sure whether the relationship of the CofG to the axles is also a factor, but that might help explain the extra cornering stability of a 29er.


 
Posted : 03/04/2013 12:25 pm
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A tyre combo you feel comfortable with.
You want something with low grip that doesn't break away suddenly, then just practice.


 
Posted : 03/04/2013 12:27 pm
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I have been mulling over the COG/axle relationship - suffice to say I'm confused. Surely the bike pivots from the bottom, where tyres meet floor, rather than axles anyway?

@Van Halen you have been trolled, have a nice day.


 
Posted : 03/04/2013 12:30 pm
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Having ridden a few different bikes and tyres I know tyres count for a lot (currently on minion+high roller) but think there's more to it than that.

I guess the longer contact patch on a 29er might give more predictability, though, as it kind of averages the grip characteristics of a longer section of trail..?


 
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The overall wheelbase affects stability v.s. agility, and position of the BB relative to the front and back contact patches seems to affect how easily the back breaks free. It's nice to have trail bikes with different ride characteristics - keeps the riding fresh.


 
Posted : 03/04/2013 12:43 pm
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sideshow - happy to feed..

whats it called when bikes 'fall into a corner' like they seem stable in a straight line but as you turn the turn gets faster? on long slack trail bikes? do 29ers have this issue as the HA is much steeper?

there are a million things affecting cornering. talent/commitment being the biggest factors. tyres are an excuse.


 
Posted : 03/04/2013 12:44 pm
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buzz so would a downhill bike have the bb relatively further forward, or further back, and why?

vanhalen - not sure I've ridden enough of them to tell. I can only think of that being a problem if I let go of the bars - haven't noticed the effect otherwise.

A mate of mine had great advice for cornering better. "Just hit the corner faster than you're comfortable with, and deal with it..."


 
Posted : 03/04/2013 1:08 pm
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I'm not sure. They tend to be long which makes sense. DH racers are unreal, they way they are riding much more dynamic than anything I can do.

I use my two bikes as a reference: the Sovereign is short overall, and when you stand over the BB you feel really forward, nearer the front contact patch - it corners with minimal input and the back is a loose as anything.


 
Posted : 03/04/2013 1:18 pm
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Came across an article on twitter that may interest you http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2011/02/the-geometry-of-bike-handling/


 
Posted : 03/04/2013 1:24 pm

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