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Yes indeed. My last Flintshire challenge ended just after the climb up to Nannerch. We had moved house recently, and our new neighbour threw a party which included copious amounts of home made sangria.
I wasn't well.
Cycled back home, had a shower and went to sign back in at Mold sports centre.
Happy days Indeed!! 😂
Our paths must have crossed many times in the past.
Used to do all the marathon events BITD.
I can still remember the first Dyfi event there must have only been about 100 riders.
Think we did the first ten without missing a year.
It was the event at Builth the one year when they missed a water station that finished it off for us.
2006ish I think.
Scorching hot a folks dropping like flies through lack of water at the half way point.
Only ever did the Selkirk events after that fiasco.
John Lloyd had nothing to do with the course from Selkirk so it was actually pretty good with some interesting sections in.
Some of which i now ride regularly as it's now local to me.
Just found this picture from the Cambrian in 07.
Mrsstu doing gravel before it was a thing.😉
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stu-b/1379368187/in/dateposted/
Wow, it's nice to know we've shared some trails. Mold /Clwyds was my old stomping ground and i was lucky to be a part of NWMBA. Made some great friends and took part in a fair few XC races prior to foot and mouth in and around the local area. Even won a trophy or two 😂😂😂
I was the first aider for a few of the Dyfi events, and I recall a really hot year with a few riders who suffered.
There was a bike shop from Chester who had a stand, they were based at the cycling cafe at Ledsham by the mini dealers. Can't remember the name......
Edit... Eureka Cycles!!!!
I've got a bike shop in Liverpool if you send us some posters advertising the event I'll put them up in the shop. Ruthin isn't too far away (I'll be there riding it) and I reckon quite a few of the people who come in the shop would be up for entering but may not have heard about the event.
Edit… Eureka Cycles!!!!
Haha! A real eureka moment, were you in the bath at the time? 🤟😉
Wish it was more local, I'd be there. Maybe I need to actually try riding different locations of the uk.
Just an observation…with mapping apps sharing routes there is less mystique around great xc routes. If i can ride the route for free anytime, then why would i pay £45 to ride at an event with congested parking, waiting to be told when to start and a medal/t shirt i don’t want?
A half decent band, and more a festival vibe would help add value….
If i can ride the route for free anytime
I'm much the same. I really don't understand sportives either. All the events I've entered in the last few years have been at least partially on private trails (Boltby, Ardrock and Yorks mtb marathon)
My thoughts are that back in the day when I'd have thought of entering this my bike would have been pretty suitable - because most of us road bikes that we barely softened XC bikes. Your average FS bought for FRA was 100mm front and rear maybe. Now, even though I'm a million miles from a raving enduro rider, my bike just is not ready for this event. Of course I could still ride it at an event like this, but it's meant to be a completion and my legs alone are enough of a disadvantage without the bike relegating me to the back of the field too.
I wanted to do it, but it clashed with a BMBO weekend event in the Yorkshire Dales. They will clash again this year, so I'll have the same dilemma.
I have been doing your Welsh events for quite some time and enjoy the 'gathering' of it - I thought the Builth one last year was well busy. I missed last year's Ruthin one though, as I was away on holiday.
I also enjoyed the Dyfi Enduro before that finished - not sure what happened there but is it an option to resurrect that one?
It looks like the youngsters today gravitate more towards enduro and ebikes and not soo much on fitness.
I would agree though with enhancing your promotion and advertising.
I will try and make this years Ruthin one!
If i can ride the route for free anytime
I think that's been a small but significant part of the decline of Sportives in general.
A lot of people really value the group aspect, riding with others, the safety blanket of mechanical and medical support but there's a fair few who'd rather nick a route and do it all for "free" (not counting that they'll obviously need to buy their own food/drink etc).
Many events tried getting around that by only emailing out a .gpx to registered entrants in the week before the ride (rather than making it publicly available) but that only really works for one year - once it's up on Strava, anyone can download it.
A lot of people really value the group aspect, riding with others, the safety blanket of mechanical and medical support but there’s a fair few who’d rather nick a route and do it all for “free” (not counting that they’ll obviously need to buy their own food/drink etc).
I know this is breaking away from the thread topic and now talking about sportives but for me that group thing went from a positive appealing thing to a total turn off when organisers got greedy (or were realistic about the economics of running events) and bleated participant numbers. This happened alongside the evolution of the mamil to the point that you were sharing the roads with way too many fellow riders many of whom had not grown up in the sport and were quite frankly had terrible road craft. Dangerous to ride alongside and embarrassing to be associated with.
This happened alongside the evolution of the mamil to the point that you were sharing the roads with way too many fellow riders many of whom had not grown up in the sport and were quite frankly had terrible road craft. Dangerous to ride alongside and embarrassing to be associated with.
100% agree which I think is the other half of the coin around riding routes for free, on your own, anytime.
