[Closed] Hope Making Rims…

42T rear cassette sprocket too 🙂

If nothing else, should be some spectacular anodised colour options. Bring on the 90s!

Wonder who's making the rims...

The 42T adaptor makes sense and I shall look forward to fitting it along with my Hope cranks. Is it compatible with the clever combined freehub/cassette thing they also are definitely about to make 😉

Very interesting.

Quite a few things I could go for there.

I like the look of the 35mm stem
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Hope its not a boat anchor 😉

23mm wide enduro rims are lagging a bit behind the get-wide fad.

I want that stem now!

Is it compatible with the clever combined freehub/cassette thing they also are definitely about to make

Wouldn't have thought so 😛

I like the look of the 35mm stem

Is it 35mm long or 35mm bars?

I like the look of the 35mm stem

Is it 35mm long or 35mm bars?

Or both?

Wonder who's making the rims...

wouldn't be surprised if it's Alex Rims.

wouldn't be surprised if it's Alex Rims.

They won't be light then

Is it 35mm long or 35mm bars?

Long.

42t rear sprocket sounds great, price/ availability........?

They won't be light then

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looks similar to this but i expect it will be a bespoke design

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440g - 480g 26-700c xc rim

and thats just their own branded rim, they build for a lot of people.

Not much of a Hope fan boy, but I'd be interested to hear how much the 42 tooth rear cog will be and when it'll be available.

At least the rims have some subtle graphics unlike their bars!

Is it 35mm long or 35mm bars?

Long.

Sure? That looks like a 35mm bar clamp to me.

whats with the current fad of sticking a chainring to your rear wheel ?

How long do we reckon a Hope ally freehub will last with one of those 42T sprockets on, before it tears through the spines?

How long do we reckon a Hope ally freehub will last with one of those 42T sprockets on, before it tears through the spines?

I don't have any problem running an 18T single speed on Hope hubs, so I doubt sitting and spinning on 42T is going to cause any problem. Why do you think it would?

trail_rat - Member
whats with the current fad of sticking a chainring to your rear wheel ?

When you're an auld bastid like me who canna climb hills every advantage helps. One day you will find out. 😉

whats with the current fad of sticking a chainring to your rear wheel ?

What's with the current fad of folks trying to make stuff the taiwanese, chinese mainland beat the pants off them at ?

I don't have any problem running an 18T single speed on Hope hubs, so I doubt sitting and spinning on 42T is going to cause any problem. Why do you think it would?

More torque on larger sprockets, folk desperately trying to make 1x10 work won't necessarily be spinning!

At least the rims have some subtle graphics unlike their bars!

What bars?

in my experience it's the smaller sprockets that create the damage to freehub bodies. it's not the bigger torque from larger sprockets, it's the faster accelerating smaller sprockets hitting the splines as you stomp on the pedals and the freehub pawls take time to engage.

wouldn't be surprised if it's Alex Rims.

They won't be light then

Alex "make" a lot of rims for many "brands", including Roval (specialized)

I have some rather nice Roval aluminium alloy 29'er rims on my 29'er, these weigh sub 500gm which is rather impressive considering their width (28mm) and that they have eyelets. They also take a big tire like a Purgatory and provide a secure tubeless conversion setup.

In 2 years of riding, I have yet to bend one, or crack the rim, unlike the many Stan's ZTR rims which I have used, which always eventually cracked around the spoke holes as they had no eyelets

What bars?

[url= http://www.hopetech.com/page.aspx?itemID=SPG474 ]They bought some put last year. [/url]

in my experience it's the smaller sprockets that create the damage to freehub bodies. it's not the bigger torque from larger sprockets, it's the faster accelerating smaller sprockets hitting the splines as you stomp on the pedals and the freehub pawls take time to engage

You mean the ones that aren't riveted together and thus more prone to moving independently...?

In 2 years of riding, I have yet to bend one, or crack the rim, unlike the many Stan's ZTR rims which I have used, which always eventually cracked around the spoke holes as they had no eyelets

Whilst my Roval Controle SLs were utterly wrecked after less than 2 years, flat spotted, dented, and they needed bearings about every 10 hours of use (not exaggerating), whilst I've never had a problem with Stan's rims, including their Podium rims which were far lighter than the Rovals.

