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[Closed] How could i have fixed it ? 10 speed link on a broken 7 speed chain ?

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On Sat i bumped into a fella on the Thames path, he was at the side of the trail, so i stopped to see if he was OK.

It transpires he'd snapped his chain and was therefore stranded.

Luckily i had my chain-tool in the seat pack and soon had the pins out and was ready to fit a quick link. Which happily for him, i also had in my pack.

Sadly though, it was a 10 speed KMC link, he had i think a 7-8 speed chain on there and no matter what i tried i just couldn't get the link to work on his chain. The pins wouldn't slot through on both sides fully, so i couldn't close the link.

In the end, he had a 4 mile walk... Sorry fella.

Anything i could have done ?


 
Posted : 21/05/2018 9:18 am
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Break the chain.

Remove damaged link.

Reuse pin.

Tell him to be careful going onto the big ring.

I actualy carry pins aswell as quick links.


 
Posted : 21/05/2018 9:21 am
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As above, remove damaged link and close the chain with next undamaged link. Chain will be a bit shorter but should be fine.

That is the way we used to do it before quick links.


 
Posted : 21/05/2018 9:28 am
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Hmmmm interesting. I've done the Shimano pin thing in the past, but never entered my head to use the pin i'd just removed.


 
Posted : 21/05/2018 9:31 am
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Just don't completely remove the pin. Then push it back in after removing the broken link.


 
Posted : 21/05/2018 9:43 am
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Reusing pins works OK up to 8 speed I think. After that you need to use the special joining pins. As above, don't push the old one right out.


 
Posted : 21/05/2018 11:38 am
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just don’t completely remove the pin.

This - it's how we used to join (SRAM) chains before quick links. Stop pushing the pin out so it's still held in place by the side plate. Then you can re-join it.

Doesn't work with Shimano chains so well as their pins are "flared" at the end. S'why they have a separate joining pin (pain in the bum that they are)

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Posted : 21/05/2018 11:47 am
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As above partially push the pin out and it'll push back in. Ideally push it out so it that it still holds the chain together but comes apart with a slight bend, so you have a small stub of pin still sticking out on the inside.

If you are missing tools or something goes horribly wrong you can still make a semi-ride-able bike by joining the chain with a cable tie, or even a bit of string, and then pump the pedals, keeping the tie in slack bit of chain at the bottom. You'll probably rip the mech off if forget and do a proper stroke though. Depending on the terrain this can be better than walking.


 
Posted : 21/05/2018 11:49 am
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Then don't forget the final checks 🙂

Image result for separated bike chain


 
Posted : 21/05/2018 12:09 pm
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1/ Dig in your tool box, you'll probably have an old 8spd powerlink or two in there.

2/ Get a bank coin bag

3/ Insert 1 into 2

4/ Insert 3/ into your hollow axle / seatpost / (Mine are actually inside my stem between SFN and the topcap)

You can bodge a repair on 8/9/10/11/probably 12 too with an 8spd to save a walk home. You can't as you found out put a 10 on an 8.

One day you'll save someones legs and carrying those extra few grams around all that time will be as nothing to the happiness that'll give you.


 
Posted : 21/05/2018 12:36 pm
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Doesn’t work with Shimano chains so well as their pins are “flared” at the end. S’why they have a separate joining pin (pain in the bum that they are)

Shimano did it first (8 speed IIRC) now everyone does it. Certainly 9/10/11/12 are all flared or mushroomed. Pretty sure almost all 8s are as well.


 
Posted : 21/05/2018 1:12 pm
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Doesn’t work with Shimano chains so well as their pins are “flared” at the end. S’why they have a separate joining pin (pain in the bum that they are)

It works enough to get you home, not great as a long term fix though. However if it doesn't work them I'm not sure how I fixed so many over the years.


 
Posted : 21/05/2018 1:15 pm

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