I think it applies to off-road events as well to a degree. There are been many threads on here over the years where people have ridden a marathon/off-road sportive etc and either complained about slow riders holding them up on descents or, the flip side, complained about riders hurtling by inches away on narrow trails.
I think a lot at beginner level get put off by the thought that everyone else is going to be super fast, on top end kit etc and so it's difficult to get new blood into the sport (that applies for road and MTB and especially for racing rather than "just riding").
and either complained about slow riders holding them up on descents or, the flip side, complained about riders hurtling by inches away on narrow trails.
But that’s about the riders not the organisers. Having experienced the MTB Marathon series it’s always been clear to me that the event can be “competitive” up front or ridden for enjoyment at your own pace. You will always get outliers, I was put in hospital at the Exmoor event a few years ago by a guy who messed about jumping on a decent and unexpectedly for me landed on me at speed, but you can’t blame the organisers for that.
Many clubs including our own (road) Easter Classic put on events where it’s quite clear that any pace is welcome to be enjoyed, but safety is paramount. IMO if you’re a flyer and start at the back, you have no right of advancement via bullying verbal or otherwise, elbows, entitlement, complaint or such forth. As a performance based cyclist you make you way past calmly and professional with care for those less capable/competitive, or make the effort to turn up earlier and sit on the front at the start.
Just came to this thread via google as I'm considering doing Ruthin this year. I have done MTB marathons on and off since around 2003. Really enjoyed them. Ruthin is the only one I haven't done. Agreed with a few comments saying the events seem to have faded a little in the social media driven era. I was looking for a YouTube video of the trail highlights but barely saw anything recent. This isn't really a criticism of the organisers but I think more about how aggressively some events are marketed.
Further comments for myself are mostly related to getting old and probably not too helpful :/
1. The group of friends that I went with gradually drifted apart and/or stopped riding entirely.
2. I moved to Sheffield and had my fill of good riding from the door. Then moved to London and had no car so logistics were more challenging. I did Minehead via train and youth hostel but it was a faff. Did Selkirk with a rental car. This applies to all mtb trips of course but it's easier to organise in certain locations.
3. I now prefer my racing shorter/faster even aside from time pressure. On the other hand, for longer rides when I have more time, I appreciate "wilder" experiences either alone or with a much smaller group.
4. Getting softer regarding weather and just thinking I'll sign up up nearer the time if it's looking dry!
Entered...
I'm so pleased to see this thread getting some interaction. I've loved these events and really want them to continue (I'm just a customer like you). I saw how passionate the volunteers were and felt I should promote them a bit
I just wanted to
(i) give this good thread a bump
and
(ii) say how good the the Hope MTB Marathon at Builth Well was yesterday (and over the weekend). Classic, tough route with some super sweet singletrack over big hills. the tops of the hills were running surprisingly well.
Sounds great, I was hoping to be there yesterday to do the short loop with my daughter (12). Would have been a great introduction to events but an ice skating/wrist issue put paid to that.
Maybe that's another angle though, get the kids in!
Will aim to get to one of the other ones.
Wonnyj I was there and agreed, a superb event, I'm still buzzing from it. The singletrack was defo a stand out feature! Very well attended by the looks of it.
Austen - defo book one, they're so friendly and work for all abilities
Similar to many on here, I didn't know they were still a thing.
Over the years I have ridden many of the Merida events then it was Scott, CRC and then Hope. I used to enjoy them, not a bad price with t shirt, pasta and well organised but not heard much of them for a number of years. Last one I rode was in April '18, first one in 2008 I think, possibly The Lakes and I am sure it was a tough 100k (unless my story has got embellished over the years)
Share the GPX file then 🙂
Just kidding. I fancied this but also wanted to do the Velo29 Sportive in Yorkshire (same day). Used to do all of the marathon events from about 2003-2008. Hopefully be at the Ruthin one.
Resurrecting this thread to say thanks to @p.rowland . A friend and I rode the Minehead event on Sunday and had a great time. Great route, very well organised. Nice to get a t-shirt at the end end too!
We had entered the full distance but missed the cut off by 30 seconds which I was actually very grateful for. Will be back fitter for next years event, may try to get to Ruthin later in the year.
Old knackered xc racer here, if I can use my ebike I’ll be at Ruthin. Done these from the Schwinn 100 days.
Great day out and often riding trails that are only accessible on the event day. 🙂
I was also at Minehead (the only singlespeeder I think...) and certainly concur with the above. The route was very well signed, and the logistics at the rugby club were great (loved not having to think about dinner/breakfast given I was camping). The course was brutal, it felt that if I wasn't climbing up some double digit % grade hacking my lungs up, I was flying down rock-strewn tracks trying to hold on but avoid arm pump, with nothing inbetween! A great exposure to North Devon riding.
Singlespeed! Seriously well done. And yes, it felt like there was no flat or even slight incline on the whole course 😀
I walked quite a lot of it - definitely overgeared! Got into the front group off the start so did the first big climb without having to stop, then dropped back and rode the rest at my own pace after the group thinned out. Ended up finishing the full marathon inside the top half.