The newer Rovals do seem a lot better admittedly, but I'd still rather hand build.

Have they sorted a shimano 11 speed cassette body yet?

They bought some put last year.

[url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/hope-bars ]Not exactly.[/url]

You mean the ones that aren't riveted together and thus more prone to moving independently...?

I guess so, yes. Shimano XT ones are the ones I use.

FWIW I've found my Rovals to be much softer than equivalent Stans. Probably because they divert weight into eyelets and away from the rim itself? But they're "durable" I suppose is the word, you can batter crap out of them and straighten them out and they come back for more.

Shimano XT ones are the ones I use.

Even more relevant then, as the largest sprockets are held together on a carrier - hence the recommendation to use such cassettes with alu freehubs.

They won't be light then

For comparison my first 'propper' MTB had alex rims (XC19?), when they wore out I 'upgraded' to mavic 517's (the then top end v-brake rim) and they were heavier!

My Pitch had alex rims OEM, again, considerably lighter than the Mavic's I replaced them with.

Maybe not Stans light, but then they've not got eyelets, the OEM stans with eyelets are pretty much mavic weights.

Have they sorted a shimano 11 speed cassette body yet?

Hope RS hubs are the new 11s hubs, not clear if the frehubs are compatible though, they're the new 40t ratchet ones.

Rims will be a gamble for them, perhaps not worth it TBH...

TBH I'm not expecting the N/W ring or 42t sprocke to be particularly cheap (assuming they get to market this decade), happy for them to prove me wrong though...

If they can put the sprocket on the market for a reasonable price (under ~£45?) and the N/W ring at a comparable price to RF/Works/Blackspire's before the summer they'll do well, the fanboi's will see to that...

fail to get those in shops before April and they'll have missed yet another chance...

is this the sign of a fractious relationship with Stans? or perhaps that Stans are expanding into the hub world?

That or Hope have realised they can get their own branded rims made cheaper than they buy them from Stans, and then sell them off the back of their reputation for customer service, product quality and general all round British-ness (even though they won't be made in Britain)

if shimano bring out an 11-42 (or even 40) 10speed cassette then the all these adaptors will be useless

anyone know what shimano are offering for 2014?

is this the sign of a fractious relationship with Stans? or perhaps that Stans are expanding into the hub world?

Not sure; I'd heard a rumour that Hope Hoops bought in the States are assembled by Stan's onto Hope Hubs to save shipping costs.

Thing that might affect relationship is that Stan's are selling their carbon rims only as a wheelset with their own hubs.

Hope have realised they can get their own branded rims made cheaper than they buy them from Stans

Just this I'd guess - much better margins and they get to spec the exact rims they want.

or perhaps that Stans are expanding into the hub world?

You know Stan's already do hubs, and have done for some years.

You know Stan's already do hubs, and have done for some years.

Anyone know who makes Stan's hubs, incidentally? I'd heard Novatec.

You know Stan's already do hubs, and have done for some years.

I do now 🙂

We spoke at length about this with Hope at the show.

Rims aren't to compete on price (it actually costs them more than Stans now they're bulk buying so many of those) - more to offer something even stiffer than the Flow EX. I'm likely to try a set, we'll see.

Narrow/wide ring is on the way to us (so they say) - so hopefully by the end of the week. £45 RRP. 32/34/36t to start, then 30t in a couple of weeks.

Stans rims are made by Sun, but then I don't think Sun make their own hubs do they? IIRC at least some are Novatec

Stans rims are made by Sun

Thought it was that Sun had licensed the Stan's rim profile?

Rims are made specifacally for hope by the people who make xtr rims, look really good tubeless compatable and two sizes, am and xc. Stem is 35mm long and looks pretty good. 42 cr is still a prototype and could well drop to 40 to make it work properly but it looks good. Nw chainring in 32,4 6 and there will be a 30. All looking good from hope.

ratherbeintobago - Member

Thought it was that Sun had licensed the Stan's rim profile?

As I understand it both are true- Sun make the Stans rims and licence the bst for their own wheels

Sun Rims is part of the Hayes brake company. They do Hayes, Sun Ringle, Answer, Manitou, and Wheelsmith spokes.

Jesus after reading this I'm confused with who makes what for who now 🙂

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