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[Closed] How can a front deraillur be 10 speed, 9 speed or 8 speed only?

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The width of the freehub is the same in 8,9,10 speed so the locus of the chainline is the same, so how does this have any effect on the front mech? Please explain. I'm only an engineer and by definition a bit thick..


 
Posted : 26/05/2011 10:37 pm
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Chain thickness?


 
Posted : 26/05/2011 10:38 pm
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Teh chains are different width so the mech cage is different widths?????? Having said that I am using a 7 sp on my 9spd bike


 
Posted : 26/05/2011 10:38 pm
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well I assume a 10 speed chain is narrower than an 8 speed one so potentially an "8" speed front mech would need a wider gap thus you could use an "8" speed front mech on a 10 speed system.

You see I think this is all bollocks, I've read on here mention of needing a 9 or 10 speed front mech but I think tis just confusion. I cannot find anything "official" about it.


 
Posted : 26/05/2011 10:47 pm
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What Jeremy said. Narrower chains use narrower derailers to hit them betwixt the chainrings.

Having said that, most front derailers can be tweaked and cold-worked to work with most setups, assuming there's no cable-pull issues (though even then...)

I long for the day that front derailers are but a distant memory, one of those memories that we laugh at in museums: "Ha ha, L-shaped cranks, UHT suspension, front mechs, who ever thought [i]they[/i] were a good idea!"


 
Posted : 26/05/2011 10:48 pm
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What Jeremy said. Narrower chains use narrower derailers to hit them betwixt the chainrings.

This might convince me that you could not use a "10" speed front mech on an 8 speed rear but I still don't believe it, where did you get this wisdom from, or is it an assumption?


 
Posted : 26/05/2011 10:55 pm
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Cable pull ratio [i]might [/i]be different as well (not sure if Shimano changed the front one)


 
Posted : 26/05/2011 10:58 pm
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Convince yeself not and don't be believing, for, as mentioned, most setups can be made to work fine.

A 10 speed front derailer will work with an 8 speed setup, but, being narrower, it will rub more at the extremes of the cassette when using the middle chainring.

where did you get this wisdom from

Ich bin ein grease monkey. My only front derailer is currently controlled by an ancient Rock Shox BlackBox lockout lever.

Also, this is my favourite tool for working on front derailers:

[url= http://tinyurl.com/parkdt2 ]Park DT-2[/url]


 
Posted : 26/05/2011 11:02 pm
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I have a 7 sp mech on a nine speed set up - the shifting is not so good, As the 7 sp mech has a wider cage the narrower 9spd chain is moved less than the wider 7 spd chain would be as there is more free play between the chain and the cage. Pull ratio appears to be the same.

less chain rub on the mech in exchange for the worse shifting - I only have two front rings so its not a huge issue.


 
Posted : 26/05/2011 11:06 pm
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Jezzer, the above tool could be your friend.

I've used it sort your described ailment. It works perfectly for tweaking the mech in just the right places to perfect shifting.

Course, it does depend how much it bothers you. It bothers some customers a great deal, so out comes DT-2 🙂


 
Posted : 26/05/2011 11:12 pm
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Also, this is my favourite tool for working on front derailers

What's wrong with a percussive alignment instrument? 😈


 
Posted : 26/05/2011 11:16 pm

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