It is a pretty relentless course - that final climb up through the woods felt like it went on forever! That descent off the top after it though was an absolute gem.
“ That descent off the top after it though was an absolute gem.”
The up side of pretty much being the lantern rouge on the 65km was that I had that descent all to myself.
i had fun but it was savage. Glad we stopped over on Sunday night.
There does seem to be a lack of focal point (forum, magazine, website, etc) for XC and marathon style event organisation. Can't recall how we used to know about them all back in the day, but like many others I had no idea the Merida events still existed...
It used to be the mags as I remember.
but maybe one of the issues in spreading the word now is social media bubbles? Where you are only telling your followers your events are on.
could STW step in with a events page? Free listings for charity events? A Fee/cross promotion for commercial events?
2024 Ruthin marathon is in 3 weeks! 15th September. Entry link above, site isn't great but it works and I'm booked on 😀
Shame this event is now cancelled
Not the announcement we wanted to be making…
We would like to thank everyone for their support but unfortunately we don’t have enough entries to cover our costs. We were hoping that the good weather over the last couple of days might encourage a few last minute entries this week but it still hasn’t been enough. So, for 2024 we have had to make the difficult decision to cancel the Exposure lights Big Night Out and the Hope MTB Marathon in Ruthin.
Please contact us for refunds and any questions by email: info@mtb-marathon.co.uk
And a massive thanks goes to all of those who have supported us over the years; Sponsors, staff and of course, our riders.
Thanks for your understanding, we will hopefully see you again next year,
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I assume not running this year 🙁 Ok the organisers had a tough year and it's a thankless task. Hopefully they'll be back.
Oakies, let's enter the national marathon champs. Oh, MayerActive's event page has disappeared and the BC cycling page is blank 🙁
UK long XC race scene died?
Yep real shame the mtb-marathons seem to have stopped. I'm still hoping they'll pop up out of the blue again.
I don't think the long xc scene has died tho, there's a brilliant series called Mills n Moors that runs a bit like Audax's do for roadies (gpx, no mass start) and that's been full every time I've done it. I'd love to find more similar events
The Mills n Moors events are bookable on sientries
Came across this by accident and its a depressing read.. did all the above events and not sure if just the fickle biking scene or it was covid and the sudden increase to insurance and put on events as plenty of the mentioned events did pull back their investment from commentary, village chill out areas, stalls, etc etc.. Had friends with families attend the events and they stopped camping, kids got older and stopped coming and soon they stopped entering too.. Minehead last year was our last and noticeably the lack of families and kids for the kids to make friends and Hope no longer doing the kids courses which were massive in their days! Live in Surrey and would happily travel to these events as the locations are stunning but 90% of mtb I see out are all e-bikes and def no focus for old school normal xc riding 🙁 the glory days of mayhem, bonty (24/12) sleepless in the saddle etc is a distant memory it feels.. I still would do them if on offer and my fitness is not what it used to be but no excuse.. Malverns classic as usual but we treat this 1 like a festival but its an expensive weekend and the racing is poor in comparison (especially xc) like an after thought on trails made days before... Please bring back the Mtb-marathons!!!
There is a strong XC scene down in the South West, mostly at Newnham Park in Plymouth.
There are a number of races, I think the marathon has already happened.
There is also a 24 hour race happening again:
I haven't entered these, but they all get a good turn out.
Great shout.. I'm def going to look into this 1 more.. sods law we fly on family holiday that weekend.. noooo..
I race at Newnham quite a lot as it's my local venue. The 'marathon' was only 3 hours but was a great fun race and a good early season kick off. I didn't race there last weekend as shorter races don't suit me, but I'm booked in for the 24hr in the summer as I did the 12hr last year and the itch needs scratching!
Many many endurance events are seeing significantly reduced numbers. Triathlons definitely down considerably vs pre-covid.
People got out of the habit, costs went up, etc. That break made people re-assess the value.
Outlaw (iron distance tri) in Notts used to sell out. Now at something like 60% full ( about 700 entries last year vs sold our 1200+ in the mid 2010s.). Their hald distance would sell out in 1-2 minutes- one year (about 2016) less than 1 minute. Now... plenty of places still available 4 weeks out. Independent races I'd entered in the Scottish Highlands cancelled due to lack of numbers - for businesses already strapped for cash after covid.
I'd been multiple times to Mayhem, and more still to Sleepless, + 24/12 the first 2 years. A combination of factors resulted in us deciding to sack it off and go out to the Alps to bike instead.
I know the hope events have stopped, but noticed this event (clywydian MTB challenge): https://www.sientries.co.uk/event.php?event_id=15433&fbclid=IwY2xjawK3qntleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHuB2y7O9vCuqpK1tonU_tUd63cfI8f8KSfq5mF3BbSGbepSDjY9-DcF37yJC_aem_YjwbfvrhIBVxGtLCXiSd-g
Not done it before but may be of interest